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krbn08

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I'm wanting to test a UG lab . .

How much would it cost to test a pill from a UG lab to see what's really in it?

Could i get in trouble for testing the pill and seeing if it's a steroid or not?
 
krbn08 said:
I'm wanting to test a UG lab . .

How much would it cost to test a pill from a UG lab to see what's really in it?

Could i get in trouble for testing the pill and seeing if it's a steroid or not?
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what brand?
 
needtogetaas said:
whats the prob you thinking its not real bro.
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I believe in knowing what i'm putting into my body . .

With these UG labs no one really knows what's in it.

I also feel that the effects i'm getting right now should

be more pronounced. I'm upping my Dianabol to 50mg today.

I'm just really starting to question these UG's.
 
krbn08 said:
I believe in knowing what i'm putting into my body . .

With these UG labs no one really knows what's in it.

I also feel that the effects i'm getting right now should

be more pronounced. I'm upping my Dianabol to 50mg today.

I'm just really starting to question these UG's.
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Isn't this your first cycle?

What do you have to compare it to?
 
Why not just pay the extra for pharma grade and be sure then? I would doubt any legal implications however. It isn't worth anyone's time to bust you for two dbol tabs.

krbn08 said:
I believe in knowing what i'm putting into my body . .

With these UG labs no one really knows what's in it.

I also feel that the effects i'm getting right now should

be more pronounced. I'm upping my Dianabol to 50mg today.

I'm just really starting to question these UG's.
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i think that is what he is getting at, i thnk he wanted the magic pill to get the Ronnie Coleman look in a matter of weeks. i think he doesnt understand this isnt a magic trick one day you are normal and the next you are ripped. maybe after a period of a few cycles and some maturity he will get what he wants from 2 weeks into this cycle, i dont know just a thought
 
I think its a good idea to ensure what you are putting into your body is actually what you think you are.

If it costs $100 to find out excactly what is in the amp or tab then its a small price to pay against how much time effort and money you invest into your body.

I would get it tested and use:

http://www.srcslab.com/

[email protected]

If it comes bacl 100% real then great. If it does not then you can adjust your dosage to match what mg it is or if bunk you can not take at all.

Personally anything that is not pharm grade i test

Wrongun!
 
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I read something about how to test D-bol is to get some battery acid from like a car battery and put some dbol and acid in a glass cup and if it turned red then its real or something like that. Do a search im sure you can find something along those lines.
 
lightemup82 said:
I read something about how to test Dianabol - methandrostenolone - is to get some battery acid from like a car battery and put some Dianabol - methandrostenolone - and acid in a glass cup and if it turned red then its real or something like that. Do a search im sure you can find something along those lines.
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That sounds like something Macgyver would come up w/. hehe
 
^^^ good post Wrongun!! I don't see why folks are busting balls because I guy wants to find out if what he paid for IS indeed what he paid for!! it was a simple question that should have had a simple answer!! I myself want to test the labs that I'm gonna use... especially seeing as I'm going with smaller, lesser known domestic labs!!

btw wrongun where are those labs at?? and how do you check with them?? can you just call them after so many days?? I wouldn't want them to know me directly!!
 
needtogetaas said:
hmmmmm good ??? bro.
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I just think it's a common misconception of people that have never cycled before to think that they will totally transform their body immediately just because they are now taking steroids, but those who have been around know that that is just not the case.
 
If he has it tested then he will know exactly what he has and then he can judge using a reference base point.

Many base on past experience but were we 100% confident we were taking exactly what it said on the tin?

I think he has the right approach. Test - be sure - be safe - ensure he treats his body with the respect its due

Maybe i am too cuatious who knows but $100 seems a small price to me to know exactly what i am putting in my body

Wrongun!
 
Papa Lion said:
^^^ good post Wrongun!! I don't see why folks are busting balls because I guy wants to find out if what he paid for IS indeed what he paid for!! it was a simple question that should have had a simple answer!! I myself want to test the labs that I'm gonna use... especially seeing as I'm going with smaller, lesser known domestic labs!!

btw wrongun where are those labs at?? and how do you check with them?? can you just call them after so many days?? I wouldn't want them to know me directly!!
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Yes they are well known

i will PM you the addy bro. Many of the lab reports posted are from there

Wrongun!
 
hey here's another q for ya Wrongun... if you want a multi vial tested can you just pull a bit out in a syring and have it tested or is there a procedure for that?? as most UG labs aren't dealing in amps!!
 
