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Is 500mg Test E per week a cycle?

av8r2020

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Doc started me on HRT at 250 mg/wk. It felt so good I upped it to 250mg twice a week. Is this enough to require a PCT? If it is can I use Clomid and Provirone at the same time?
 
av8r2020 said:
Doc started me on HRT at 250 mg/wk. It felt so good I upped it to 250mg twice a week. Is this enough to require a PCT? yes. so u r on hrt and u decided to double the dose. r u staying on 250mg ew after u stop the 500mg ew? If it is can I use Clomid and Provirone at the same time? i wouldn't. i would use proviron during the cycle and clomid for pct possibly some hcg. why do u want to run the proviron?

see above^^^
 
av8r2020 said:
Doc started me on HRT at 250 mg/wk. It felt so good I upped it to 250mg twice a week. Is this enough to require a PCT - post cycle therapy - ? If it is can I use Clomid and Provirone at the same time?

Bro, thats a really BAD idea. 500mg/wk of Test is what you would run ON cycle. If you are running a full cycle, then fine.
But after 12 weeks you will need to taper back to 250mg/wk. If you are new to HRT, your Dr. is going to want blood work every 90 days or so. If he sees your Test above 1000, he's going to know what you are doing, and might cancell your script. At some point you are going to have to ramp down.
Use Proviron ON cycle. It helps test to bind to receptors. You should have Adex handy too. Clomid is for post cycle, but it can make you very moody.
I prefer Aromasin to Clomid.
 
av8r2020 said:
Doc started me on HRT at 250 mg/wk. It felt so good I upped it to 250mg twice a week. Is this enough to require a PCT - post cycle therapy - ? If it is can I use Clomid and Provirone at the same time?

thats a high hrt dose, what is he prescribing you?
 
Yep, you're on a cycle. Lucky you that he prescribed 250 a week. Nobody needs that much as replacement. It will also shut you down completely in a few months whereas with 100 mgs you can still produce some natural T.
 
Nelson Montana said:
Yep, you're on a cycle. Lucky you that he prescribed 250 a week. Nobody needs that much as replacement. It will also shut you down completely in a few months whereas with 100 mgs you can still produce some natural T.
My doc also gave me 250mg. I love this girl.
 
ok, where are you guys located that these doctors are STARTING you off with 250mg/wk?? Mine went from gel to 100mg/wk to 50mg/wk back to 100mg/wk

What a friggin' nightmare!!!
 
njmuscleguy said:
ok, where are you guys located that these doctors are STARTING you off with 250mg/wk?? Mine went from gel to 100mg/wk to 50mg/wk back to 100mg/wk

What a friggin' nightmare!!!
My doc is from some 3rd world country and can hardly speak English.
 
needtogetaas said:
My doc is from some 3rd world country and can hardly speak English.

i wonder if in general forgein born & trained MD's would carry this opinion in general. it seems as other countries without such harsh steroid restrictions as the US are more sympathetic and believe in the "usefullness" of their use.
 
Hmmmmm. Although HRT in this country is typically initiated at 200mg per MONTH, I've heard from many FMGs that 200 a week is not "uncommon" to treat middle-aged men having problems with their "nature" in their country of origin.
 
8and20 said:
i wonder if in general forgein born & trained MD's would carry this opinion in general. it seems as other countries without such harsh steroid restrictions as the US are more sympathetic and believe in the "usefullness" of their use.
That is what I was thinking when I went and found this women. I looked around for the most forgein name I could fined lol. I think she is Russian or some place around there.
 
needtogetaas said:
My doc is from some 3rd world country and can hardly speak English.

please tell me he has an office down here... I'm ready to switch! *grin*
 
The first doctor I went to offered 200mg per month for HRT.....then I wised up, asked around, and found someone who saw my condition differently, and therefore prescribed 200mg per week. She was VERY close to giving me 300mg per week and indicated she may up me to that dose after my 10 weeks is up. She also can prescribe Winstrol and other things too...

My advice? Find out where all the meatheads go and follow the bouncing ball...there's a reason they go there.
 
ok, anyone know of any "meathead" doctors in the NYC area? *grin*
 
halfcenturian said:
Bro, thats a really BAD idea. 500mg/wk of Test is what you would run ON cycle. If you are running a full cycle, then fine.
But after 12 weeks you will need to taper back to 250mg/wk. If you are new to HRT, your Dr. is going to want blood work every 90 days or so. If he sees your Test above 1000, he's going to know what you are doing, and might cancell your script. At some point you are going to have to ramp down.
Use Proviron ON cycle. It helps test to bind to receptors. You should have Arimidex - anastrozole - handy too. Clomid is for post cycle, but it can make you very moody.
I prefer Aromasin to Clomid.
^^^^ +1 advise right there .. 2 much test for hrt
 
slamminshaun said:
The first doctor I went to offered 200mg per month for HRT.....then I wised up, asked around, and found someone who saw my condition differently, and therefore prescribed 200mg per week. She was VERY close to giving me 300mg per week and indicated she may up me to that dose after my 10 weeks is up. She also can prescribe Winstrol and other things too...

My advice? Find out where all the meatheads go and follow the bouncing ball...there's a reason they go there.

are you talking about your local vet?

since when do doctors prescribe winny for human use?
 
xrsist said:
are you talking about your local vet?

since when do doctors prescribe Winstrol - stanozolol for human use?

Winnee is one of the few roids still (technically) available by script. It's designed to treat anemia but it's never prescribed for that. I believe W and Deka will soon be illegal since there's no legitimate medical use for them. varr and anadrol will remain for people with HIV and of course, testosterone.
 
