Irish, Scottish, German, English are basically Caucasion.

[biteme]

Discuss. Are all Caucasions really the same? This is a spinoff of Mexicans are pretty much Indians. Italians are not caucasions btw. They are a mix of white and some dark colored race.

 

[Devastation]

anti-dentite!

 

[swole]

Discuss. Are all Caucasions really the same? This is a spinoff of Mexicans are pretty much Indians. Italians are not caucasions btw. They are a mix of white and some dark colored race.

I had this discussion at work with coworkers of many races and we came to the same conclusion.

There are a few other pure "white" races though...Polish, British, blah.

 

[Devastation]

I had this discussion at work with coworkers of many races and we came to the same conclusion.

There are a few other pure "white" races though...Polish, British, blah.

bohemian

 

[biteme]

I had this discussion at work with coworkers of many races and we came to the same conclusion.

There are a few other pure "white" races though...Polish, British, blah.

Yeah, but they're all the same. The started out in one place and migrated to different places.

 

[Daisy_]

I have a bit of german in me, english in me, and Irish in me. I guess I have a little bit of Italian in me to now. HAHA kidding, but really I guess I am REALLY WHITE Then.

 

[biteme]

I have a bit of german in me, english in me, and Irish in me. I guess I have a little bit of Italian in me to now. HAHA kidding, but really I guess I am REALLY WHITE Then.

German, English, Irish......... one in the same. Might as well say white. It's like a black man saying he's from the zulu tribe instead of the swahili tribe. White is white, black is black. etc

 

[Daisy_]

German, English, Irish......... one in the same. Might as well say white. It's like a black man saying he's from the zulu tribe instead of the swahili tribe. White is white, black is black. etc

mmmkay, I have roots from thoughs places. I know I am white. Atleast last time I checked I was.

 

[swole]

German, English, Irish......... one in the same. Might as well say white. It's like a black man saying he's from the zulu tribe instead of the swahili tribe. White is white, black is black. etc

while this is true, there is quite a difference between "black" people from africa and jamaica

holy shit this thread has potential to get ugly

i'm out

where's nycgirl? i would like to hear her opinion on this matter

 

[blut wump]

Don't forget the antipodeans.

 

[Devastation]

i hate dead people

 

[swole]

i hate dead people

lazy, good for nothin swindlers

ALIVE POWER!!!

 

[Devastation]

lazy, good for nothin swindlers

ALIVE POWER!!!

the living shall crush the filthy dead race.

 

[hotzie]

I have a bit of german in me, english in me, and Irish in me. I guess I have a little bit of Italian in me to now. HAHA kidding, but really I guess I am REALLY WHITE Then.

you want some hotzie in you

 

[nycgirl]

German, English, Irish......... one in the same. Might as well say white. It's like a black man saying he's from the zulu tribe instead of the swahili tribe. White is white, black is black. etc

You know what, I had a LONG response to this. But, I decided, I will just simply say this . . . We are not the same.

 

[Daisy_]

you want some hotzie in you

Thanks, altleast someone got my joke.

 

[hotzie]

Thanks, altleast someone got my joke.

 

[blut wump]

Dead people: can't live with them, can't kill them.

 

[Testosterone boy]

Germans tend to be cold and precise. They make excellent scientists and soldiers.

French make beautiful designs, some of them actually work.

I'd say there is significant difference. Travel through the countries, feel the culture....you will see.

Loads of difference between the various Asian cultures...even more so.

 

[H_T_]

um, if you don't have blue eyes, y'all ain't white.

 

[biteme]

I don't think anyone really knows. Did mankind start off as 2 people and spread throughout the globe? In recent history, the causasion race was settled in Northern Europe. Over hundreds of years, people spread out and created subraces. Like the pygmy tribe in Africa. What probably happened was 2 very short black people went off and bred and their offspring bred and so forth and so on until a breed of short black people were created. Dogs are bred in much the same way and we are animals.

 

[hotzie]

um, if you don't have blue eyes, y'all ain't white.

i have hazel , whats that make me

 

[biteme]

i have hazel , whats that make me

A mutt. Definitely not a pure bred.