Wrongun said:
If he has it tested then he will know exactly what he has and then he can judge using a reference base point.

Many base on past experience but were we 100% confident we were taking exactly what it said on the tin?

I think he has the right approach. Test - be sure - be safe - ensure he treats his body with the respect its due

Maybe i am too cuatious who knows but $100 seems a small price to me to know exactly what i am putting in my body

Wrongun!
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The problem is that regular tests need to be taken not just one.
Testing a UG one time doesn't prove anything, due to the inconsistency of UG's.
 
Papa Lion said:
hey here's another q for ya Wrongun... if you want a multi vial tested can you just pull a bit out in a syring and have it tested or is there a procedure for that?? as most UG labs aren't dealing in amps!!
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No you have to send the full vial as far as i know with that lab

Contact them i have sent you the details and sure they will go through it with you.

Also if you contact Pred or Baywatch from MT they send a lot to be tested there and know them better as they post the results on their site

Wrongun!
 
Mac173 said:
The problem is that regular tests need to be taken not just one.
Testing a UG one time doesn't prove anything, due to the inconsistency of UG's.
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Agree with you 100%

For me if using a UG lab for porducts not available in pharm grade (i.e. EQ or tren) then i get all tested every time. e.g. if planning to do tren then i would buy and have tested. If 1 year later or even 6 months was going to do same would again buy and again test.

Yes can be expensive but i know exactly what i am putting into my body with regards dosage and product.

This is not for everyone and certainly not cost effective but if i have to use a UG lab then again i measure against the time and money i have invested into my body against $100 - $200 there is not contest for me anyway

With some of the results i have had then only takes 1 highly over dosed, underdosed or bunk test to come back to make it very worthwhile.

if all came back on the money then i am still very happy

Wrongun!
 
Wrongun said:
Agree with you 100%

For me if using a UG lab for porducts not available in pharm grade (i.e. Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - or trenbolone) then i get all tested every time. e.g. if planning to do trenbolone then i would buy and have tested. If 1 year later or even 6 months was going to do same would again buy and again test.

Yes can be expensive but i know exactly what i am putting into my body with regards dosage and product.

This is not for everyone and certainly not cost effective but if i have to use a UG lab then again i measure against the time and money i have invested into my body against $100 - $200 there is not contest for me anyway

With some of the results i have had then only takes 1 highly over dosed, underdosed or bunk test to come back to make it very worthwhile.

if all came back on the money then i am still very happy

Wrongun!
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Why don't you post up these results for everyone to see?
I would like to get some of my stuff tested but I just can't afford it at this time.
 
srcs will let you send them a minimum of 2ml. its 100$ per compound. this is what i was told by srcs last week when i contacted them. they will test to se whats in it and mg per ml.
 
Mac173 said:
Isn't this your first cycle?

What do you have to compare it to?
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It's not really a comparison at all . .

I always think back and picture a drug dealer giving me exactly what i asked

for through the mail . . :rolleyes: The thing is . . i doubt they would.
 
krbn08 said:
I'm wanting to test a UG lab . .

How much would it cost to test a pill from a UG lab to see what's really in it?

Could i get in trouble for testing the pill and seeing if it's a steroid or not?
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How old are you?
 
krbn08 said:
17
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Oh. I thought maybe you were older. My buddy brought some gear to a lab and said he found it in is sons room and believed it to be aas and wanted to have it tested to make sure.
 
Mac173 said:
Why don't you post up these results for everyone to see?
I would like to get some of my stuff tested but I just can't afford it at this time.
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I am in the UK and we enjoy far different laws than you do in the USA. This means we are able to use universities etc to obtain lab results from students that attend. These results are conducted for the user only and not the general public for obvious reasons.

