ok, firstly im being COMPLETELY honest.. If im here for advice, and i mislead you would that not in fact destroy the purpose of posting in the first play? And in my opinion im very anabolic to begin with, my natty test must be insane.. not dicksizing or anything.. just ive wondered.. Id lift for like a week.. and get visible results... annd thats all i do because i just for right now want a nice physique i dont wanna be a mass monster bc of baseball if anyone had seen the post i made about 6 months ago of my natty state before lifting, noone in my school believed me.. i was no animal but i had decent figure to begin... maybe i was hypersensitive to the androgens and it just crashed my system... i mean, your sayin 3 pills wont do anything.. but my god the little puffy things on my nips dont lie... But are my symptoms that of a bad shutdown? and if so.. should i get some tribulus? theres no way im takin any serms or ai bc im NOT closing my plates if they arent already closed.. But if i AM shut down wouldnt the estro spike close them? Btw- im here bc i DO plan on doing a cycle once im old enough and get hardcore with it after my baseball career is a thing of the past.. yep..