IP is retiring!! Read this quote, this sucks!

[Balistic]

Looks like he has finally come out and said it himself.

Here's a link to the Triedia board where he made the post after too many people pissed him off bashing his gear. F%$kin @holes!

And for those of you who don't want to bother using the link... here's a brief excerpt of what he said:

"i nolonger produce anything and once remaining stock gone you will pay more elswhere"

Whether he is bluffing I don't know



[url]http://www.triedia.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8859[/URL]

 

[muscle_geek]

I could be wrong, but the way I read this was that he was pissed off and was saying that once he stops producing the stuff everyone is going to be paying more and just see how you like that. It didn't sound like an official retirement, but then again I could be wrong.

 

[Balistic]

I wish you were right bro...

I think when he used the word "elsewhere" he meant he's packin it in... plus you can tell by his tone that he means he's callin it quits...

I'd be pissed off too with all the bullshit people talk about him, I'd probably call it quits after a while too, I mean how much of this bullshit can he put up with?

 

[manny78]

Big Deal.

 

[Balistic]

You're right Manny!

You're right... although I would have put it as "No more deals".

I guess we're all not as rich as you.

 

[Willyumyum]

Here's a link to the Triedia board where he made the post after too many people pissed him off bashing his gear. F%$kin @holes!

I say good... He is an asshole and a shitty businessman... I DOUBT that is his reason for quitting though... If I had to take a guess it has something more to do with every single person on this board, and their mother, knowing about him... And other things like that...

I wouldn't say people bashing his gear are assholes - hell I'm one of them... I have the right to say what I want when I think something is sub-par in quality, and that's what I feel his stuff is... Spotty in quallity from batch to batch, and not to mention many people get either no results from them or are saying "Why is there a pubic hair in my gear?" I'd rather pay the money for gear I know is of pharmeceutical quality, personally..

YUM

 

[manny78]

Re: You're right Manny!

You're right... although I would have put it as "No more deals".

I guess we're all not as rich as you.

I have the right to bash him cause unlike many people on this board I actually used many times is stuff. He's attitude sucks, just like his customer service. SOme of his products were a good deal (viagra, anavar before, winny). For the rest I can get human grade stuff made in a certified lab for just some penny more. But at least I know what I get. I used to be a cheap asshole and buy anything around. Now I save my money and go for quality product.

 

[Willyumyum]

Re: Re: You're right Manny!

I have the right to bash him cause unless many people on this board I actually used many times is stuff. He's attitude sucks, just like his customer service. SOme of his products were a good deal (viagra, anavar before, winny). For the rest I can get human grade stuff made in a certified lab for just some penny more. But at least I know what I get. I used to be a cheap asshole and buy anything around. Now I save my money and go for quality product.

couldn't have said it better myself, although I've made it a point never to be cheap when it comes to buying, and using, my gear....

YUM

 

[Hugh Gellatts]

I stood by this guy because the products I bought almost a year ago were legit, especially the oil based suspension. The latest stuff that I got from a remailer was not good though. So as far as I'm concerned he has lost my business already.

 

[Enigmaxxx7]

I think he may have been undermined by some of his remailers selling bunk to make better profit. We all know there are fakes everywhere. I'm not pro** or anti **. I work in the business world everyday and all I know is that competition is good for everyone. This is just one more option gone out the window. If you use ** or not, get ready for your gear cost to increase in the near future.

 

[Hugh Gellatts]

yeah, the remailing was shady. all my tabs were white, and the inj eq did not sting at all like it was supposed too (I did not know it was bunk because I was stacking it with test at first). Also the batch of clen I got seemed to have much more ketotifen in them than clen. I actually would take the tabs and take a nap, they made me so damn sleepy.

 

[DaMan]

Curious, what remailer are y'all talking about? (Obviously blank out half the name with '*'s ).

Thx.

 

[Enigmaxxx7]

Hugh, do you know for sure that your EQ was bunk or are you assuming it because it didnt sting? I am curious because I have some of the older one and some new one. I didnt break the seal on either yet.

P.S. Did you draw up the EQ with the test or just EQ in the pin?

 

[JC Grifter]

I totally agree with manny and willy...... also if you guys cant afford "quality" gear.. then just be paiteint and save up.. it will be worth it

 

[Hugh Gellatts]

"Hugh, do you know for sure that your EQ was bunk or are you assuming it because it didnt sting? I am curious because I have some of the older one and some new one. I didnt break the seal on either yet.

P.S. Did you draw up the EQ with the test or just EQ in the pin?"

the test i was using was some of his old oil-based suspension, and I mixed it in the pin with the eq. I had put a painkiller additive in the test, so figured the lack of sting was bec of this. I saw very good gains the first 3 weeks because of the daily test shots...once i stopped the test though it felt like i was just training natural. Being that the eq was frontloaded at 3600 mgs the first week, and then dropped to 1250 a week, I'd have figured it would be doing something. To get any results I had to up his d-bol dosage to over 50mg a day, which makes no sense since I have grown off 10mg of real d-bol a day. There was something in the pills, but for all I know the remailer had sent me the 5mg methyletest tabs.

I gave up on that stuff and started tren at a cc a day 5 days ago, and am already up 8 lbs. this fast response is what i'd get if i was starting from being clean, not from when supposedly using 1500mg of gear a week, LOL.

