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Insulin?

Bruvstar

Bruvstar

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Please excuse my incompetence if this an illegal topic, not sure why it would be but theres little discussion on this. So if this is breaking the rules please disregard this topic.

Insulin.. Can it be used to build Lean Muscle? Since its used to boost blood sugar levels?

What are bonuses? Positives, Negatives... Cycling information, would you take this? Wouldnt you?

I want everything on it if possible :D

Thanks in advances guys
 
I'm pretty sure it's against the rules because it's an extremely stupid and dangerous practice.

I wouldn't touch the stuff unless I had diabetes... And I'm pretty liberal about what I'll try on myself.

For the potential results there are much better options... What are your stats/goals?
 
Yeh, MODERATORS: I'm not intending to break rules, i scanned the rules, didn't see anything against this, but assumed since the lack of information that it's frowned upon? Just want to know about it, not promote its use in any way!

Stats:

181cm
190lbs
13% BF

Cycled Dbol 4 weeks.
Cycles Tren / Test, but discontinued cycle due to sound advice from other members here.

12 years International level gymnastics, quit last year and started lifting properly 3 months ago intensely. 5 days a week, VERY clean / strict bulking diet.
I have a massive metabolism, and find it easy to gain lean muscle, BF will almost never go up above 14-15% no matter what i eat, consume.

Goals:

Want to MASS BULK. Get some size.
220lbs
10% BF

Want this goal by August. Ambitious yes, impossible.. No.

When i quit gymnastics i was at 162lbs. Cycled Dbol for 4 weeks at my first month at gym, put on 28lbs and dropped 1%BF since then (3months later.)

My goal, find something that can help me Bulk up, just exploring options... know Test will, But what to use to assist that?
I'm at 4,000cals, 320g Protein, 380g carbs and 150g fat.
 
I would start a new thread with that info (plus your age please) and just ask for some opinions minus the insulin part.

I don't think insulin is your answer. The guys should be able to point you in the right direction. If you don't find what you're looking for I know a few who know their stuff. Lemme know.
 
its not against the rules per say, but we just don't discuss it as we've lost brothers to insulin.

you don't need to know what it is, and you don't need to know how to use it. you can reach your goals without risking your life.

to be honest there are other compounds that people don't need to even consider.. clen might be another one. some extra laps around the track and stricter diet can do what clen does without the sides, but that is another debate.
 
Bruvstar said:
Yeh, MODERATORS: I'm not intending to break rules, i scanned the rules, didn't see anything against this, but assumed since the lack of information that it's frowned upon? Just want to know about it, not promote its use in any way!

Stats:

181cm
190lbs
13% BF

Cycled Dbol 4 weeks.
Cycles Tren / Test, but discontinued cycle due to sound advice from other members here.

12 years International level gymnastics, quit last year and started lifting properly 3 months ago intensely. 5 days a week, VERY clean / strict bulking diet.
I have a massive metabolism, and find it easy to gain lean muscle, BF will almost never go up above 14-15% no matter what i eat, consume.

Goals:

Want to MASS BULK. Get some size.
220lbs
10% BF

Want this goal by August. Ambitious yes, impossible.. No.

When i quit gymnastics i was at 162lbs. Cycled Dbol for 4 weeks at my first month at gym, put on 28lbs and dropped 1%BF since then (3months later.)

My goal, find something that can help me Bulk up, just exploring options... know Test will, But what to use to assist that?
I'm at 4,000cals, 320g Protein, 380g carbs and 150g fat.
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We never said you were breaking the rules, just a lot of brothers here are against it. Nothing wrong with that. There is way better options to gain size IMO
 
I won't disrespect those who have lost their lives. I'll take your advice and move on. Peace, and my condolences.

Thanks guys, will start a
New thread.

Please lock this down.
 
Cutiebolic said:
I'm pretty sure it's against the rules because it's an extremely stupid and dangerous practice.

I wouldn't touch the stuff unless I had diabetes... And I'm pretty liberal about what I'll try on myself.