Also as you already stated UG labs consistancy and quality are likely to change from batch to batch =- vial to vial so they would be just about useless to you anyway unless you had the same UG lab and batch?

With regards cost then speaking only for myself. If i could not afford to test the product before injecting into my body (UG labs) then i would not take until i could.

I realise that is not a view shared by many but one that i adhere too

Wrongun!
 
it's hardly economical to test UG gear, unless you're a total tool and brought several thousand dollars worth of it.

Powder, yes for sure as you have something that you'll be using for up to the next decade... when I found my guy's tren was 98% pure I figured he wouldn't be stiffing me on the cheaper hormones.
 
I'm editing those names out. Anyway there are two guys that post openly on here and they carry pharma grade. Both have websites that you can easily find. Look around.

krbn08 said:
Seriously bro, i would if i had the connections.
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Tweakle said:
it's hardly economical to test UG gear, unless you're a total tool and brought several thousand dollars worth of it.

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That is your opinion but then it depends what value you put on your body.

If you have invested god knows how much time, effort, diet, food, supps etc etc then want to invest a further $100 to test what you are about to inject to find out it was what you had thought and what the accurate dosaging in seems a small %age in retrospect.

It is all about opinion and what value you put to the knowledge of knowing exactly what is in the vial. Lets not kid ourselevs but many UG labs are people in kitchens.

I have posted this before but remember Zencall UG Lab? well here is a picture of their pharm grade set up when busted

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...ever-seen-underground-lab-zencall-384037.html

They had a great rep but what about the quality control issues and what was in each vial.

Speaking for myself i would rather spend that money and know before injecting into my body. If i could not afford it and it was nor economical i simply would not use any UG lab products

Wrongun!
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Personally I would never use any amount UG gear - people have this delusion it's made in a sterile lab somewhere when the reality is more like a dirty table in the back of a trailer and you have no idea what bubba's mixing up in his vials.

I know the sterility of my home lab, I know my stuff is double filtered, everything is scrubbed with bleach, baked until golden brown and served piping hot with a dash of BA.
 
lightemup82 said:
I read something about how to test Dianabol - methandrostenolone - is to get some battery acid from like a car battery and put some Dianabol - methandrostenolone - and acid in a glass cup and if it turned red then its real or something like that. Do a search im sure you can find something along those lines.
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that's seriously the most retarded thing I've ever read dude.

but entertaining.
 
Tweakle said:
it's hardly economical to test UG gear, unless you're a total tool and brought several thousand dollars worth of it.

Powder, yes for sure as you have something that you'll be using for up to the next decade... when I found my guy's trenbolone was 98% pure I figured he wouldn't be stiffing me on the cheaper hormones.
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I disagree, if ur taking tren and its fake or replaced with test u would know cuz tren is too powerful, but on a bottle of EQ 200, replacing it with 200mg of test E would be simply done
 
I have advocated the use of suplhuric acid to check Dbol in the past and actually done the test myself and seen the differing results.

I do not know what the scientific explanations is though. Does anyone else that is promoting this methodology. There are conflicting reports

http://www.saanabolicreview.co.za/dboltest.html

Wrongun!
 
Wrongun said:
I have advocated the use of suplhuric acid to check Dianabol - methandrostenolone - in the past and actually done the test myself and seen the differing results.

I do not know what the scientific explanations is though. Does anyone else that is promoting this methodology. There are conflicting reports
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I see no reason why sulphuric acid would react to testosterone or related hormones in this manner.

Color tests are generally very easy to explain and see the mechanism behind the reaction... if one cannot be easily found, that alone would put the theory on doubtful grounds.

And LOL @ "There is a simple way to satisfy yourself send it to a University Chemistry lab and ask then to test a sample tablet."

Don't EVER do that unless you want to see how quick you want to get arrested for distrubuting illegal drugs, lol. Even a RA wouldn't take the chance of getting kicked out of the program.
 
samoth said:
I see no reason why sulphuric acid would react to testosterone or related hormones in this manner.

Color tests are generally very easy to explain and see the mechanism behind the reaction... if one cannot be easily found, that alone would put the theory on doubtful grounds.