 

[Nimrod25]

The day IP quits, will be known as the greatest day in the history of AS. His products are crap, and anyone with even the slightest knowledge of gear would not go near his shit. He preys on uninformed newbies, who have little money and have no business doing gear at all. I hope you all realize that his anavar tested at 4mg per pill, thats less than half of what he claims, sounds like a conspiracy of Triple Threat proportions. Good Riddance IP.

 

[Willyumyum]

The day IP quits, will be known as the greatest day in the history of AS. His products are crap, and anyone with even the slightest knowledge of gear would not go near his shit. He preys on uninformed newbies, who have little money and have no business doing gear at all. I hope you all realize that his anavar tested at 4mg per pill, thats less than half of what he claims, sounds like a conspiracy of Triple Threat proportions. Good Riddance IP.

YUM

 

[da big thinker]

Re: Re: IP is retiring!! Read this quote, this sucks!

I say good... He is an asshole and a shitty businessman... I DOUBT that is his reason for quitting though... If I had to take a guess it has something more to do with every single person on this board, and their mother, knowing about him... And other things like that...

I wouldn't say people bashing his gear are assholes - hell I'm one of them... I have the right to say what I want when I think something is sub-par in quality, and that's what I feel his stuff is... Spotty in quallity from batch to batch, and not to mention many people get either no results from them or are saying "Why is there a pubic hair in my gear?" I'd rather pay the money for gear I know is of pharmeceutical quality, personally..

YUM

i understand what you are saying...but i think that brovel,ttokkyo and few others are sub-par quality based on my experiences...you don't see me bashing them every chance i get...it just seems that the ** bashing is constant and annoying...usually as slopain puts it... when you're at the top of the game,you're bound to get bashed by competitors...true dat!

 

[NY Muscle]

once i stopped the test though it felt like i was just training natural. Being that the eq was frontloaded at 3600 mgs the first week, and then dropped to 1250 a week, I'd have figured it would be doing something.

3600mg???????????????????????????///

my God

what do u weigh? 345?

 

[NY Muscle]

i only tryed his viagra and it was EXTREMELY GOOD would assume the rest of his gear would be of similar quality/strength

who knows..

 

[Anigo]

I was always satisfied with his products =/

 

[manny78]

The day IP quits, will be known as the greatest day in the history of AS. His products are crap, and anyone with even the slightest knowledge of gear would not go near his shit. He preys on uninformed newbies, who have little money and have no business doing gear at all. I hope you all realize that his anavar tested at 4mg per pill, thats less than half of what he claims, sounds like a conspiracy of Triple Threat proportions. Good Riddance IP.

Amen. Plus remember: the anavar batch (which was mine BTW) that was tested came directly from IP. Not a remailer.

 

[3Vandoo]

You will pay more elsewhere!!!!!1

LMFBFAO!!!!!!

I pay the same or cheaper for real european gears.

I think the guy has a big inflated balloon for head, btw did he told you about new chinese laws about restricted products that he selling????????

 

[da big thinker]

The day IP quits, will be known as the greatest day in the history of AS. His products are crap, and anyone with even the slightest knowledge of gear would not go near his shit. He preys on uninformed newbies, who have little money and have no business doing gear at all. I hope you all realize that his anavar tested at 4mg per pill, thats less than half of what he claims, sounds like a conspiracy of Triple Threat proportions. Good Riddance IP.

Nimrod...why such frustrations,bro?i have used ** gear and his products are great thus far...you're post sounds ignorant...i was expecting better back up than his prods are "crap" from an individual like yourself...as for his anavar testing in at 4mg...where did you get the var...from him or from a remailer...?i also heard it's made up of sugar from a member of this board...funny,cause when i used it,it didn't taste sweet and in addition,sugar is not known to increase strength gains,lose bf% and aid in hardening up quite a bit...the statements that are made against ** are ridiculous as far as pubic hair,bathtub maintenance,yadda,yadda,yadda...the list goes on and on and it's all true OF COURSE...right??????????

 

[da big thinker]

Amen. Plus remember: the anavar batch (which was mine BTW) that was tested came directly from IP. Not a remailer.

manny...weren't you the one that was fisting it out w/ ** awhile back...?funny how that var came from you???!!!@@@###

 

[Code]

Why do you guys start these dumbass rumors?!

I just got his new list.

You guys need a fucking life!

 

[justwannagetsum]

Some pretty strong feelings here. I think we all need a group hug.

 

[manny78]

manny...weren't you the one that was fisting it out w/ ** awhile back...?funny how that var came from you???!!!@@@###

so what ? I'm also the only who's been able to provide some lab test for his Deca, EQ and Sust. Unlike you, when I want to prove my point I have what it takes for.

 

[manny78]

Nimrod...why such frustrations,bro?i have used ** gear and his products are great thus far...you're post sounds ignorant...i was expecting better back up than his prods are "crap" from an individual like yourself...as for his anavar testing in at 4mg...where did you get the var...from him or from a remailer...?i also heard it's made up of sugar from a member of this board...funny,cause when i used it,it didn't taste sweet and in addition,sugar is not known to increase strength gains,lose bf% and aid in hardening up quite a bit...the statements that are made against ** are ridiculous as far as pubic hair,bathtub maintenance,yadda,yadda,yadda...the list goes on and on and it's all true OF COURSE...right??????????

Did you, in your whole life, try any human grade stuff ? I mean real Dbols for example (Naps). Then I'm sure you'll realize how different both compounds are. My friend was popping 10 anavar tabs a day (from my batch). he was going in the gym all pumped and saying he never felt so strong. Then Once I got the lab results and I showed him, he just lost his "mental" power....