For the potential results there are much better options... What are your stats/goals?[/QUOTE]

exactly!!!!!!!
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I'm on Dr prescribed insulin, one day i was really busy so i took a Protein shake to tide me over a few hrs later i was in wal mart told my wife it was hot in here, we were just leaving ,it was 35 degrees outside and i was still sweating, i was driving and was going all over the road, the wife made me pul over, I didn't even know where i was even had the AC on and was still sweating up a storm, we were 5 minutes away from home, when we arrived i couldn't walk she sat me in this swing we had outside man sweat was pouring off of me and i was talking that made no sense (according to her) she left me there and went to the store got me a candy bar and coke ,when she got back i was soaked and had cuts all over my left arm, we still don't know how i got them as i was in the swing when she got back after eating the bar and drinking the coke about 15 minutes i started getting cold so i was comming out of Hypothermic shock ,man! That was some scary stuff.
Now when ever i feel even the slightest of it comming on i eat. no one needs to mess with that stuff!
 
Shit I got hypo with a good does of IGF and that is scary enough for me. Screw fucking around with str8 up slin.. I will stick with the Need2slin ..
 
RADAR said:
I'm on Dr prescribed insulin, one day i was really busy so i took a Protein shake to tide me over a few hrs later i was in wal mart told my wife it was hot in here, we were just leaving ,it was 35 degrees outside and i was still sweating, i was driving and was going all over the road, the wife made me pul over, I didn't even know where i was even had the AC on and was still sweating up a storm, we were 5 minutes away from home, when we arrived i couldn't walk she sat me in this swing we had outside man sweat was pouring off of me and i was talking that made no sense (according to her) she left me there and went to the store got me a candy bar and coke ,when she got back i was soaked and had cuts all over my left arm, we still don't know how i got them as i was in the swing when she got back after eating the bar and drinking the coke about 15 minutes i started getting cold so i was comming out of Hypothermic shock ,man! That was some scary stuff.
Now when ever i feel even the slightest of it comming on i eat. no one needs to mess with that stuff!
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thats scary man. i guess you have to keep watch of your blood sugar like a hawk.
 
I sure do, but SARMS S4 sure knows how to use it, man ! I hadn't trained for a few weeks and ran some sarms to loose a bit of holiday Body fat,it did more than that i looks ripped to hell and looked like i had been busting my butt in the gym, so no telling whats gonna happen come summertime.

And Yeah Steve I take a blood/glucose reading sometimes twice a day,now that gets old! Really old.
 
RADAR said:
I'm on Dr prescribed insulin, one day i was really busy so i took a Protein shake to tide me over a few hrs later i was in wal mart told my wife it was hot in here, we were just leaving ,it was 35 degrees outside and i was still sweating, i was driving and was going all over the road, the wife made me pul over, I didn't even know where i was even had the AC on and was still sweating up a storm, we were 5 minutes away from home, when we arrived i couldn't walk she sat me in this swing we had outside man sweat was pouring off of me and i was talking that made no sense (according to her) she left me there and went to the store got me a candy bar and coke ,when she got back i was soaked and had cuts all over my left arm, we still don't know how i got them as i was in the swing when she got back after eating the bar and drinking the coke about 15 minutes i started getting cold so i was comming out of Hypothermic shock ,man! That was some scary stuff.
Now when ever i feel even the slightest of it comming on i eat. no one needs to mess with that stuff!
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Man be careful! My dad was a diabetic so I understand. Hypoglycemia is so easy to turn around but if you fall over that invisible line it's bad stuff and I know you know that. My dad always had candy with him. Sugar under the tongue works good for quick turn around.
 
Surely that's every serious bb's aim...

Spoke to my source, who has a pro card.. He said he lost a friend to it. And wouldn't sell it to me regardless. It's to dangerous for the risks involved. He said we can talk about different options. But to stay away from it.


Certainly won't Ignore this advice from you guys or him.
 
needtogetaas said:
Shit I got hypo with a good does of IGF and that is scary enough for me. Screw fucking around with str8 up slin.. I will stick with the Need2slin ..
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Needto the good thing about Need2slin is it helps regulate healthy Blood /Glucose levels ,thanks for a fine product that works!
I highly reccommend it for everyone who wants that edge in loosing Bodyfat!
 
If you're Lee Haney size and want to take it up to Dorian and Ronnie levels then by all means try Insulin. OTHERWISE, no.

Yes you can build lean muscle very fast. Unfortunately, sometimes that increased size can look displeasing. Especially the nasty gut. If done right, you will grow like a beast though.

