IMPORTANT: Studies are False and Misleading!

[Mr.X]

Don't lie Mr. X, you just started this because the DaVinci Code movie was coming out and you needed something to promote your theory that the templar knights are infact responsible for the worldwide pharmaceutical conspiracy.

It's the daughter of the food industry, that's the holy grail lol

 

[Guvna]

My take on studies.

What happens is Company A hires another research lab independent of them to test the product on their target. This could be any number of things. Now, here is where the crap really pisses me off. Because Company A is funding the research at the independent research lab, they control if and when that study becomes public. If it ever does, Yea that’s right, they have the option of not submitting that study if the findings do not work for the benefit of the product.

Here is the really sad part. Hundreds of study could be performed by legitimate unbiased labs and 99% of them could have the findings that the drug in question is bad for you. Only one of the studies having some benefit of said product. Because Company A funded those studies, they own the rights to them. Those 99% will never see the light of day nor does Company A have the obligation to even tell you about them. No one in the public eye will ever see them.

All you hear about is that one study. Now this doesn't make the study false by any means. What it means is that Company A has dropped a ton of money on this product and has to try and recoup it somehow. This comes at your expense because you haven’t a clue about the other studies. Company A will most likely have a disclaimer on the bottle. This may cause this that or the other. When I the possibility could be 1 in 100 people will suffer from one of the serious side effects listed. If the company were to let you know that, you would not chance taking it. So you get a watered down disclaimer.

Sorry for taking this a bit further I may sound a bit jaded in this post. I just think you have to look for more than just studies
And this has absolutely no bearing on any study posted Just some thoughts of a rambling old man

+1

Also,

Corruption and bribes are in every facet of life. There are lies in everything, but that does not mean everything is a lie. Take them with a grain of salt, but studies can be very useful.

 

[lanky]

+1

Also,

Corruption and bribes are in every facet of life. There are lies in everything, but that does not mean everything is a lie. Take them with a grain of salt, but studies can be very useful.

a valid statement...but that is just my opinion

 

[justinjones1963]

There is a huge problem in academia concerning publications - people write articles simply for the sake of gettting something published - not for the sake of research. This is endemic not only in medicine but also in business and other academic circles. 90% of the much I am forced to read is total BS.

Another problem is that people have political agendas. You can throw objectivity out the window in many cases. Both problems combined lead to 90% of the BS out there as being worthless.

 

[lanky]

There is a huge problem in academia concerning publications - people write articles simply for the sake of gettting something published - not for the sake of research. This is endemic not only in medicine but also in business and other academic circles. 90% of the much I am forced to read is total BS.

Another problem is that people have political agendas. You can throw objectivity out the window in many cases. Both problems combined lead to 90% of the BS out there as being worthless.

90% BS,,,you must be refering to political science publications..lol,,just kidding...couldnt help myself on that one.

 

[Mr.X]

There is a huge problem in academia concerning publications - people write articles simply for the sake of gettting something published - not for the sake of research. This is endemic not only in medicine but also in business and other academic circles. 90% of the much I am forced to read is total BS..

A lot of BS out there. I'm hoping EF members read and learn on their own - the best tool is experience, not some pubmed study.

 

[GymIntensity]

I see 3 main things going on with this macro/X debate/debacle.

1. Mr. X loooovvvvesssss him some Letro

2. MAC loooovvvveeessss him some AIFM, as well as AIFM sales ;-)

3. Arimidex is just getting shit on and being left out. Where does it add in?!??!?1


LOL........

 

[Anthony Roberts]

Sometimes studies can start you on the road to figuring something out, or they can confirm a theory- but you're not going to really know shit until you put the theory into practice.

My PCT article was good, in theory; but I didn't publish it until I tested it out on 2 dudes, both of whom loved it and thought it was the best PCT they ever ran. Then I wrote the article. Studies are nothing, compared to actual results.

 

[used2juice]

Studies are nothing, compared to actual results.

That pretty much sums it up.

 

[Outtlaw]

The worst thing is when people break out those fucking little graphs they made with their scientific calculators to use as scientific reasearch to show how drugs act while inside the human body.