 

[SofaGeorge]

Why do you guys start these dumbass rumors?!

I just got his new list.

You guys need a fucking life!

I just ordered from him yesterday. Got a nice confirmation letter too where he took the time to answer all of my questions.

I find it odd that so many people I know have been ordering from him for years and love his products... yet a few people seem dedicated to trying to convince the world the guy makes crap.

 

[NY Muscle]

I just ordered from him yesterday. Got a nice confirmation letter too where he took the time to answer all of my questions.

I find it odd that so many people I know have been ordering from him for years and love his products... yet a few people seem dedicated to trying to convince the world the guy makes crap.

you have a good point...out of the 1000's who use him, the few that bash him isnt enough to prove his products are shit...i think some of these guys need to analyze themselves see if they are slacking in and out of the gym and blaming the products and not their lazy assess.

 

[Balistic]

I agree with Sofa!

I agree...

The bottom line is that a lot of bro's think his shit works great, and it will be a serious loss to those bro's who appreciate his prices.

It doesn't matter how many of you guys bitch about him and try to convince us that he sucks because a lot of us will be losing a good cheap source that we feel works for us.

 

[Kimbal68]

I hope IP is not going out of business this week my supplier has got some on order from him right now for me. I hope he sticks around for a couple of weeks.

 

[GaryWary]

The day IP quits, will be known as the greatest day in the history of AS. His products are crap, and anyone with even the slightest knowledge of gear would not go near his shit. He preys on uninformed newbies, who have little money and have no business doing gear at all. I hope you all realize that his anavar tested at 4mg per pill, thats less than half of what he claims, sounds like a conspiracy of Triple Threat proportions. Good Riddance IP.

Don't hold back there Nimrod!!

Hope you are ok sir.

G

 

[Riker29]

I wish he would retire, so that they endless questions of:

Is IP a jerk? Is he not?

Does his gear suck? Does it not?

Ot these endless stupid polls which Yet Another Nebiew creates almost daily, asking "is **'s grear any good"

... would END once and for all.

I am so sick of hearing everyone whine back and forth about this guy.

 

[da big thinker]

Did you, in your whole life, try any human grade stuff ? I mean real Dbols for example (Naps). Then I'm sure you'll realize how different both compounds are. My friend was popping 10 anavar tabs a day (from my batch). he was going in the gym all pumped and saying he never felt so strong. Then Once I got the lab results and I showed him, he just lost his "mental" power....

i have tried human grade...and your point is...?i'm sure your "friend" (funny,cause you mention you always speak w/ backed up proof) experienced the placebo effects of ** var...right...well,my results were real...not pacebo...you make it sound as though no fakes exist when it comes to human grade...i've also seen peeps pop naps like candy w/ out any results...would it be fair to say that naps "suck"?...don't think so...all i want to know,is why the bashing and negative comments about the guy in every 2nd post...?you don't like it...?don't buy it...the same way i don't like tt EQ...but you don't see me bashing TT every chance i get...right.in addition,you state you got lab results for his oil based prod's...have they been displayed on this board...?just asking cause i've never seen them...

 

[Nimrod25]

If you guys wanna use his crap then by all means use it. When your shitting in a bag in 10-15 years it will be no ones fault but your own. So go ahead and chew his tabs which contain God knows what, shoot his Deca, sure the immense pain is normal, right? Bottom line, he runs a basement bathtub operation and produces dirty garbage gear. The worst part about all this, one day someone will be seriously hurt from using this crap, and that is the day that the DEA will no longer laugh at AS use. Save a few bucks now, you will pay later.

 

[Bill W]

Having just started using some of his products, I don't feel qualified to speak to the efficacy of them, however, competition is good for the market. Its a shame there isn't a direct ** competitor with similar prices that can compete with him on service and quality. It seems he acts like he's a monopoly, and in certain ways, we treat him like one.

Nimrod, I fear that I agree with you. I'm still chewing the tabs, but at what future cost?

It'll be interesting to see many of the anavar posts disapear as peole won't want to pay up for other brands.

 

[SofaGeorge]

If you guys wanna use his crap then by all means use it. When your shitting in a bag in 10-15 years it will be no ones fault but your own. So go ahead and chew his tabs which contain God knows what, shoot his Deca, sure the immense pain is normal, right? Bottom line, he runs a basement bathtub operation and produces dirty garbage gear. The worst part about all this, one day someone will be seriously hurt from using this crap, and that is the day that the DEA will no longer laugh at AS use. Save a few bucks now, you will pay later.

Give it a rest. The whole IP "controversy" is a bogus piece of crap. Nobody would spend as much time trying to "save" everybody from IP unless they had a vested interest or were sadly lacking by not having anything resembling a LIFE. The guy under sells his competitors... by a lot. I get most of my gear from long term suppliers who sell to me basically a little above TJ prices. Most guys don't have that kind of opportunity. They have to by from the ass rape sources that are available to them through online boards. The online sources HATE IP cuz he takes away a huge chunk of their business.

The stupid part of this is IP bashing does not get more business for ass rape sources. It simply disuades more people from ordering online. Period.

And the IP bashing is wearing really thin. You don't see people ranting in endless threads about Loeffler... and it is the crappiest injectable on the market.

Scare tactics are the technique of pussies.

 

[da big thinker]

If you guys wanna use his crap then by all means use it.