 

[biteme]

We know that any human can breed with any other human. Do you think it's possible for a human to breed with an ape?

 

[Testosterone boy]

We know that any human can breed with any other human. Do you think it's possible for a human to breed with an ape?

Yea....how else did Shaq get so big and strong?


j/k...I love Shaq

 

[Mr. dB]

We know that any human can breed with any other human. Do you think it's possible for a human to breed with an ape?

We don't have the same number of chromosomes.

 

[Mr. dB]

I don't think anyone really knows. Did mankind start off as 2 people and spread throughout the globe? In recent history, the causasion race was settled in Northern Europe. Over hundreds of years, people spread out and created subraces. Like the pygmy tribe in Africa. What probably happened was 2 very short black people went off and bred and their offspring bred and so forth and so on until a breed of short black people were created. Dogs are bred in much the same way and we are animals.

I can see you've put a lot of thought into this.

 

[SoreArms]

Italy, Spain, Portugal and France have a lot of mediterranian/moor mixed in

 

[Mr. dB]

Italy, Spain, Portugal and France have a lot of mediterranian/moor mixed in

Adjacent populations always mix. Humans just cant resist fucking. It's called "gene flow".

 

[Hengst]

i can't believe the level of ignorance on this thread.......

1. Italians are caucasian
2. Caucasian refers to forensic differences, e.g. skeletal remains. There are 3 basic groups - Caucasian, Negroid, Oriental. and before any one jumps on me with the crappy we are all the same ...... there ARE physical, genetic differences between the groups. (ever wonder how science can determine if human remains are from a black, white or asian person when there is no soft tissue left behind?)
3. Arabs are considered caucasian as are Indians (India indians). American Indians are considered Oriental.
4. All white people are causcasians but not all caucasians are white.
5. As Mr DP points out adjacent populations mix so the boundries between these three groups is blurry where these groups meet. E.g. Central Asians are a mix of Oriental and Caucasian
6. The Human Being is a species, when people refer to 'race' thay are actually making reference to SUB-SPECIES. Caucasian, Negroid and Oriental are all sub-species of the human species. E.g. The CANINE is a species but the wolf, dingo and domestic dog are sub-species.

 

[HiDnGoD]

i can't believe the level of ignorance on this thread.......

1. Italians are caucasian
2. Caucasian refers to forensic differences, e.g. skeletal remains. There are 3 basic groups - Caucasian, Negroid, Oriental. and before any one jumps on me with the crappy we are all the same ...... there ARE physical, genetic differences between the groups. (ever wonder how science can determine if human remains are from a black, white or asian person when there is no soft tissue left behind?)
3. Arabs are considered caucasian as are Indians (India indians). American Indians are considered Oriental.
4. All white people are causcasians but not all caucasians are white.
5. As Mr DP points out adjacent populations mix so the boundries between these three groups is blurry where these groups meet. E.g. Central Asians are a mix of Oriental and Caucasian
6. The Human Being is a species, when people refer to 'race' thay are actually making reference to SUB-SPECIES. Caucasian, Negroid and Oriental are all sub-species of the human species. E.g. The CANINE is a species but the wolf, dingo and domestic dog are sub-species.

There you have it folks. A definitive answer. Thread killer!

j/k

 

[BUBBLES]

Irish, Scottish, German, English, Italians,French, Bulgarians, some Russians, Romanians, Former Yugoslavians are all caucasian not considering the minorities in those countries who migrated there a long time ago.

 

[Shadeofpink]

White babies are born with blue eyes. I found that one out thru my doctor!

 

[BUBBLES]

White babies are born with blue eyes. I found that one out thru my doctor!

I heard that too.

 

[Smurfy]

Discuss. Are all Caucasions really the same? This is a spinoff of Mexicans are pretty much Indians. Italians are not caucasions btw. They are a mix of white and some dark colored race.

Why does it matter>? Who cares. I dont see the need to categorize.

 

[Mr. dB]

White babies are born with blue eyes. I found that one out thru my doctor!

Cats are born with blue eyes too. They take on their adult color (usually yellow) after a few weeks.

