Importance of receptor site cleaning

[marvelous54]

I understand the science behind recptor site cleaning but I have to say I think it is overrated. Most say time on = time off is "required" to clean them. My problem with this philosophy is I know guys who have been juicing for years without a break and they still grow quite well. What is your opinion of the subject?

 

[gqstiles]

Well, just think back to your first cycle. Everyone talks about a 20, 30, 40 lb gain!!! I personally was able to get a 25lb gain on 250mg Sust/200mg Deca week for 10 weeks. Never again was I to repeat these type of gains even with an increase in dosage and 10 - 20 weeks off. I think 4 - 6 weeks off (from a short 8-10 wk cycle) is plenty to get your natural hormone levels back up. Short cycles will give you good gains (15lb +/-) and not leave your natural hormone levels at ground zero. Keep those natural hormone levels in check and everything will be ok!!! Even though you will not get the huge gains when on, you will also not suffer a huge loss when you get off. In the long run you will make it to the finish line first.

 

[Ulter]

You can't clean your receptor sites.

gg the reason you were never able to do it again is because you used the steroids to push you past your genetic limit to a certain point. Without using doses that would push you the same distance further you can't duplicate the first cycle. The same goes for what you might lose coming off.

When you use AS you change the activity in your genes. So in effect you're actually changing your genetics. When you change the gene activity with AS it in turn increases protein synthesis. That's the result. That's all it does.
If you use a certain amount of AS you change your genetics by a certain amount. There is your gains. But then you take away the AS and you will return your genetics to what they were originally. There is your loss.
The amount you keep or do not keep is governed by how much past your genetic limit the AS took you.

 

[MR. BMJ]

Anybody remember that cockdezl post where he layed the smack down on TwistedSteel about "receptor Cleaning?"

That was an all-time great thread...funny as all hell.

It's hard to find...in fact, I haven't been able to find it for some time.

BMJ

 

[sd27bb]

You can't clean your receptor sites.

gg the reason you were never able to do it again is because you used the steroids to push you past your genetic limit to a certain point. Without using doses that would push you the same distance further you can't duplicate the first cycle. The same goes for what you might lose coming off.

When you use AS you change the activity in your genes. So in effect you're actually changing your genetics. When you change the gene activity with AS it in turn increases protein synthesis. That's the result. That's all it does.
If you use a certain amount of AS you change your genetics by a certain amount. There is your gains. But then you take away the AS and you will return your genetics to what they were originally. There is your loss.
The amount you keep or do not keep is governed by how much past your genetic limit the AS took you.

So i take it you do not beleave that once you introduce AS into your system, the body adjusts by upregulating its catabolic chemistry to reach homeostasis? In my experience, just taking 2 weeks off from your cycle and then restarting with an identical one allows for continued progress. More over if what you say is true then why cant you just give a newbie 4g of gear per week (or whatever pros take these days) and have him reach their status from just one cycle?

 

[mgoblue4you]

"More over if what you say is true then why cant you just give a newbie 4g of gear per week (or whatever pros take these days) and have him reach their status from just one cycle?"

Even if you have sufficient genetics the human body can only grow so fast.

I suppose that if the "one 4g cycle" lasted several years one could get quite big, but there may be consequences.

While I don't buy the whole "cleansing" theory, rotating compounds *does* seem to make a difference...

 

[solidspine]

It is imperative to clean those sites at least once every 40-50 years,

I am planning to clean my sites in about 15 years

Going to use a hover vacuum cleaner

 

[Ulter]

So i take it you do not beleave that once you introduce AS into your system, the body adjusts by upregulating its catabolic chemistry to reach homeostasis? In my experience, just taking 2 weeks off from your cycle and then restarting with an identical one allows for continued progress. More over if what you say is true then why cant you just give a newbie 4g of gear per week (or whatever pros take these days) and have him reach their status from just one cycle?

Yes myostatin will always control how big you grow. Steroids or not. It generally takes 8 weeks for your body to catch up and slow you down.
If you think taking 2 weeks off does you some good then do it.

A newbie should use 1000mg+ on a first cycle. 4000mg will overpower the AI and lead to unwanted side effects. Gains to doses are not on a straight line as long as you have myostatin regulating your growth. Pros only grow an average of 9 pounds of LBM (see: Ronnie Coleman) per year, using those doses.

 

[caustin]

You mean Ronnie juices? What the hell man

 

[Quadsweep]

Yes myostatin will always control how big you grow. Steroids or not. It generally takes 8 weeks for your body to catch up and slow you down.
If you think taking 2 weeks off does you some good then do it.

A newbie should use 1000mg+ on a first cycle. 4000mg will overpower the AI and lead to unwanted side effects. Gains to doses are not on a straight line as long as you have myostatin regulating your growth. Pros only grow an average of 9 pounds of LBM (see: Ronnie Coleman) per year, using those doses.

1000mg+ Ulter...don't make me! I am to tired to argue...you are safe...for now!


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