Nelson Montana said:
Winnee is one of the few steroids still (technically) available by script. It's designed to treat anemia but it's never prescribed for that. I believe W and Deka will soon be illegal since there's no legitimate medical use for them. varr and anadrol will remain for people with HIV and of course, testosterone.

what is winny prescribed for?
 
needtogetaas said:
My doc is from some 3rd world country and can hardly speak English.


HAHAHAHA "You must spread some Karma around before giving it to needtogetaas again."
 
Nelson Montana said:
Winnee is one of the few steroids still (technically) available by script. It's designed to treat anemia but it's never prescribed for that. I believe W and Deka will soon be illegal since there's no legitimate medical use for them. varr and anadrol will remain for people with HIV and of course, testosterone.


I thought winny was used only for race horses?
 
8and20 said:
see above^^^
Thanks for the reply and the good information. Doc perscribed the clomid at 25mg daily concurrent with using 250mg T-E a week. After the first blood test he dropped the dosage to 100 mg a week. I'm doing 250mg twice a week because it makes my workouts work and I feel great, but now I guess I need to go off cycle and do a PCT.
I was thinking about the proviron because it is supposed to up the libido. If I go off the T I'm going to need some help. And yes, I have HCG, don't know whether to use it PCT or during cycle. Advise?
 
xrsist said:
thats a high hrt dose, what is he prescribing you?
That was the first scrip, it was Test-E at 250mg/ml.
After the first blood test he dropped the scrip to 100mg/ml of Test-Cyp.
As I said before, in the last 3 weeks I have upped the dose to 500mg/wk of Test-E and wondering when I should go off cycle. If I cut back to 250mg for a week, then 100mg for a week then 50mg for a week then go off completely, is that a good taper down?
 
halfcenturian said:
Bro, thats a really BAD idea. 500mg/wk of Test is what you would run ON cycle. If you are running a full cycle, then fine.
But after 12 weeks you will need to taper back to 250mg/wk. If you are new to HRT, your Dr. is going to want blood work every 90 days or so. If he sees your Test above 1000, he's going to know what you are doing, and might cancell your script. At some point you are going to have to ramp down.
Use Proviron ON cycle. It helps test to bind to receptors. You should have Arimidex - anastrozole - handy too. Clomid is for post cycle, but it can make you very moody.
I prefer Aromasin to Clomid.

Thanks, I think this is just the info I need. For the past 6 months I've been on Doctor supervised HRT at 250mg Test-E per week. 2 weeks ago I upped it to 250mg Test-E twice a week. You're saying I can do 500mg per week for 10 to 12 weeks and then drop back to 250 a week? I am not clear about dropping back to 250mg/wk for 10 to 12 weeks, or going off completely and using clomid for PCT.
At the age of 59 I'm not making any more babies, and I don't think my natural production of test is much, that's why the Doc put me on HRT. Do I need to go off cycle at all? Thanks for your advise.
 
xrsist said:
and cats and dogs.. this is what i thought..

No, winstrol is a human drug -- the only drug where the human and vet version are the same. Like I said, it's used to treat anemia from malnutrition, but who has THAT anymore? Oddly enough, Winstrolis also used to treat a hereditary condition called angioedema, which is when parts of the body become extremely swollen. (Insert cock joke here).
 
Nelson Montana said:
Yep, you're on a cycle. Lucky you that he prescribed 250 a week. Nobody needs that much as replacement. It will also shut you down completely in a few months whereas with 100 mgs you can still produce some natural T.

I wish I had that guys DR. He obviously knows nothing about prescribing hrt.
NOBODY and I mean NOBODY that is reputable prescribes that much!!!
That said that is fucking awesome. I went throught two years of monthly testing before my Endo said okay. The only thing she will prescribe is the cream (as with most DR's). 100mgs was the absolute tops she would prescribe.
Still haven't done it. Going tomorrow to see if we can start it up.
A good cycle for me these days is 250 a week,
I am 240 now. 250mgs would lean me out and throw on about ten pounds.
I would definately use hcg/clomid.
 
slat1 said:
I wish I had that guys DR. He obviously knows nothing about prescribing hrt.
NOBODY and I mean NOBODY that is reputable prescribes that much!!!
That said that is fucking awesome. I went throught two years of monthly testing before my Endo said okay. The only thing she will prescribe is the cream (as with most DR's). 100mgs was the absolute tops she would prescribe.
Still haven't done it. Going tomorrow to see if we can start it up.
A good cycle for me these days is 250 a week,
I am 240 now. 250mgs would lean me out and throw on about ten pounds.
I would definately use HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - /clomid.
Slat,
My Doc is real, has offices, nurses, diplomas on the wall, the whole thing, but yes, he is a kind of a "new age" guy. He did start me off at 250mg per week, but dropped it back to 100/wk after my first blood test.
I'm not as big as you, I'm 172 and 15% BF. So would you recommend I use 250mg T-E per week and HCG and Clomid all at the same time?
 
8and20 said:
i wonder if in general forgein born & trained MD's would carry this opinion in general. it seems as other countries without such harsh steroid restrictions as the US are more sympathetic and believe in the "usefullness" of their use.

Yes, My doc is forgein born but with a legit practice here. Was concerned more with my symptons and health than anything else. If you go to other countries it is like whats steriods meanwhile many have been on them as for recovering from surgery. My mom had major back surgery and her recovery was amazing. Actually was very active and lost a lot of fat. I asked her what was going on and she said she never felt better than when she started taking her "pill". I asked her what "pill"? She should me and it was anavar.
 
You wouldn't need to go on PCT since HRT is a "never ending cycle" anyways. You're going to be shut down regardless.

Just go back to the 250mg per week that you were on before. If you are not taking HCG already I would do so. That will keep your boys from shrinking and increase adrenal function.

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