Thank you for your support...

When your shitting in a bag in 10-15 years it will be no ones fault but your own.

bro...this could happen w/ any brand of gear...it's called abuse.please know that fakes do exist in our world and you never really know what you are shooting into your body,unless proper analysis is done.i've seen some serious looking fakes in my time and you wouldn't know that it was fake...

sure the immense pain is normal, right?

happens w/ all kinds of gear...sust pain is quite frequent bro..it happens w/ prop as well...

Bottom line, he runs a basement bathtub operation and produces dirty garbage gear.

please state that this is your opinion...very far from a bottom line!

The worst part about all this, one day someone will be seriously hurt from using this crap, and that is the day that the DEA will no longer laugh at AS use. Save a few bucks now, you will pay later.

the DEA has never laughed at AAS use...and you know that...we all know that AAS use carries a certain risk whether it's **,tt,or whatever other brand you choose...---

 

[new@gettinbig]

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[NORMA-MAN]

if IP really retires , he will stay in history for 2 things....

1) for making real anavar affordable to every poor bodybuilder around the world

2) for being able to make thousand small and bigger sources so much pissed at him, that they had to spend their days posting on the boards bashing his products....

R.I.P bro...

 

[da big thinker]

2) for being able to make thousand small and bigger sources so much pissed at him, that they had to spend their days posting on the boards bashing his products....

LOL...

 

[3Vandoo]

NOW WHO GAVE ME Karma for this thread
seem bad one too.

 

[GaryWary]

The fact remains that his stuff may not be clean. The fact remains that his stuff might be contaminated. He ain't Organon or Schering. His stuff maybe the cleanest stuff in the world and so mine and others comments may be unfair. But the fact remains that you don't know whether his stuff is sterile/contaminant-free unless you test it. I'd say for that reason alone IMO IMO IMO (before I get flamed) I would leave his stuff alone.

Not saying it's bad - I am just saying I don't personally trust it. Then again, with UK prices being as good as they are - why do I need to? Ok, so his is the only anavar that is available here in the UK. But I can live without anavar. Give me legit winny or dbol any day.

 

[SofaGeorge]

The fact remains that his stuff may not be clean. The fact remains that his stuff might be contaminated. He ain't Organon or Schering. His stuff maybe the cleanest stuff in the world and so mine and others comments may be unfair. But the fact remains that you don't know whether his stuff is sterile/contaminat-free unless you test it. I'd say for that reason alone IMO IMO IMO (before I get flamed) I would leave his stuff alone.

Not saying it's bad - I am just saying I don't personally trust it. Then again, with UK prices being as good as they are - why do I need to? Ok, so his is the only anavar that is available here in the UK. But I can live without anavar. Give me legit winny or dbol any day.

Gee whizzakers! By this logic EVERY source is not a pharmacy... so we might as well assume they could have contaiminated their products to make an extra buck. TTkkyo and Denkal are VET products... not prepared to human standard. We better leave that shit alone. We better not use any jucie at all!

 

[XBiker]

Who is eyepee??

www.getpinz.com

 

[GaryWary]

Gee whizzakers! By this logic EVERY source is not a pharmacy... so we might as well assume they could have contaiminated their products to make an extra buck. TTkkyo and Denkal are VET products... not prepared to human standard. We better leave that shit alone. We better not use any jucie at all!

No offence, but that argument is flawed. Ttokyo and Denkall manufacture to STANDARDS set by their respective markets. Vet gear still has to be sterile. Ttokyo have shareholders and manufacturing premises - all the things that legit businesses have. IP?

 

[GaryWary]

taken from http://www.survival-center.com/med-faq/med

Generally speaking, most veterinary drugs come from the same batches and factories as the human version, the only difference being in the labeling. This is the case for most common single-component drugs such as antibiotics. If you are going to purchase veterinary medications I strongly suggest only purchasing antibiotics or topical preparations and with the following cautions:

Make sure you know exactly what drug you are buying
Avoid preparations which contain combinations of drugs and also obscure drugs for which you can find no identical human preparation
Avoid drug preparations for specific animal conditions for which there is no human equivalent.
Buy drugs which are generically identical to their human counterparts, e.g. Amoxycillin 500mg (Vet) = Amoxycillin 500mg (Human), etc.

 

[manny78]

i have tried human grade...and your point is...?i'm sure your "friend" (funny,cause you mention you always speak w/ backed up proof) experienced the placebo effects of ** var...right...well,my results were real...not pacebo...you make it sound as though no fakes exist when it comes to human grade...i've also seen peeps pop naps like candy w/ out any results...would it be fair to say that naps "suck"?...don't think so...all i want to know,is why the bashing and negative comments about the guy in every 2nd post...?you don't like it...?don't buy it...the same way i don't like tt EQ...but you don't see me bashing TT every chance i get...right.in addition,you state you got lab results for his oil based prod's...have they been displayed on this board...?just asking cause i've never seen them...

So once again: why does anyone complains about Organon ? I never heard any contreversy about their stuff....

 

[NY Muscle]

So once again: why does anyone complains about Organon ? I never heard any contreversy about their stuff....

cause too many people profit off it too many dealers on here and allover the world...kinda like why you will NEVER see the end of all drug trafficking into the US (cocaine, etc)

 

[Code]

I used to hear people bitch alot about ttokyo and their shit.

And if you've been here long enough, you would remember it all.

No one complains about organon et al because they are *not* a source.