And LOL @ "There is a simple way to satisfy yourself send it to a University Chemistry lab and ask then to test a sample tablet."

Don't EVER do that unless you want to see how quick you want to get arrested for distrubuting illegal drugs, lol. Even a RA wouldn't take the chance of getting kicked out of the program.
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Thanks

So do you think the sulphuric acid test is no conclusive and will not determine if real or fake Dbol?

With regards the University Chemistry Lab thats exactly what we do in the UK LOL but do have far more understanding laws surrounding AAS than the USA

Wrongun!
 
instant.muscle said:
http://www.saanabolicreview.co.za/dboltest.html
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I know bro i posted that link as it states it does not work

I have always advocated the test and also seen it complete with what i thought was real and what i was 90% sure was fake. It came up with the right results

What i do not know is what is the chemistry behind it if indeed it does work and it was not pure luck so to speak?


Wrongun!
 
Wrongun said:
Thanks

So do you think the sulphuric acid test is no conclusive and will not determine if real or fake Dianabol - methandrostenolone - ?

With regards the University Chemistry Lab thats exactly what we do in the UK LOL but do have far more understanding laws surrounding anabolic androgenic steroids than the USA

Wrongun!
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Considering no one can seem to find any reason for the test to actually work, I find it odd that it got as popular as it is. I personally can't think of any reaction with steroid molecules that would have this effect. I mean, I could certainly be wrong here, but this kind of reaction just doesn't make sense. For those who've had a few years of upper-division chem that believe this, I'd be glad to hear what rxn you think takes place here.

Yeah, I don't know UK law for this kinda stuff, but if this happened around here, it'd be handed over to the UP in less than a day.
 
Is it the general consensus that the following picture is what we're talking about?

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If so, that really just looks like the left pill is beginning to dissolve into the solution... not really a color change per se.

Is this supposed to be an acid-base rxn, redox rxn, or even a chemical change? The binders make up a bulk of tablets, so that could make a pretty big difference with UG production of this stuff, too.
 
I think it is like the drano test for pregnant women. If it changes to this color it is a boy or this color it is a girl. I doubt that test has any merit.

needtogetaas said:
nope he is right bro.
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samoth said:
Considering no one can seem to find any reason for the test to actually work, I find it odd that it got as popular as it is. I personally can't think of any reaction with steroid molecules that would have this effect. I mean, I could certainly be wrong here, but this kind of reaction just doesn't make sense. For those who've had a few years of upper-division chem that believe this, I'd be glad to hear what rxn you think takes place here.

Yeah, I don't know UK law for this kinda stuff, but if this happened around here, it'd be handed over to the UP in less than a day.
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I agree totally. As i say i have done the test and a tab that failed all the usual tests i.e. taste, crush & mastication so fully suspected to be fake and one that passed all the usual tests and fully expected to be real.

When using the suphuric acid test i got very similar results as those shown in the picture. Without any real reason and because i had read others advocated i took as read i.e. valid. Its only when i questioned the chemistry behind the test i could not find any real substance as you say

i do not know if the test results are because of different binders used that react differently but even with my limited chemistry knowledge i can not establsih a reason how it would show active ingredient against a tab that does not which you seem to agree with.

I can only conclude the test is flawed but can not answer why when i did myself it gave the results i was expecting.

Needto and Instant Muscle what are your thoughts as both you said it was accurate or is it, like me, what you have come to believe through others?

Thanks for your input Samoth if you find anything else out i would be grateful but think we have to conclude the test is flawed would you agree?

Wrongun!
 
there are labs that will test anonamously, I used to use them back in the day for recs.
Don't ask me where, I am out of that game.
 
What we should do is get the UG labs to send someone a bottle and we test them and see where they stand. I know some people in the uk do that everyone chips in and they all get to see the results.
 
thats what i got from it, still 50mg dbol is crazy at 17 shouldn't even be touching aas yet. (though im not one to be speaking im only a year older)
 
b_light said:
thats what i got from it, still 50mg Dianabol - methandrostenolone - is crazy at 17 shouldn't even be touching anabolic androgenic steroids yet. (though im not one to be speaking im only a year older)
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I believe these UG's are underdosing their products.

