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**In the gym the other day it f~#kin pissed me off wghlftr& pwrlftr said**

What a dumb arguement. Anyone can go to KFC and eat chicken wings everyday or Burger King Whoppers and call themselves a powerlifter. A full squat for a powerlifter is with feet abouyt 30 inches apart, ass out, bar half way down the back, knees mummified with wraps, lifting suit, etc..... Too lazy to lose bulk, so they find excuses to drop the weight.

I would rather look like a bodybuilder and bench weak weights, than look fat and lazy. After all, what are powerlifters going to do? Bring their benches to the bench with them?
 
You know the narrow mindedness that has been expressed in this post is staggering. Some people are so quick to stereotype a large group. I was going to quote some of the things that were said, but it seems quite redundant. The general concensus though would seem to suggest that ALL powerlifters are fat, lazy, out of shape bastards that lack the discipline to diet and NEVER get laid. I guess someone forgot to tell the 114,123,132,148,165,181,198 classes that they have to be at 20%+ to compete. Luckily powerlifters have equipment to lift the weight for them because they are too lazy. So I guess all the lifters that compete in "raw" competitions are not considered powerlifters??!

Like I said previously not all powerlifters compete in the SHW class. Take Angelo Berardenilli for example. He competes in the 165 class and squats over 700 and benches around 500. He has totalled ELITE in his weight class. He also has his "6pack" in full effect. His bodyfat is as low as the majority of the bodybuilders on this board. Don't worry though I'M SURE that he is still jealous of bodybuilders.

What about Chuck Vogelpohl? He competes in the 242's usually and his bodyfat is always single digits, and he squats 900. I'll bet he is just ate up with jealousy.

Even Dr. Mauro Di Pasquale was between 3-6% bodyfat when he competed. Even now that he is in his 50's his bodyfat is 7% and he can squat 600lbs. How many bodybuilders can say that?

If you want the ultimate example how about KAZ??! Bill Kazmaier was the greatest strongman/powerlifter of all time.

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A lat shot at 330 pounds and 7% bodyfat

Height: 6'3"
Weight: 321 to 350 lbs.
Measurements:
60" chest
23" biceps
17" forearms
22+" neck
40" waist
32" thigh
20.5" calfs

Best Lifts
Please Note that He Did Not Use Bench Shirts or Squat Suits. Also, in the Squat, He Kept his Back Perpendicular to the Ground, Not like the Good Mornings that Pass as Squats

Competition Squat: 925 pounds-wr
Competition Bench: 661 pounds-wr
Competition Deadlift: 887 pounds-wr
Total in Competition: 2425 pounds-wr

The problem with all of this is that people are using the EXTREME to define the NORM. When you do this of course your conclusions are going to be skewed. Believe what you will but for every Anthony Clark or Gary Frank...both obvious fat slobs...there is an Anthony Berardenilli or a Chuck Vogelpohl that are ripped to the bone and still lifting big.

However if it helps your ego to think that ALL powerlifters are FAT then by all means continue.
 
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I know alot of guys who are fat anadrol bloated slobs who use the term "powerlifter" as an excuse for their appearance. these are the same guys who harp on how "massive" and heavy they are.

Please do not confuse these people with real powerlifters. I know several top ranked PLers, and these guys do pay attention to things like diet, and actually have good physiques. In fact most of the real powerlifters you will see walking around are not 260lbs... the most competitive classes are 181, 198 and 220. The 220 guys often are moving more weight than the superheavies, especially in the DL.

Bodybuilders do have to endure a much higher training load though. Powerlifters generally don't train more than 4 days a week. Anymore than that and continual strength gains will suffer.

BTW I love out-lifting the so called fatass PLer's. There are two at my gym who i suspect want to lynch me:mix:
 
Hannibal,
Those were some nice posts. You made some nice points....but unfortunately, most people are narrow minded.....they are right, everybody else is wrong. they will continue to think that powerlifters are fat no matter what you do.
If they could see my training partner, who has won the nationals in the UK, they would see what powerlifters are all about, and that they can look good. My training partner competes at 198, is 6 foot tall, and looks like a bodybuilder a month or so out from a contest at all times. Oh yeah, he deadlifts over 700lb with reasonable ease.
Most people think powerlifters are the fat guys in the gym who using "powerlifting" as an excuse to be overweight. Thats like saying all bodybuilders only train pecs and arms and never squat.

Perhaps a few of these people will look at that pic of Kaz and question their own opinions.
 
BIGEDD said:
This really fuckin pissed me off and i think weight and power lifters are fat little shits!!!!!!!!

WOW.....are you for real?....I agree that they are quite different then body building. Only personal opinions will deteremine which you feel is more difficult. I lift with a power lifter, and the mental, physical, and yes even nutritional stamina he maintains is remarkable.

Personally, I'd take a powerlifter or a weight lifter anyday over a body builder. I like 'em big and I like 'em strong. And I like them to be able to have a beer with me too:)

P.S. Kaz is a little shit....lol....pleeaazz!
 
Re: Re: **In the gym the other day it f~#kin pissed me off wghlftr& pwrlftr said**

AGENT SHAGWELL said:


Personally, I'd take a powerlifter or a weight lifter anyday over a body builder. I like 'em big and I like 'em strong. And I like them to be able to have a beer with me too:)


I'm your man;)

:beer:
 
luke69 said:
correct me if i am wrong but that is not kaz-it looks like john paul sigminson to me,Luke

Nope it's all Kaz. I guess with the ponytail it kinda looks like John Paul...though I don't think he ever got as "ripped" as that.

Here's the link if you're interested...

http://www.mcshane-enterprises.com/ASL/kaz.html

BTW...Thanks Shags I knew that you could add a female perspective to this thread. Powerlifters don't always go home alone.
 
i stand corrected. john paul also had a great physic. he was pretty ripped in his prime.hannibal, that pic of louie makes me what to go squat every time i see it. i would love to go train with the west side guys but i hear they don't let just anyone into their gym,Luke
 
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