It is one of the bodybuilding compounds that can also be lethal so unless you need that real edge to keep growing and you have exhausted all other means and you're stuck at a huge weight (let's say 5'10 235lbs 5%bf) and you just can't grow and you don't want to double your tren up and test then insulin might help you break that plateau.

Bruvstar, it is not for you. I think you said you're 190lbs and judging by your pics, you're not shredded to the bone. Stay away from it dude. Basic anabolics...then when you are ready try tren...then go for hgh...you should be a monster by this time. If you're looking for a NPC placing or IFBB card then you can re-evaluate insulin.
 
Like everyone said, insulin is frowned upon, but since you can pick it up legally from ANY pharmacy without prescription, because of the fact that if there is an emergency and someone needs insulin now, they will not risk his / her life by asking for paperwork...

If you are going to do it anyways, i'd rather you be safe.

What do you want to know?
 
RADAR said:
Needto the good thing about Need2slin is it helps regulate healthy Blood /Glucose levels ,thanks for a fine product that works!
I highly reccommend it for everyone who wants that edge in loosing Bodyfat!
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ANd gaining size too . Most people still think its just for fat lose but it also helps with muscle gain.
 
Well I don't think I will. But I'm still curious so long as no one minds me asking.

How to shoot it (what size difference to normal)

How often? And why?

How does it benefit you it general?

Is it a better option than Tren? In terms of overall growth gains, basically is it comparable.

If anyone has a problem
With this please let me know.

Thanks bro
 
Bruvstar said:
Yeh, MODERATORS: I'm not intending to break rules, i scanned the rules, didn't see anything against this, but assumed since the lack of information that it's frowned upon? Just want to know about it, not promote its use in any way!

Stats:

181cm
190lbs
13% BF

Cycled Dbol 4 weeks.
Cycles Tren / Test, but discontinued cycle due to sound advice from other members here.

12 years International level gymnastics, quit last year and started lifting properly 3 months ago intensely. 5 days a week, VERY clean / strict bulking diet.
I have a massive metabolism, and find it easy to gain lean muscle, BF will almost never go up above 14-15% no matter what i eat, consume.

Goals:

Want to MASS BULK. Get some size.
220lbs
10% BF

Want this goal by August. Ambitious yes, impossible.. No.

When i quit gymnastics i was at 162lbs. Cycled Dbol for 4 weeks at my first month at gym, put on 28lbs and dropped 1%BF since then (3months later.)

My goal, find something that can help me Bulk up, just exploring options... know Test will, But what to use to assist that?
I'm at 4,000cals, 320g Protein, 380g carbs and 150g fat.
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ConanX is right.

You sure as shit don't need insulin to go from 190 to 220 at 5'11". God damn, go lift some heavy ass weight and eat about 2000 more cals a day, minimum 2 grams protein per pound of body weight. Throw in a cycle and you'll be 220 in no time.
 
RADAR said:
Needto the good thing about Need2slin is it helps regulate healthy Blood /Glucose levels ,thanks for a fine product that works!
I highly reccommend it for everyone who wants that edge in loosing Bodyfat!
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Bit pricy but it does work..
 
Yeh man. Its sound advice thanks. Just quickly to avoid a new thread.
Thoughts on this.

Goals: vascular, mass muscle gain, avoid fat Increase. Stats are above. And diet.

450mg deca week.
750mg test e week
400mg EQ week
100mg ED Adrol

Chlomid, a.dex, HCGenerate, forged liver support, caber.

Was looking to run deca, test, EQ 1-10 and Adrol 1-4. Will increase protein to 400g and reduce fat.

I know it's heavy. You know my goals. You know my game. Sound advice please brothers!
 
I do not recommend this nor do i think you need to , but just in case you decide to play game with your health, here's what you basically need to know

The most popular one that you can pick up from any pharmacy is: Humalog by Elli Lilli...they have three kinds, you want the fast release one - 15 mins I believe.

Most people will tell you to inject right after the workout, then take 40grams of protein and 50 grams of carbs - in a shake - faster absorbtion 5 minutes after the shot. You should wait for 15 minutes and take another 30 grams of protein and 40-60 grams of carbs. After that, you should be good for an hour. After an hour, you should have a good hearty meal. Chicken with rice - might want to throw in some pasta if you're bulking. Make sure to keep fats to the minimum 4 hours before and 4 hours after slin injections...you don't want to put on a ton of fat...you can bulk clean on insulin, you just need to take lots of carbs and low fat...