I'm guessing that my 50mg of Dianabol is actually a

rough 15-20mg (not sure) with aspirin as a filler.

That's just my feelings about it.
 
thats kinda wierd bro cuz Im usin mwm winny tabs right now, they are 25 mg and I am taking 50mg a day for last 3 weeks, and they are gooooood tooooo goooooooo!
 
Just find a buddy in upper level chemistry courses. Chances are he or she will be proficient in NMR and HPLC if nothing else.
 
Wrongun said:
I know bro i posted that link as it states it does not work

I have always advocated the test and also seen it complete with what i thought was real and what i was 90% sure was fake. It came up with the right results

What i do not know is what is the chemistry behind it if indeed it does work and it was not pure luck so to speak?


Wrongun!
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wrongun - can you link me to the testing section on www.muscletalk.co.uk??
 
Mavafanculo said:
wrongun - can you link me to the testing section on www.muscletalk.co.uk??
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There is not one bro

A couple of members from MT set up a new board that primarily tests products from money donated by memebers. They have a voting system that picks the next product to be tested. One then buys from a distributor and they send it to SCRS and post the results for the members.

Not sure if i can post lings to other boards (they are not a source website) but not sure if that is of as this is Elite and it would be non paid advertising.

If a Mod can say it is ok i will post the link. If not then will mail it over to you

Wrongun!
 
Wrongun said:
There is not one bro

A couple of members from MT set up a new board that primarily tests products from money donated by memebers. They have a voting system that picks the next product to be tested. One then buys from a distributor and they send it to SCRS and post the results for the members.

Not sure if i can post lings to other boards (they are not a source website) but not sure if that is of as this is Elite and it would be non paid advertising.

If a Mod can say it is ok i will post the link. If not then will mail it over to you

Wrongun!
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yeah pm it bro - I'll definately contribute.

I get the impression that UG stuff started getting weaker in the last few months as they got squeezed for inventory with the china situation. want to see if thats really the case
 
bbkingpin said:
You could've saved the lab tests costs by paying extra for human grade, etc.
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Agreed mate and i am fortunate to be in the Uk where pharm grade is still prominent. Unfortunately it does not cover my requirements for EQ, Tren etc so i think UG lab will always have a place (as long as they are still here).

Wrongun!
 
Mavafanculo said:
yeah pm it bro - I'll definately contribute.

I get the impression that UG stuff started getting weaker in the last few months as they got squeezed for inventory with the china situation. want to see if thats really the case
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Done sent


Wrongun!
 
mojeas95 said:
thats kinda wierd bro cuz Im usin mwm Winstrol - stanozolol tabs right now, they are 25 mg and I am taking 50mg a day for last 3 weeks, and they are gooooood tooooo goooooooo!
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No offense, but i don't listen to people trying to promote UG's because

the suppliers could be on this site telling everyone what's good and what's not

with multiple accounts. I know it may sound stupid, but that's how i feel about it.

Alot of people on this forum talk out of their ass too . .

I trust very few members on here. If you read these forums for awhile you'll

realize that everyone just repeats information that someone else told them who has been

here longer and is considered a vet (which is bullshit).
 
krbn08 said:
No offense, but i don't listen to people trying to promote UG's because

the suppliers could be on this site telling everyone what's good and what's not

with multiple accounts. I know it may sound stupid, but that's how i feel about it.

Alot of people on this forum talk out of their ass too . .

I trust very few members on here. If you read these forums for awhile you'll

realize that everyone just repeats information that someone else told them who has been

here longer and is considered a vet (which is bullshit).
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:rolleyes:

I have used MWM for a few cycles now and I am actually on cycle rite now and everything I have used is top notch. But hey I guess I am just repeating what someone else said?

what does ur cycle look like? are u eating properly sleeping properly? lifting?
I would nt reccomend using AAS at 17, but hey we were all fucking know it alls at the age so I can t blame u...
 
krbn08 said:
No offense, but i don't listen to people trying to promote UG's because

the suppliers could be on this site telling everyone what's good and what's not

with multiple accounts. I know it may sound stupid, but that's how i feel about it.