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

Why does it matter>? Who cares. I dont see the need to categorize.

We need to find out what the supreme race is.

 

[foreigngirl]

Irish, Scottish, German, English, Italians,French, Bulgarians, some Russians, Romanians, Former Yugoslavians are all caucasian not considering the minorities in those countries who migrated there a long time ago.

yes, but we are not all the same. Different tribes made different cultural values, different traditions and different languages through the time.

 

[biteme]

Why does it matter>? Who cares. I dont see the need to categorize.

Because it's fascinating to me. I'm not trying to rate the races. I just want to know how things came to be.

 

[milo hobgoblin]

if anyone says they cant see differences in races and the way the act, live, perform and yes even in how intelligent they are .. they are lying or brainwashed.

 

[musclemom]

i can't believe the level of ignorance on this thread.......

1. Italians are caucasian
2. Caucasian refers to forensic differences, e.g. skeletal remains. There are 3 basic groups - Caucasian, Negroid, Oriental. and before any one jumps on me with the crappy we are all the same ...... there ARE physical, genetic differences between the groups. (ever wonder how science can determine if human remains are from a black, white or asian person when there is no soft tissue left behind?)
3. Arabs are considered caucasian as are Indians (India indians). American Indians are considered Oriental.
4. All white people are causcasians but not all caucasians are white.
5. As Mr DP points out adjacent populations mix so the boundries between these three groups is blurry where these groups meet. E.g. Central Asians are a mix of Oriental and Caucasian
6. The Human Being is a species, when people refer to 'race' thay are actually making reference to SUB-SPECIES. Caucasian, Negroid and Oriental are all sub-species of the human species. E.g. The CANINE is a species but the wolf, dingo and domestic dog are sub-species.

K for an intriguing post.

I do have a question about where Latino falls in here, the reason I ask is that you specifically mentioned American Indians, my father in law was pure Mohawk and needed a kidney transplant, he was actually on dialysis for 6 years because the genetic match was so difficult. His kidney eventually came from a Latino man from Texas. Now this is interesting, to me, on a purely (and admittedly, on my behalf, quite uneducated) academic level because Iroquois Indians have always been EASTERN woodland Indians (in fact his tribe is Canadian). I can't believe that a genetic match is a fluke ...

 

[DJ_UFO]

K for an intriguing post.

I do have a question about where Latino falls in here, the reason I ask is that you specifically mentioned American Indians, my father in law was pure Mohawk and needed a kidney transplant, he was actually on dialysis for 6 years because the genetic match was so difficult. His kidney eventually came from a Latino man from Texas. Now this is interesting, to me, on a purely (and admittedly, on my behalf, quite uneducated) academic level because Iroquois Indians have always been EASTERN woodland Indians (in fact his tribe is Canadian). I can't believe that a genetic match is a fluke ...

Well, we have to start from the base the "latino" has nothing to do with race. Not even with ethnic groups. Latin countries, are those whose languages comes from the latin. For example, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese. But why south americans, central americans, mexico and some caribbean countries adopted the word "latino"? because originally all these countries were called Latin America because of their language. Spanish and Portuguese in Brazil.

As you see, you can have a white latino and a black latino; today, bad used, latino identify an ethnic group, not a race. South America has the same mixes as North America, just in a higher degree. Whites (considering Spaniards as white), Blacks, Native Indians. The great majority is "mestizo (mix between Spaniard and Native Indian). I'd say the second group is "mulato" (mix between Spaniard and Black) Then you have pure Whites, pure Blacks, "Zambos" (mix between Black and Native Indian), and pure Native Indians.

 

[musclemom]

Well, we have to start from the base the "latino" has nothing to do with race. Not even with ethnic groups. Latin countries, are those whose languages comes from the latin. For example, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese. But why south americans, central americans, mexico and some caribbean countries adopted the word "latino"? because originally all these countries were called Latin America because of their language. Spanish and Portuguese in Brazil.