All the sources go out of their way to put down **'s shit because they're losing money. Everyone who is a source or is an ass-kiss for a source keeps starting rumors about the guy, lab tests (no one will publish) and lost/seized gear. Post results or shut the hell up!

 

[manny78]

All the sources go out of their way to put down **'s shit because they're losing money. Everyone who is a source or is an ass-kiss for a source keeps starting rumors about the guy, lab tests (no one will publish) and lost/seized gear. Post results or shut the hell up!

Lab test ? Do a search under my name and you'll see the scan about his EQ, Deca and sust. As for the Triedia tests on his stuff, just give a contribution or shut up.

 

[manny78]

cause too many people profit off it too many dealers on here and allover the world...kinda like why you will NEVER see the end of all drug trafficking into the US (cocaine, etc)

maybe but comparing Ip stuff with Organon is like saying a Vintage Bordeaux is similar to a crappy Californian red wine....

 

[NY Muscle]

I used to hear people bitch alot about ttokyo and their shit.

And if you've been here long enough, you would remember it all.

No one complains about organon et al because they are *not* a source.

All the sources go out of their way to put down **'s shit because they're losing money. Everyone who is a source or is an ass-kiss for a source keeps starting rumors about the guy, lab tests (no one will publish) and lost/seized gear. Post results or shut the hell up!

another genius post

good work Code... I wish people would wake up, these haters are fooling way too many people.....i NEVER EVER beleive ANY lab tests..its just not that easy to obtain and WAY too expensive for an individual who wants to know if his $50 EQ is legit.....all these "lab tests" are from people with vested interests in something else....hidden agenda people.... i know some VERY VERY VERY popular professional bodybuilders some who write articles for certain sites, and give drug advice and actually wrote a BLATENT LIE about a certain brand of GH....want to know why? cause little did the readers know HE was SELLING the direct competitng product and by bashing the popular GH, HE'd make more $$$...wanna know how i know?? he tried selling the crap to ME!!

sad shit that goes on.

 

[NY Muscle]

Lab test ? Do a search under my name and you'll see the scan about his EQ, Deca and sust. As for the Triedia tests on his stuff, just give a contribution or shut up.

ill say it for the 1001010110th time TRIEDIA = owned by sources, by BASHING IP they make more $$$ even the most retarded people she figure this out.

 

[manny78]

another genius post

good work Code... I wish people would wake up, these haters are fooling way too many people.....i NEVER EVER beleive ANY lab tests..its just not that easy to obtain and WAY too expensive for an individual who wants to know if his $50 EQ is legit.....all these "lab tests" are from people with vested interests in something else....hidden agenda people.... i know some VERY VERY VERY popular professional bodybuilders some who write articles for certain sites, and give drug advice and actually wrote a BLATENT LIE about a certain brand of GH....want to know why? cause little did the readers know HE was SELLING the direct competitng product and by bashing the popular GH, HE'd make more $$$...wanna know how i know?? he tried selling the crap to ME!!

sad shit that goes on.

The lab test I posted few months ago was done by Health Canada and even IP himself had someone in Vancouver to check if it was legit or not. And it was. Now of course if you people dont wanna believe it its up to you.......

 

[manny78]

ill say it for the 1001010110th time TRIEDIA = owned by sources, by BASHING IP they make more $$$ even the most retarded people she figure this out.

The test idea was from Snake Bite who has no affiliation with da B***............

 

[da big thinker]

So once again: why does anyone complains about Organon ? I never heard any contreversy about their stuff....

bro,how about those lab tests???---you Q has no value...let me explain;are you trying to say that there are no Organon fakes...?in addition,there's controversy on TT as well...right?well,does this mean that TT 's gear sucks ass...or what?what point are you trying to get across...?once again,you state you lab results on ** sust.deca and EQ as back up...well,where is it...if you care so much about all individuals using ** gear,then go ahead and show us some proof...---fyi

 

[Code]

SO you're saying snake's not a source??

 

[da big thinker]

The lab test I posted few months ago was done by Health Canada and even IP himself had someone in Vancouver to check if it was legit or not. And it was. Now of course if you people dont wanna believe it its up to you.......

bro...if you're interested in saving some poor soul from using his gear...go ahead and post it and back it up w/ some history and how you went about it...i'll be the first one to close my mouth and shut the hell up...for now,the info you have supplied is too GENERAL...

 

[manny78]

bro,how about those lab tests???---you Q has no value...let me explain;are you trying to say that there are no Organon fakes...?in addition,there's controversy on TT as well...right?well,does this mean that TT 's gear sucks ass...or what?what point are you trying to get across...?once again,you state you lab results on ** sust.deca and EQ as back up...well,where is it...if you care so much about all individuals using ** gear,then go ahead and show us some proof...---fyi

lazy asshole, use the search function and find them. I'm sick of your fuckin Pm' and mails asking for the scans. They wwere posted, on this board, as well as the Selct board and the Mod Forum. Even on Triedia. Now go find them.

 

[Trevdog]

Wow it never ceases to amaze me that people shoot off their mouths without having any clue what they are talking about. The lab tests were done by triedia members pooling money together. The owner of triedia did not contribute to the tests or have anything to do with them. The people that organized the tests are not sources nor are the people that contributed the samples - which came directly from IP. And Nimrod25 is not a source and also was not involved in the testing.

If you don't care what the results are and want to use the stuff anyway, that's fine. But I see no reason to get pissy with people that don't mind contributing a few dollars to find out exactly what it is that they are paying for.