Alot of people on this forum talk out of their ass too . .

I trust very few members on here. If you read these forums for awhile you'll

realize that everyone just repeats information that someone else told them who has been

here longer and is considered a vet (which is bullshit).
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Looks like you got it all figured out.
 
I would definately pay $100 to test something I was putting my body, I'd probably even pay upwards of $500, isn;t it worth it to know aht you are truly taking?
 
Wrongun said:
Needo would like your thoughts on the suplphuric acid debate though

Wrongun!
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well A wile back when satch was around I got some dbol from him that I thought was fake.I did the test with the acid...I cut open a ++A and shot the acid in the cup with the powder...nothing terned red....I then went an got some bd dbol from well you know and did the same thing...shore enough the bd dbol terned red as blood.
I knew the gtp was fake and I knew the bd was real and the test did confirm it...so I dont know the logic behind it but I know it worked for me.

also I have a lot of experience with dbol so I know when its no good and when its good.the gtp was total bunk just like I thought and the bd was as always the shit.......
 
bigcountry61 said:
:rolleyes:

I have used MWM for a few cycles now and I am actually on cycle rite now and everything I have used is top notch. But hey I guess I am just repeating what someone else said?

what does ur cycle look like? are u eating properly sleeping properly? lifting?
I would nt reccomend using anabolic androgenic steroids at 17, but hey we were all fucking know it alls at the age so I can t blame u...
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The only thing i have noticed from the Dianabol is a 10 lb weight gain . .

Which is why i believe it's a low dose of Dianabol with aspirin as a filler.

Sorry, i just don't trust drug dealers as easily as everyone else.

They're not trying to make you BIGGER, they're trying to make you think it's REAL.

So i just have this feeling they're underdosing everything. I'm on 50mg ed of Dianabol right now.

At 50mg ed the side effects should be amazing and scary, but they're not.
 
needtogetaas said:
well A wile back when satch was around I got some Dianabol - methandrostenolone - from him that I thought was fake.I did the test with the acid...I cut open a ++A and shot the acid in the cup with the powder...nothing terned red....I then went an got some bd Dianabol - methandrostenolone - from well you know and did the same thing...shore enough the bd Dianabol - methandrostenolone - terned red as blood.
I knew the gtp was fake and I knew the bd was real and the test did confirm it...so I dont know the logic behind it but I know it worked for me.

also I have a lot of experience with Dianabol - methandrostenolone - so I know when its no good and when its good.the gtp was total bunk just like I thought and the bd was as always the shit.......
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Well, that really doesn't mean anything. It could very well be binders or dye dissolving into the water -- nothing to do with active compounds in the tablets.
 
10 lbs is a noticable weight gain... I am stoked with 10lb weight gain. where r u in ur cycle? what is ur cycle?

Samoth that bug is fuckin cool I had to touch my screen to make sure it was nt real
 
bigcountry61 said:
10 lbs is a noticable weight gain... I am stoked with 10lb weight gain. where r u in ur cycle? what is ur cycle?

Samoth that bug is fuckin cool I had to touch my screen to make sure it was nt real
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Samoth got me on that one too...
 
krbn08 said:
The only thing i have noticed from the Dianabol is a 10 lb weight gain . .

Which is why i believe it's a low dose of Dianabol with aspirin as a filler.

Sorry, i just don't trust drug dealers as easily as everyone else.

They're not trying to make you BIGGER, they're trying to make you think it's REAL.

So i just have this feeling they're underdosing everything. I'm on 50mg ed of Dianabol right now.

At 50mg ed the side effects should be amazing and scary, but they're not.
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exactly.

if everyone would recognize their best interest, they'd join and contribute to a board that randomly and FREQUENTLY tests all the well known UGs. Its the only way.
 