Some people like to inject slin with every meal, 5 times a deal...I feel it's not realistic...too much to worry about, too much responsibility being able to keep carbs high all day and make sure you dont get any symptoms...

A lot of people, especially pros will tell you to inject before working out as well....I'll tell you from experience, you'll get a pump like you have never experienced in your life...nothing compared to insulin pumps if you inject pre workout...it's very risky however...very risky....you'll need to keep sipping gatorade throughout your workout, make sure your workout is fast and make sure you eat right after...and the dosages should be less than half what you take post workout.

As for dosages, most would say start with 2-3 units and work your way up to 10 units - you should not exceed 10 units if it is your firt run on insulin.

You will hear stories about people who ran 60 units of insulin for 5 months straight and nothing happened. I could also tell you stories about people who were shot 25 times and still breathing, doesnt make it right...just makes you lucky.

you should not run insulin for more than 2 months at a time and for a maximum of 3 times a year....so technically, a total of 6 months spread out...

That's the basic info you need...i'd research it a lot more....

I've used it safely - I just don't like to talk about it because people get stupid and decided their body is a chemistry experiment...

I would be careful, read a ton and come back and ask questions of you have em.
 
I don't reccommend it for anyone, we have lost a few Bros here over the yrs messing with insulin , besides what happens if you have a flat tire or stuck in traffic due to an accident? what you gonna do when you go hypo? it happens alot, you may feel fine when you leave home but it can come on anytime. Is your health worth it? you only have one life , once you use that up then you're gone! no second chances!
 
As everyone else already stated ya obviously dangerous. You can keep sugary items on hand to combat low blood sugar but the problem is the confusion low blood sugar causes. You get so confused you don't recognize what is going on.
 
I'm using it during my pct.
I have got a mate who use it every time he cycles.
He never go over 10units tho, fuck!! He grows like a mofo.
I know it's dangerous but what's not.
I know ppl who have died cause of abusing aas.
What about the people who uses crazy aas dosages? And other party drugs.

If you have proper education about how to use it and diet. IMO insulin is the bomb.

I am just gana use it during my pct to hold my gains and I'm not stupid to take crazy dosage either.

Bodybuilding is a marathon not a sprint race.
 
My thoughts on slin use...1st the individual must be the tall ectomorphic type with a fast metabolism, these types of individuals don't over secrete slin much anyways, why? they don't have alot of muscle most likely, as well as excess fat on their frames. Don't take more than 2x daily ever! Make sure that you have 7-9 hrs. of sleep behind you when you start your slin doses, falling asleep while slin is still active, is Russian Roulette. Humulin R is OTC and a pharmaceutical grade hormone always legit, thats a big plus!
 
Gearjunkie said:
Fuck!!!!!!! That's fucking expensive bro.

Over in aus its. 30bucks for 10cc
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Don;t know if it makes a difference but the insulun i'm on is slow acting one pin of 20ius and i'm good until the next day providing i eat something or i will go hypo
This really sucks
 
Bruvstar said:
Please excuse my incompetence if this an illegal topic, not sure why it would be but theres little discussion on this. So if this is breaking the rules please disregard this topic.

Insulin.. Can it be used to build Lean Muscle? Since its used to boost blood sugar levels?

What are bonuses? Positives, Negatives... Cycling information, would you take this? Wouldnt you?

I want everything on it if possible :D

Thanks in advances guys
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Basically it is a crazy and extremely risky thing to do that can kill you. Some do it to gain an edge, but its highly dangerous. Dont do it if you value your life, and if your still going to attempt it go to an attorney and get a will made. I dont think life insurance covers suicide so save your money.

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RADAR said:
Don;t know if it makes a difference but the insulun i'm on is slow acting one pin of 20ius and i'm good until the next day providing i eat something or i will go hypo
This really sucks
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I think it works the same I was talking about the rapid slin.

I believe you mate. Using slin everyday sucks
 
joeblow12345 said:
Basically it is a crazy and extremely risky thing to do that can kill you. Some do it to gain an edge, but its highly dangerous. Dont do it if you value your life, and if your still going to attempt it go to an attorney and get a will made. I dont think life insurance covers suicide so save your money.