 

[Trevdog]

One more thing, the rumors about IP's "retirement" started before any results from the triedia tests were completed. To claim that triedia members are somehow responsible for "pushing" IP out of the business is absurd.

 

[Nimrod25]

Thank You Trev, the truth is that I have nothing to gain bashing IP, I just love exposing him for the shithead that he is.......

So here are a few test results.

Anadrol Tabs: (Directly from IP)

Tested at: 0 mg (Thats right, no active ingredient)

Anavar Tabs: (Directly from IP)

2 Batches Tested:

Batch 1: Tested at 4mg Oxandralone per tab. (Way underdosed)

Batch 2: 0mg Oxandralone, 45mg Oxymethelone per tab.

(Thats right ladies, you thought you were taking Anavar, but you may have been taking Anadrol, damn doesnt that suck. Good thing his bioavailability is crap)

So there you have it, dont believe me, heres the proof:

http://www.primetimeonline.crosswinds.net/IP.htm

 

[manny78]

Thank You Trev, the truth is that I have nothing to gain bashing IP, I just love exposing him for the shithead that he is.......

So here are a few test results.

Anadrol Tabs: (Directly from IP)

Tested at: 0 mg (Thats right, no active ingredient)

Anavar Tabs: (Directly from IP)

2 Batches Tested:

Batch 1: Tested at 4mg Oxandralone per tab. (Way underdosed)

Batch 2: 0mg Oxandralone, 45mg Oxymethelone per tab.

(Thats right ladies, you thought you were taking Anavar, but you may have been taking Anadrol, damn doesnt that suck. Good thing his bioavailability is crap)

So there you have it, dont believe me, heres the proof:

http://www.primetimeonline.crosswinds.net/IP.htm

The truth will hurt........

 

[Code]

So the moral of the story is:

Someone (** maybe) sent anadrol instead of anavar.
Or he is shipping anadrol instead of anadrol.

And I find it hard to believe that mods/sources at tredia or here have nothing to gain from pushing him out of business.

 

[Nimrod25]

Code believe what you want, if IP works for you go on ahead and use it, I dont care. Personally, I am not a source, and I do not own triedia, I just think the truth should be known. Im sure many women have used IP Anavar, and would be infuriated to find out that they were taking Anadrol.

 

[manny78]

So the moral of the story is:

Someone (** maybe) sent anadrol instead of anavar.
Or he is shipping anadrol instead of anadrol.

And I find it hard to believe that mods/sources at tredia or here have nothing to gain from pushing him out of business.

One of the 2 batches of Anavar was sent by me (actually the one tested at 4 mg of Ox). Now they had 10 tabs which I randomly took from my 700 tabs. For God sake they had 4 MG OF OX WHILE THEY WERE SUPPOSE TO HAVE 10 MG !!! YE PEOPLE KEEP BELIEVING IN SANTA CLAUS...............

 

[Nimrod25]

One of the 2 batches of Anavar was sent by me (actually the one tested at 4 mg of Ox). Now they had 10 tabs which I randomly took from my 700 tabs. For God sake they had 4 MG OF OX WHILE THEY WERE SUPPOSE TO HAVE 10 MG !!! YE PEOPLE KEEP BELIEVING IN SANTA CLAUS...............

Not to mention that you have chew his tabs, meaning the bioavailability is almost non-existent. So that 10mg is in reality less than 2mg when you get down to it, yea, thats a real bargain.

 

[NORMA-MAN]

I agree...after these tests it's time to forget IP....i suppose we can all find some other good boyzzzz to get our stuff from instead.....

 

[JayBro]

One of the 2 batches of Anavar was sent by me (actually the one tested at 4 mg of Ox). Now they had 10 tabs which I randomly took from my 700 tabs. For God sake they had 4 MG OF OX WHILE THEY WERE SUPPOSE TO HAVE 10 MG !!! YE PEOPLE KEEP BELIEVING IN SANTA CLAUS...............

So you paid .60 cent for 4 mg ox but you could have bought 5 mg spa for $3 to $5 ?

I think I will ask Santa to bring me an IP variety pack for xmas!

 

[manny78]

So you paid .60 cent for 4 mg ox but you could have bought 5 mg spa for $3 to $5 ?

I think I will ask Santa to bring me an IP variety pack for xmas!

or I could Spanish anavar for almost the same as IP. Plus please dont compare SPA with bathtub shit.

 

[Bigredbaron]

Who cares becuz' he shit does suck. I would rather pay the extra money for human and/or vet grade and know what I'm pumping into my system. I have bought his Deca, EQ, D-bol, Armidex, Superclen, Masteron and Methandriol. So far the Deac, EQ, Superclen and D-bol sucked my sweaty ball sack. The Armidex seems to work pretty good and waiting to try the masteron and methandriol. Good for him he has made a lot of money and we wish the best for him and the money he made.

WHO CARES

 

[manny78]

There's something positive with that: His family will finally gain access to the bathtub again.....

 

[Quadsweep]

There's something positive with that: His family will finally gain access to the bathtub again.....

 

[blown93302]

i just hope that everyone who is bashing his products, or praising them, have used them. and as for not affective? give me a break guys. why would people buy them and continue to use him as a source if his products didnt work? and dont you find it strange that almost every other board on the net has good things to say about him and his products.

out of all the people who have actually TRIED his products, i'll bet my life that more people had good results than shitty results, me included in the good results. so unless you have tried them, what gives you the right to say they are shit, or made in a bathtub? u cant bash something until you've tried it. look at what the media has done to roids. if you belived everything that they say, you probably would have never tried anything based on the opinions of others.