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Why don't you find a domestic source that carries Naposims or Russian human grade Dianabol - methandrostenolone - even if it means coming up with a huge order to cover a huge minimum order amount? Why the hell would anyone trust a UG lab just based on anonymous hearsay on a bb'ing chat forum? Get human grade or the professionally run labs like BD, LSP, Stallion (at least their orals if you are afraid of poorly crimped vials). That piece of shit Satch sold me GTP but it was based on a recommendation from a then well respected mod. It looked like garbage in capsules and he is the one who started the human grade only campaign when he was pushing his Schering Primobolan - methenolone - (at 1g/week no less). The con jobs that have gone on in the past are one thing, but to be sucked in by a supposededly neutral mod (no longer here) really takes the cake.

Stay away from fly-by-night UG operations, no matter who vouches for them! Rearrange your cycle. Go with what ever human grade you can get and rearrrange your stack accordingly. Don't fall in love with the idea of a certain stack. As long as you know the shit is real, and it's creating an anabolic environment, training and eating is where your gains are going to some from anyway, so why not just stay away from questionable gear made by UG labs? PPl on forums have alter egos, multiple internet connections, multiple handles (thereby vouching for themselves).

Wake the hell up, play it safe, don't be "penny wise and dollar dumb." :)
 
krbn08 said:
The only thing i have noticed from the Dianabol is a 10 lb weight gain . .

Which is why i believe it's a low dose of Dianabol with aspirin as a filler.

Sorry, i just don't trust drug dealers as easily as everyone else.

They're not trying to make you BIGGER, they're trying to make you think it's REAL.

So i just have this feeling they're underdosing everything. I'm on 50mg ed of Dianabol right now.

At 50mg ed the side effects should be amazing and scary, but they're not.
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For one, 10lbs is more than enough since you don't seem to realize that 98% of that is excess water and is only making you look bloated and raising your BP.
What is used as a filler really doesn't even come into play here.
 
Mac173 said:
For one, 10lbs is more than enough since you don't seem to realize that 98% of that is excess water and is only making you look bloated and raising your BP.
What is used as a filler really doesn't even come into play here.
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I think he referred to Asprin as a filler due to it capability of helping to lower BP. Basically he is saying his suspisions are that if it were a true 50mg dose of Dbol he should realise more sides i.e. high blood pressure etc etc which he is not. I agree that is not the best measurement as everyone has a different tolerance and will realise different sides but that is one of the main reasons why he wants to have it tested

His reference to asprin as filler was IMHO ''tongue in cheek'' due to the lowering of BP capabilities. Obvioulsy it would not be used as a filler in any tab

Wrongun!
 
needtogetaas said:
I have ran 70mg ed Dianabol - methandrostenolone - with out bad sides.
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I have a strong tolerance to 17aa orals as well and never really realise sides but that can change from cycle to cycle. I ran many cycles using high dosage 17aa orals and thought minimum sides. I then had bloodwork done and actually realised the older i was getting the worse the ''unseen'' sides were getting i.e. enzyme count, blood pressure etc

With regards the back pains, pumps etc - nothing APART and this is the relevant part i used to get most of the common sides when i used the old pharm grade Russian Dbol 7-10 years ago. Never had the same from Anabol or the UG lab products. Is that my tolerance or change in med strength etc

Wrongun!
 
Wrongun said:
There is not one bro

A couple of members from MT set up a new board that primarily tests products from money donated by memebers. They have a voting system that picks the next product to be tested. One then buys from a distributor and they send it to SCRS and post the results for the members.

Not sure if i can post lings to other boards (they are not a source website) but not sure if that is of as this is Elite and it would be non paid advertising.

If a Mod can say it is ok i will post the link. If not then will mail it over to you

Wrongun!
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would that be pred's new thing? I saw a link to some new forum he had on his sig at MT
 
Wrongun said:
There is not one bro

A couple of members from MT set up a new board that primarily tests products from money donated by memebers. They have a voting system that picks the next product to be tested. One then buys from a distributor and they send it to SCRS and post the results for the members.

Not sure if i can post lings to other boards (they are not a source website) but not sure if that is of as this is Elite and it would be non paid advertising.

If a Mod can say it is ok i will post the link. If not then will mail it over to you

Wrongun!
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It seems relevant to the topic at hand, so I wouldn't take it as advertising at all.
 
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