As you see, you can have a white latino and a black latino; today, bad used, latino identify an ethnic group, not a race. South America has the same mixes as North America, just in a higher degree. Whites (considering Spaniards as white), Blacks, Native Indians. The great majority is "mestizo (mix between Spaniard and Native Indian). I'd say the second group is "mulato" (mix between Spaniard and Black) Then you have pure Whites, pure Blacks, "Zambos" (mix between Black and Native Indian), and pure Native Indians.

I see where you're coming from, intriguing, the difference between race and etnicity when it's so interwoven culturally ...

Since transplant information is pretty hush-hush I've told you all I know. My GUESS is the donor was probably what you termed a "mestizo." It's amazing how blended people can become very quickly. I chased back my heritage to the early 1800s and realized what a Heinz I was ...

 

[biteme]

I wanna mate with an african pygmy woman.

 

[Hiatussin]

I´m not sure if europeans and pygmys can actually reproduce. I think they can. I bet the result would look kinda indian.

There´s more gene code difference between africans and europeans, than there is between humans and chimpansees. the reason black and white people are more alike than chimps are with either is determined by gene expression patterns and alternative RNA splicing.

 

[KA-BAR]

Interesting thread. I am 1/2 Irish and 1/2 Italian. What a combo. Someday we will all be yellow.

 

[javaguru]

I had this discussion at work with coworkers of many races and we came to the same conclusion.

There are a few other pure "white" races though...Polish, British, blah.

Some would disagree about anyone of Eastern European descent being "pure" since the Huns were steppe people and dominated the region long enough to "taint" their blood, whatever that means.

 

[javaguru]

BTW, for the record, I'm of Prussian German descent and there is a difference....

 

[mitto]

um, if you don't have blue eyes, y'all ain't white.

and blonde hair i take it then?? i wud have thought caucasian covers anyone who isnt black, asian, or hispanic??

 

[javaguru]

and blonde hair i take it then?? i wud have thought caucasian covers anyone who isnt black, asian, or hispanic??

"Mixed blood" is what comes into play....how pure is your blood to be considered caucasian. Personally, we're all human and we should just accept it....Race is an illusion..

 

[Y_lifter]

I bet Italians are damn glad they aren't Caucasions..

 

[Mr. dB]

I´m not sure if europeans and pygmys can actually reproduce.

Of course they can. We're not separate species.

 

[Hiatussin]

BTW, for the record, I'm of Prussian German descent and there is a difference....

These days when you call yourself "prussian" it mostly means you´re nobility.

(since usually only nobility is so concerned with their ancestry that they know they are from old prussia, rather than just germany)

 

[Hiatussin]

Of course they can. We're not separate species.

I would think so too. but its not that obvious.

 

[javaguru]

These days when you call yourself "prussian" it mostly means you´re nobility.

(since usually only nobility is so concerned with their ancestry that they know they are from old prussia, rather than just germany)

Most would never understand the cultural/language differences in a region about as large as the State of Ohio. I was mostly considering it a reference to a geographic region and I'm certainly not nobility since I'm American. It's like the pride certain people have in the US about where they come from, like Texas. We did have a Von before our family name was anglitized. My grandfather immigrated from Brandenburg after WWI, he was a career officer. I don't speak German but can understand some basic German but dialects from other regions are practically incomprehensible to me, Bavarian for example.

 

[BrothaBill]

there is some fascinating information on indoeuropean tribes and the spread of language as well. too complex too discuss here but I found it fascinating awhile back and different tribes

 

[ben hart]

Half African, half Irish here. I've been told by people that I'm African/American, but my dad was born in, and lives in Africa. He was never a U.S. citizen. He came over on a college visa, tapped my mom, and went back. My mom has red hair and green eyes and is from Cali. Does African/American apply? My mom's parents are from Ireland. The majority of people looking at me think I'm Puerto Rican.

 

[javaguru]

Half African, half Irish here. I've been told by people that I'm African/American, but my dad was born in, and lives in Africa. He was never a U.S. citizen. He came over on a college visa, tapped my mom, and went back. My mom has red hair and green eyes and is from Cali. Does African/American apply? My mom's parents are from Ireland. The majority of people looking at me think I'm Puerto Rican.

