Is 1500-2000mg test reserved only for pros?

[BigBadBill]

sides included gyno, acne (arms, back, face) bloating bad, lower back pains. the list goes on. it seems that only happned on my first cycle, i went back to the same cycle after 4 weeks off and it didnt yield the same sides. Guess I just had one bad experience.

 

[Taomaster]

I respond very well to test at 500 to 750. I tried 1000 for one month in my last cycle while I was taking EQ at 500mg and I had a bad, bad reaction - I had lower back pain/discomfort which I am almost positive was my kidneys. It was in weeks 8 - 12. I stopped my cycle and the pain went away, but took three weeks to clear.

I have three hypothesis as to the pain -

Too much test, crappy EQ (the cheapest I found in a foreign counry), or the fact that I was on vacation and not living as strictly as normal (i.e. drinking alcohol - I know it is foolish, but at least I wasn't taking any orals, and the alcohol with AS will stress the liver more than kidneys).

I believe that test should be used as a base for the other sustainable growth AS's. 500mg does the base.






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[Qrios]

I take 1500-2000 all the time. I'm not convinced it yields better results than 1,000.

Something tells me your not the smalest guy around here
Why are you on that high dose if your not convinced it does give better result? Testing?

 

[novice22]

never gone over 1gm myself. give it a shot and let us know how it goes. i would imagine some severe bloating is gonna come w/ this much test.

 

[MrTechno]

Ok diet is good, training is good, strength gains are enormous when on cycle, sides are minimal. I am going for my 4th cycle now, problem is I'm what is called a non-respondant. That's right one in a million that does not seem to react to gear in terms of size (Although strength). It ain't nutrition either, cause when I up the cals (good cals) I always end ip just being fat (going from 10 to 17% on my second cycle with not much muscular gains).

I've read in the literature there are some relatively rare cases of non-respondants, I think I read it also on t-Mag where people who didn't respond to gear though they were fake although they were actually real. My gear is real , bought through a super verified by 3 mods source as being legit.

Anyway, is 750mg-1000mg test does me nothing (except some back acne) Can I jump to try just how my body would react to say: 2000mg test a week for about a month? say along with 1000mg eq ? Or is it just dangerous for small frames guys with only 4 cycles under their belt ?

You need to look at your diet because food makes you fat not the drugs...............

You mention that you up the calories but good calories, well that alone to me does not sound good at all because your diet should be the same either using AS or not...............

Protein builds muscle, carbs will suplly you with the energy necessery to train with intensity without breaking down the existing muscle, but to many unacessary carbs will make you fat................

2000mg of test a week is not only for a freak because a freak will only maintain muscle mass with that...........

I will give you a class 1 cycle example of a good cycle for someone that has been training for 1 year or more ......................

6iu's of GH ed for 90 days
250mg of sustenon ed for 90 days
100mg od deca ed for 90 days
50mg of anadrol ed for 6 weeks
60mg ed of dbol ed for 6 weeks

You start to do things in that manner with the proper diet and training, rest and you will be doing very well ................

 

[OXANDRIN]

I take 1500-2000 all the time. I'm not convinced it yields better results than 1,000.

lol......and i'm convinced 2 is a bigger number than 1

 

[satchboogie]

the way i see it... if you dont grow on a gram a week the something is serioulsy warped on your chain.

 

[jc21]

2 grams a test only reserved for the pros? dude some of them take a gram a day. I have used 2 grams of test a week and had great results with very little sides. just depends on the person.

 

[BMF]

Bro before you look to a shitload more gear as the answer look at your training. Most everyone can figure out how to shove enough food down to grow on a bulking cycle, but training in a way that allows solid muscular gains is trickier. If you are willing to put 2+ grams of test in your ass then trust me and run a stack like 1-2 grams test a week for 16 weeks with 5 ius of growth every day then throw in the post workout insulin w/ creatine...YOU WILL PUT ON SIZE-it would be healthier than running ungodly amounts of aas by themselves especially since you say you are a "small framed" guy...and that is my 2cc's

yeah, i'm like you too.....put on fat before muscle. yes i put on 60% or better up top and in the legs....but the other 40% goes right to the lower abs. then you go to drop the ab fat and you drop much of the muscle gained. sucks. but i found that the above protocol is working wonders for me. slin(post w/o 8iu)/GH(2iu ED)/Test&EQ at a gram total and also fina/winny at alternating times. in addition using clen/T3 to hopefully help with the partitioning away from ab fat gain (eating plenty though, 350 grams protein and pretty much every 2-3 hours). cut back my training to each bodypart once a week, 4 days on 3 days off. helped too.

 

[duff_rose]

it's reserved to anyone mad enough to do this...

Exactly! I would not personally do this but I value my health.