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[Strongbow]

Have you read the koran?

I have read the koran 5 times
I have also read the bible and the torat (jewish book)

The koran says nothing about killing people...the only thing it says about that is that it is wrong

seriously before you make broad statements you should learn about something

It also mentions that God is forgiving and in talks about Prophet Mohammad, it mentions a story that the prophet has a Jew neighbor who used to see him every morning when they both took out the trash and used to say good morning to each other. One day, when the jewish neighbor didnt take out the trash, the prophet got worried, so he took out his neighbor's trash and visited the neighbor at home to make sure he was ok....does that sound unjust to you?

Also, just so you get your facts straight, a long time ago, Christians used to marry young girls so they can help keep them off the streets

The Prophet married a young girl so he can teach her religion and get her off the street.....this happened in all cultures in those times, not just Islam. Girls used to be married off at 10....promised to a man for their husbands to raise em, including devout christians...I have studied both faiths and I know enough about both religions to know you know very little about either.

I mean not to offend you either bro, nor am I calling you ignorant, i'm just saying I urge you to read and ask about it before you make vast statements like that.

Plank marries young girlz, is he a prophet??

 

[Ezekiel]

If your a devout Christian what do you care about Islam for.

What do I care? They are ppl of the book! My faith requires me to laove everyone, not just those on the "saved list"!!

 

[the_alcatraz]

If your a devout Christian what do you care about Islam for.

Thank you for making my point.

 

[ledhead]

What do I care? They are ppl of the book! My faith requires me to laove everyone, not just those on the "saved list"!!

I realise that bro, you should love your enemies, and make no mistake about it their our
enemies. I have to go to class, later i will explain how they are our enemies. It goes
back to Abraham.

It just seemed like you were agreeing with him in his doctrine. That's a no-no in the
Christian realm.

later... I'm going to get the led out!

 

[Ezekiel]

Bro, i read both religions. I have a minor in theology<doesn't mean I'm an expert. The koran also mentions jesus was born of a virgin, but they don't like that part.
History say's mohammed was a blood thirsty man! it's true bro. Bro to say i know little about both religions is just absurd, you should know more about islam then me
but I warrent you, you don't know more about the bible then me! Could you please enlighten me and show me in the bible where a man married a 10 yr old girl< can't do it!
maybe thirteen when their child bearing. how does that justify Mohammed having a harem and a nine year old wife. come on bro! Please!

Talking about you read the bible I'm sure you took for what it literally said, The New Testament was witten in Greeek. You have to understand how the greek language is set updifferent
from the English.For starter, the syntax is different then the English there paradoxes, connotations, ellipses' through out it. The Book of Revelations was written in a cryptic manner.
Which would take years of diligent study to understand. On that note I'm going to venture to say what you read in the bible you tottaly misconstrued.

Actually, i didn't make a broad statement it's the muslims doing the majority of the violence not christians. Where does this stuff come from the more infidels you kill the greater reward you get
in heaven. I don't know! But rest assure i'm going to find out. I have a copy of the koran I'm going to read it again.

Again, no offense taken from you calling me ingnorant, hope none taken from what I said.

I have a MS in History, thesis was on the Crusades.... father was a PAstor as was his father... Save the rhetoric bro! You clearly have no idea what your talking about most of the time...You clearly seem more interested in winning, then the truth! If you would like to have a BIBICAL DEBATE then I would be more then happy to accomadate you in PM's not here!! Scolding you and correcting publicly would only embarrase the two of us!!

Jesus calls us to love other, nothing more!!!

sorry for my part in the thread hyjacking

 

[the_alcatraz]

First off we must of got off track what the post was about illegal immigation.
Your right the majority are Hispanic, I'm not going to argue blacks commit the most crimes(fact) not my opinion.

Is my view of Islam really skewed? Like i stated before about Mohammed he was a blood
thirsty man according to the koran. He had a nine year old wife WTF! Jesus talked peace
and didn't fondle little girls. I told you the story about T jefferson dealing with the king of
Libya. he didn't want to resolve a peacful solution. He told him your an infidel I'm allowed
to kill you. Does that sound like a peacful faith? Jefferson tryed to use tact and diplomacy,
and avoid conflict, the king of Libya didn't want to hear it. Like we got going on today.

Look bro, i"m not trying to offend any muslim, all i know is the koran talks about killing the
infidels (white people) or non-islamics. if your a true muslim your going to go by what the koran says. IMO islam is not a peaceful faith, sorry! not trying to offend you one iota.

Then again I been known to be wrong!

LOL at you thinking you know more about Islam that I do....where did you learn about Islam, in a North American university??

I learned through sheikhs in the middle east...who do you think will know more about it?

Also, in Islam, Jesus is born through a virgin - his mother...who said we don't like that?? are you kidding? lol....your information is not credible at all.....the only difference is Islam believes that Jesus is a prophet but he's only a man....while Christians state that he is the son of God....thats the diff.

Anyways, lets put an end to the argument about religion

Let's take this thread back on topic please.

 

[Ezekiel]

I realise that bro, you should love your enemies, and make no mistake about it their our
enemies. I have to go to class, later i will explain how they are our enemies. It goes
back to Abraham.

It just seemed like you were agreeing with him in his doctrine. That's a no-no in the
Christian realm.

later... I'm going to get the led out!

I don't need you to explain anything to me...Just how arrogant are you? They are not the enemies silly boy! Ignorance is the enemy!! Hatred is the enemy!!

Agreeing w/ him? He hasn't mentioned anything about doctrine...

The Devil called and he wants his old job back of turning ppl away from God! It seems you've stolen it!

 

[stosstruppe]

LOL at you thinking you know more about Islam that I do....where did you learn about Islam, in a North American university??

I learned through sheikhs in the middle east...who do you think will know more about it?

You don't feel scholars would have access to the same materials - for both faiths - regardless if they were were Western or Arabic?

Or are you inferring Western scholars are incapable of impartial study towards Islam (actual scholars, not some fanny that spent 2 years "studying" it in between all the drinking and whoring at college)?

 

[the_alcatraz]

You don't feel scholars would have access to the same materials - for both faiths - regardless if they were were Western or Arabic?

Or are you inferring Western scholars are incapable of impartial study towards Islam (actual scholars, not some fanny that spent 2 years "studying" it in between all the drinking and whoring at college)?

I didnt say that. I just believe that the media really affects the way "scholars" look at the entire faith.

 

[gotmilk]

Are you a native American?

Yes, my penis is Passamaquoddy