You're American....no need for adding your cultural heritage to the title but if you want one then African American does apply. You won't see me claiming to be German American, unless it gets me laid, I'm just American.

 

[ben hart]

Right on! USA-USA-USA...ha-ha.

 

[DJ_UFO]

Half African, half Irish here. I've been told by people that I'm African/American, but my dad was born in, and lives in Africa. He was never a U.S. citizen. He came over on a college visa, tapped my mom, and went back. My mom has red hair and green eyes and is from Cali. Does African/American apply? My mom's parents are from Ireland. The majority of people looking at me think I'm Puerto Rican.

Bro you're an American. There's nothing wrong with your color or your racial background. You have to be proud of them. What makes you good or bad, is your way of thinking; the use of logic, common sense, critical thinking. That's all.

 

[DJ_UFO]

and blonde hair i take it then?? i wud have thought caucasian covers anyone who isnt black, asian, or hispanic??

what do you mean by "hispanic"? I understand when you say black or asian but hispanic is not a race. "hispanic" would be somebody with some degree of Spaniard ancestors but that could be 1/4, 1/2. 1/8, etc...and the rest of the mix could be any other race.

 

[foreigngirl]

Bro you're an American. There's nothing wrong with your color or your racial background. You have to be proud of them. What makes you good or bad, is your way of thinking; the use of logic, common sense, critical thinking. That's all.

I hope you dont relate that only to americans

 

[ben hart]

Bro you're an American. There's nothing wrong with your color or your racial background. You have to be proud of them. What makes you good or bad, is your way of thinking; the use of logic, common sense, critical thinking. That's all.

Thanks. I think my mom raised me right. I've lived a good life and am respected in my business and social circles. Being humble and repectful goes a long way.

 

[DJ_UFO]

I hope you dont relate that only to americans

no girl that's for anyone around the globe. Way of thinking is the key. Values, culture, level of education. You can't judge somebody by his color or racial background. Look at Colin Powell, Condoleeza Rice, maybe you don't like them for their political position but they are brilliant anyways.

 

[HiDnGoD]

there is some fascinating information on indoeuropean tribes and the spread of language as well. too complex too discuss here but I found it fascinating awhile back and different tribes

National Geographic has had some good articles on this, tracing genetics links back to prehistoric times. Neandertal, H.S. Afarensis(sp), etc.
I have no preconceived notions that one race, or ethnicity, is better than another. But I am fascinated by the way humanity has spread out around the globe, developed distinct genetic traits, then intermingled again. There has been some success at tracing movements by language too.
I love the fact that we, as a species, are all one, but I wish we could accept our differences without assigning rank, or legitimacy.

 

[javaguru]

These days when you call yourself "prussian" it mostly means you´re nobility.

(since usually only nobility is so concerned with their ancestry that they know they are from old prussia, rather than just germany)

Historically, even the foes of Germany have noted the difference. Prussians were considered the worst to face, much like Highlander units for the English. The English noted the Prussians were the most determined units and the Saxons would proclaim," We don't want to shoot you anymore than you want to shoot me." Perhaps the fact my grandfather came from this period and shaped my view is part of how I see it.

 

[foreigngirl]

Historically, even the foes of Germany have noted the difference. Prussians were considered the worst to face, much like Highlander units for the English. The English noted the Prussians were the most determined units and the Saxons would proclaim," We don't want to shoot you anymore than you want to shoot me." Perhaps the fact my grandfather came from this period and shaped my view is part of how I see it.

who are todays Prussians, Saxons, Druids, Huns?

 

[javaguru]

who are todays Prussians, Saxons, Druids, Huns?

Greeks and Macedonians...aren't they the same? Get my point?

 

[foreigngirl]

Greeks and Macedonians...aren't they the same? Get my point?

yes, I know what you are talking about and I totally agree - not all of them are the same. I was honestly curious as who are these people today.

 

[needtogetaas]

who are todays Prussians, Saxons, Druids, Huns?

90% of irish people are from englosaxon decent.pade 50 bucks to find out i was.lol

 

[foreigngirl]

90% of irish people are from englosaxon decent.pade 50 bucks to find out i was.lol

damn, I thought Irish people are mostly celtic.