 

[Nimrod25]

Tests don't lie.

 

[Trevdog]

Again it is absurd to suggest that anybody is "pushing" IP into retirement. IP has never struck me as being a guy that gets "pushed" into anything.

And again, it gets tiresome having people accuse me of being a source. I'm a mod at triedia, and I earn my living as an attorney not as a source. I don't know why some people find it so hard to believe that I have something to gain by participating in some purported testing scam. Believe what you want to believe, but don't question my integrity if you don't know me from Adam. There is nothing sinister about me being willing to chip in $30 for some tests.

I have used a lot of IP products and have got mixed results from them. Its always hard to judge the quality of something based on your gains when you are stacking it with something else. You also wonder whether it was the gear, or whether it was something else. I don't consider myself a "basher", I genuinely hoped that the results of the tests would vindicate IP (and vindicate me for supporting him). In some respects, they do (see winstrol & arimidex). In other respects they don't.

Someone made a good point that even if his tabs are underdosed they still may be a good value. True but it also appears that the tabs are not consistent from batch to batch so how do you really know what you have?

I thought the anadrol and anavar results were very strange. I wonder if IP was trying to "burn" the person that got anadrol instead of anavar or whether there was some kind of mixup. I have read about people getting superclen when they ordered anavar. In any event, I know that ALL of his "anavar" tabs aren't really anadrol, since I'd be blowing up huge right now if they were. But it is frightening to think that a woman might take something believing it to be anavar and it turns out to be something else.

 

[donkeydick]

If you guys spent half the time reading or taking classes as you do bashing IP, then maybe our country wouldnt be full of morons. Get a life please.

 

[manny78]

If you guys spent half the time reading or taking classes as you do bashing IP, then maybe our country wouldnt be full of morons. Get a life please.

Keep injecting Dr. Pepper and popping baking soda.......

 

[bigjim33]

hey i am usually at another board but i finally registered here because you guys are some of the best. i was wondering.....i know a lot of his products aren't as good as he says or even what he says, but people i have talked to said his winny is good stuff. what do you guys think about this?

 

[Primo57]

Oh no..... where will people get their peanut oil & bacteria!

 

[Trevdog]

hey i am usually at another board but i finally registered here because you guys are some of the best. i was wondering.....i know a lot of his products aren't as good as he says or even what he says, but people i have talked to said his winny is good stuff. what do you guys think about this?

I agree. I can't remember anybody complaining about the winstrol and the test results were good.

 

[UnderGroundLifter]

There is no need to bash him if you don't like his stuff don't use it. I personal like his stuff and have not had a problem, also the service was great and it arrived quickly. I would use him again.

 

[bigjim33]

thanks trev

 

[da big thinker]

lazy asshole, use the search function and find them. I'm sick of your fuckin Pm' and mails asking for the scans. They wwere posted, on this board, as well as the Selct board and the Mod Forum. Even on Triedia. Now go find them.

listen jr.,why must you resort to calling people names?does this come with your Mod status...you state you're sick of my PM's and e-mails on the lab tests...?WHY DO YOU LIE manny...check your fuckin' e-mail and PM's punk and learn to distinguish user names,cause i've never e-mailed you for your fuckin' lab reports...what a friggin' joke...keep trying to convince yourself that ** ain't a threat little man...

 

[Code]

Another day goes by and manny loses a wee bit more business......

 

[manny78]

listen jr.,why must you resort to calling people names?does this come with your Mod status...you state you're sick of my PM's and e-mails on the lab tests...?WHY DO YOU LIE manny...check your fuckin' e-mail and PM's punk and learn to distinguish user names,cause i've never e-mailed you for your fuckin' lab reports...what a friggin' joke...keep trying to convince yourself that ** ain't a threat little man...

a threat for me ? Ahahahaha I'm the one who threw him on the ground with my seizure letter. He was suppose to be 100% seizure free in Canada. He thought he was some smart ass but he wasn't.

Lemme guess are you one of his remailers ? hummmm you sound very hurt by the scans.


Now people remember this:

- The guy is now flagged. He may change his shipping method but local authorities aren't stupid. I know their method

- There's a risk to get some God knows what.

- Dealing with him after a seizure is something unforgettable lol


BTW the words "you" was directed to you specifically but to all those newbies asking for the scans.

 

[da big thinker]

a threat for me ? Ahahahaha I'm the one who threw him on the ground with my seizure letter. He was suppose to be 100% seizure free in Canada. He thought he was some smart ass but he wasn't.

Lemme guess are you one of his remailers ? hummmm you sound very hurt by the scans.


Now people remember this:

- The guy is now flagged. He may change his shipping method but local authorities aren't stupid. I know their method

- There's a risk to get some God knows what.

- Dealing with him after a seizure is something unforgettable lol


BTW the words "you" was directed to you specifically but to all those newbies asking for the scans.

manny,manny...oh my lil' friend manny...it seems to me that you go out of your way to "throw him on the ground" so to speak...why?why do you try soooooooooo hard oh little one...and anyone who knows me can vouch that i'm not a source (LMAO btw)...i'm just someone who has used the products along w/ proper diet,training and recup and guess what?they worked...try it some time...you'll see a BIG difference.and stop lying about me sending you PM and e-mails about your lab reports...lying will get you nowhere Mod man...hehehe

 

[GaryWary]

I cannot be arsed to contribute more to this thread. Some people like his stuff despite problems being pointed out. The Winny is deemed to be good stuff.