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Why is it dangerous?

Say if I shot 10unit of rapid pow,then take 100grams of dextrose with 50grams wpi.

Then in about half hour I take 30 gram of dextrose n 30grams wpi.

Then in about a hour big meal high in protein, med slow real sing crabs

How could you possible go hypo?
 
Because sometimes shit happens man. I have a 40y/o friend that is type 1 diabetic and he maintains his disease very well. But twice in his life he has gone into diabetic shock and nearly died. Why? Anyone's guess. Sometimes your body reacts differently. You over estimate the amount of carbs you are taking in. Etc.

That said I've used it before and
I will again.
 
Gearjunkie said:
Why is it dangerous?

Say if I shot 10unit of rapid pow,then take 100grams of dextrose with 50grams wpi.

Then in about half hour I take 30 gram of dextrose n 30grams wpi.

Then in about a hour big meal high in protein, med slow real sing crabs

How could you possible go hypo?
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Why is it dangerous? I'll tell ya! I'm an EMT we use dextrose (d50) for our diabetic emergencies. The problem with dextrose you can only give it IV not IM! It's so costic that whatever tissue it touches it eats it and if you don't know what you are doing you can give your self so much sugar you become a state of ketoacidosis. On the other hand you have insulin. Insulin will destroy your kidneys. That's what you see most common in a diabetic patient you generally see Renal failure. Also if you mess with your insulin production you could bring about a state of pitting Edema which will begin to shunt fluid into your extracellular spaces. Say hello to drowning not to mention once that happens it only takes a bit for you to develop some form of shock whether it's hypovolemic or god for bid multiple organ dysfunction syndrome (MODS). So better not ever mess with insulin! Just let your body do it by eating right and at the right time with the right food. Mkay?
 
Hit_the_weightS said:
Anyone heard of Paul borreson?
Check out this guys stack on page 2 of this interview.

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online...mical_warfare_an_interview_with_paul_borresen

30iu of insulin with every meal!!!
This man is insane

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Pain is weakness leaving the Body
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I read this article and if thats what it takes to be a pro bb then good luck. Those are some insane dosages. I cant believe someone would do up to 60 shots a day. Holy shit that is a crazy dude. He may be 290 with 8% bf, but at what cost ultimately. I love juice as much as the next meat head but Im not this crazy.

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SaccoDoingStuff said:
Why is it dangerous? I'll tell ya! I'm an EMT we use dextrose (d50) for our diabetic emergencies. The problem with dextrose you can only give it IV not IM! It's so costic that whatever tissue it touches it eats it and if you don't know what you are doing you can give your self so much sugar you become a state of ketoacidosis. On the other hand you have insulin. Insulin will destroy your kidneys. That's what you see most common in a diabetic patient you generally see Renal failure. Also if you mess with your insulin production you could bring about a state of pitting Edema which will begin to shunt fluid into your extracellular spaces. Say hello to drowning not to mention once that happens it only takes a bit for you to develop some form of shock whether it's hypovolemic or god for bid multiple organ dysfunction syndrome (MODS). So better not ever mess with insulin! Just let your body do it by eating right and at the right time with the right food. Mkay?
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Diabetic ketoacidosis is a problem that occurs in people with diabetes. It occurs when the body cannot use sugar (glucose) as a fuel source because there is no insulin or not enough insulin. Fat is used for fuel instead.
Byproducts of fat breakdown, called ketones, build up in the body.

If your carb to insulin ratio are good you wont get this side effect.

And thing about kidney failure only happens when abused in big dosages for long time.

And my man last time I was taking upto 15iu in a day for 4weeks
Not a single side effect.
 
Gearjunkie said:
Diabetic ketoacidosis is a problem that occurs in people with diabetes. It occurs when the body cannot use sugar (glucose) as a fuel source because there is no insulin or not enough insulin. Fat is used for fuel instead.
Byproducts of fat breakdown, called ketones, build up in the body.

If your carb to insulin ratio are good you wont get this side effect.

And thing about kidney failure only happens when abused in big dosages for long time.

And my man last time I was taking upto 15iu in a day for 4weeks
Not a single side effect.
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You are right however, it's not hard to cause an abundance of ketones in the body if you raise your levels far above normal which is very easy if you use dextrose.
 
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