 

[needtogetaas]

damn, I thought Irish people are mostly celtic.

nop they would like to think so but the englosaxsins and there culter sweeped through allmost all of irland a long time before the celtics.celtic cultchers just became more apeling so evry one switched.fact is even the cults are of englosaxsin desant.

 

[needtogetaas]

nop they would like to think so but the englosaxsins and there culter sweeped through allmost all of irland a long time before the celtics.celtic cultchers just became more apeling so evry one switched.fact is even the celts are of englosaxsin desant.

but ya now mostly celtic culter and beleaves.

 

[foreigngirl]

nop they would like to think so but the englosaxsins and there culter sweeped through allmost all of irland a long time before the celtics.celtic cultchers just became more apeling so evry one switched.fact is even the cults are of englosaxsin desant.

wow, I never new that. Thanks needto

 

[javaguru]

who are todays Prussians, Saxons, Druids, Huns?

I can only comment on my granfather's staunch adherence to duty and honor. To him, being Prussioan meant sacrifice and duty( He was an officer in the army). I think those two traits that he instilled made me who I am today and I appreciate those traits in others. Today, I have no idea what they mean in modern Germany, I'm not capable of conversational German,but I have a basic understanding of baltic dialects but can't understand a Bavarian to save my life. For a country the size of my state there is a lot of differences. The current "Germany" used to be composed of over 300 seperate principalities.

 

[needtogetaas]

I can only comment on my granfather's staunch adherence to duty and honor. To him, being Prussioan meant sacrifice and duty( He was an officer in the army). I think those two traits that he instilled made me who I am today and I appreciate those traits in others. Today, I have no idea what they mean in modern Germany, I'm not capable of conversational German,but I have a basic understanding of baltic dialects but can't understand a Bavarian to save my life. For a country the size of my state there is a lot of differences. The current "Germany" used to be composed of over 300 seperate principalities.

I spent a totle of lets say 8 months in germany.out of that I spent six weeks of vacatoin time to see the cuntry.out of the 8 months I was there 7 months it was ether raining or snowing or so foggy i couldent see my hand in frunt of my face.but in the mist of it all I saw a once butiful cuntry that had bin disroid by centerys of war.butiful castels hafe blown to bits.struchers of grate wonder barly standing.I felt sad and depraesed allmost the hole time i was there.but evry once in a wile the sun would shine,and i would be on the highest point of a monten on top of a castle and I would could see for miles.miles of a once grate cuntry that is no more.

 

[foreigngirl]

I can only comment on my granfather's staunch adherence to duty and honor. To him, being Prussioan meant sacrifice and duty( He was an officer in the army). I think those two traits that he instilled made me who I am today and I appreciate those traits in others. Today, I have no idea what they mean in modern Germany, I'm not capable of conversational German,but I have a basic understanding of baltic dialects but can't understand a Bavarian to save my life. For a country the size of my state there is a lot of differences. The current "Germany" used to be composed of over 300 seperate principalities.

man, I have forgotten almost every single one of those old tribes. Its been long time since 5th grade

Well, you guys are lucky that most if not all of history is not so close interweaved with your surrounding neighbours.

So, Bavarians and Prussinas are in Germany now; anglo-saxons and celtics in Britain and Ireland. Normans are in Britain too?

 

[Mr. dB]

man, I have forgotten almost every single one of those old tribes. Its been long time since 5th grade

Well, you guys are lucky that most if not all of history is not so close interweaved with your surrounding neighbours.

So, Bavarians and Prussinas are in Germany now; anglo-saxons and celtics in Britain and Ireland. Normans are in Britain too?

Don't forget that Ireland was invaded by the Vikings, and there are place names and surnames there that derive from Viking words. Scotland too.

 

[Hengst]

Basically the peoples of the whole North Sea basin have mixed, conqured, and invaded each other for thousands of years.
Normandie in france is named after the Norsemen (Vikings) who settled there. English men are called anglo-saxons and there is still a province in Germany called Saxony.