The End.

Every one lived happily ever after, especially IP who made shit loads from selective scamming and/or poor product quality.

 

[Balistic]

update to test results page

There is a new link to the test results page and the IP Dbol test results are now in as well...

Those of you good bro's that contributed will be getting the new addy from Mitch1301 or Snakebite shortly, just be patient and stay tuned.

 

[JayBro]

yea ull get results, ull blow up at that 45mg of anadrol, but your liver will blow up too cause u didnt know what u were taking

45mg of anadrol per tab. Dont you think that if someone took 4 tabs they would be able to tell the difference between 40 mg's of var and 180 mg's of drol? I think so.

Is it not possible something got mixed up either before it got to the lab or by the lab itself?

ComeOn Now.com

 

[SofaGeorge]

Re: update to test results page

There is a new link to the test results page and the IP Dbol test results are now in as well...

Those of you good bro's that contributed will be getting the new addy from Mitch1301 or Snakebite shortly, just be patient and stay tuned.

Do the tests include certification that the IP gear tested was shipped directly from IP to the testing lab? Or is the whole thing invalidated by the gear first being shipped to a third party who could have shipped anything he wanted to the lab and claimed it was from IP?

 

[haxedout]

im pretty sure the tabs got mixed up guys.... from the third party or the lab.. i have saw too many people see good results from his gear.. adrol and dbol.. people i know get huge.. anavar they cut up etc etc.... now u tell me how the hell someone is gonna get vascular and hard as hell taking a anavar tab that is really anadrol? .............the tabs were fucked up somehow.... they may be slightly underdosed but i dont think they are extremely off.. later

 

[Trevdog]

45mg of anadrol per tab. Dont you think that if someone took 4 tabs they would be able to tell the difference between 40 mg's of var and 180 mg's of drol? I think so.

Is it not possible something got mixed up either before it got to the lab or by the lab itself?

ComeOn Now.com

Yes, I think they would tell the difference. However, it is very unlikely that the tabs got mixed up unless IP mixed them up on purpose. When the intial results came back, the lab was asked to retest the samples. They specifically identified the tabs by color and I don't see how they could confuse tan for yellow.

 

[Trevdog]

Re: Re: update to test results page

Do the tests include certification that the IP gear tested was shipped directly from IP to the testing lab? Or is the whole thing invalidated by the gear first being shipped to a third party who could have shipped anything he wanted to the lab and claimed it was from IP?

There is nothing stopping IP or anyone else from sending something directly to the lab and paying to have it tested. However, realize that people will suspect that he made sure that the tabs he knew would be tested would contain what he advertised. The people doing the testing wanted the gear that they received from IP to be tested. If you think that these people shipped something else to the lab in order to discredit IP, I think you would be wrong but you can believe whatever you want to believe.

 

[SofaGeorge]

Re: Re: Re: update to test results page

There is nothing stopping IP or anyone else from sending something directly to the lab and paying to have it tested. However, realize that people will suspect that he made sure that the tabs he knew would be tested would contain what he advertised. The people doing the testing wanted the gear that they received from IP to be tested. If you think that these people shipped something else to the lab in order to discredit IP, I think you would be wrong but you can believe whatever you want to believe.

Given the insane amount of energy that some people put into trying to discredit IP... I think the theory that they would send any jack shit they could to a lab is pretty credible. There is a lot of fake gear in the world. There is a lot of underdosed gear in the world.

Oddly enough, none of these companies gets the heat IP gets.

The logical conclusion is that sources can't stand being undersold by IP.

What is really f--king sick about this is obviously someone has taken to snitching off IP resellers. That is about as low a crap as it gets. Being undersold is one thing. Putting bros in federal prison for 5 years so you can make a buck is quite another.

 

[da big thinker]

im pretty sure the tabs got mixed up guys.... from the third party or the lab.. i have saw too many people see good results from his gear.. adrol and dbol.. people i know get huge.. anavar they cut up etc etc.... now u tell me how the hell someone is gonna get vascular and hard as hell taking a anavar tab that is really anadrol? .............the tabs were fucked up somehow.... they may be slightly underdosed but i dont think they are extremely off.. later

some peeps here would call that PLACEBO...LMAO

 

[iron_sun_god]

Refardless of whether you like his products or not, or whether you use them or not, once he is gone most not all, but most sources will easily be able to raise their prices. Why? Because shit if you can't get his cheap stuff anymore then you will go to them and pay the price. Personally I like his products. I tried his anadrol and that was about the only thing that I did not like. I am currently on his deca, sus, and d-bol. My weight has gone from 185lbs. to 212lbs. So if his shit is so underdosed how in the hell did I make such incredible gains??? And this is only the fourth week into it! And weight isn't the only thing that has increased. My incline bench went from 225lbs. for 6 reps to 295lbs. for 8 reps. So bash his shit if you will it's your opinion and your entitled to it, but do not say that his shit doesn't work because that is just ludicrous. Oh and my doses are only at sus-600mgs/wk, deca-600mgs/wk, dbol-50mg/ED. One last thing even if he does retire, which I highly doubt he has enough product to last for roughly one year. So I wouldn't be too worried even if he was retiring. Later...