I'm really not a dick

[jnevin]

 

[seaking420]

when there's a bigger outcry over atrocities committed against animals than there is for atrocities committed against people, the human race is doomed. . .it's a damn shame. . .we had a pretty good run. . .

110% agree with you BM and Lestat

Also there wasnt this much attention(or even jail time) to other athletes that have done or been part of terrible crimes like pacman jones, or lawrence phillips, or other athletes that have done far worse crimes than what Vick did. I guess its like what someone said here that the media gave him alot of attention when he came out of college which ended making him a star with many endorsements and now the media is taking it away.

 

[patsfan1379]

Fuck!!!! That dude is beating a dead horse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[jnevin]

Fuck!!!! That dude is beating a dead horse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's rampant in these parts.

 

[seaking420]

call the federalies

 

[gotmilk]

110% agree with you BM and Lestat

Also there wasnt this much attention(or even jail time) to other athletes that have done or been part of terrible crimes like pacman jones, or lawrence phillips, or other athletes that have done far worse crimes than what Vick did.

Not a swipe at you..but did you make any effort to check out both people you referenced?

Phillips is waiting for sentencing on his Strike 2 offense in California...a mandatory 20 years in prison. He violated parole, tried to kill three kids with his car, and has delayed sentencing. He cannot be formally sentenced until the judge hears his appeal on the parole violation. It's the difference between 4 years and 20 years he is facing.

One more offense....even something like a motor vehicle violation he Phillips gets life for Strike 3. Boy did he get off easy.

Look at Maurice Clarette. 7.5 year sentence...3.5 years mandatory before parole, and 5 years probation after.

 

[seaking420]

^^^ true, i didnt look into it. It was just off the top of my head.

But my point was that Vick is getting so much attention to this, more than phillips did/is. This probably has to do with the media and nothing else to cover

 

[ukkared]

Opinions are like ass holes, everybody has one

 

[gotmilk]

But my point was that Vick is getting so much attention to this, more than phillips did/is.

Vick's at the peak of his career....Phillips only had potential.

Like comparing Kobe Bryant's episode with Pervis Ellison getting busted for weed.

Like how people are all over Barry Bond's nuts but no one really cares about some of the doods who already tested positive. Anyone yapping about Rafeal Palmeiro anymore?

 

[mountain muscle]

Lestat...an article I just read you may find interesting....


Our hypocritical attitude toward animals and dogfighting
We revel in a culture of blood sports and eat meat, yet Vick takes the fall
COURTLAND MILLOY WASHINGTON POST

While eating a porterhouse the other night, I began to see the steak for what it was: a hunk of meat, blood and bone. I managed to disgust myself even more by imagining that a charbroiled piece of pit bull would not have looked much different from the gristle of beef on my fork.


Then I came to my senses and continued to enjoy my meal.


Too bad for Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick that people like me love dogs more than cows. Or, to put it another way, I prefer the taste of Angus and Hereford to Rottweiler and pit bull. Otherwise, the federal agents who recently charged Vick with dogfighting would have to arrest nearly all of us for participating in far worse acts of animal cruelty.


Ex-Beatle Paul McCartney is credited with having said, “If slaughterhouses had glass walls, everyone would be a vegetarian.” Well, they don’t – and most of us are carnivores. We’ll kill a duck, deer, turkey – name any meat – for the sheer entertainment of our palates or for the fun of the hunt.


Yet Vick, 27, must take the fall. Last Monday, the star athlete agreed to plead guilty to a single count of conspiracy. The admission could put him behind bars for five years and all but end his football career.


Make no mistake: I have no particular affinity for Vick. You can’t defend a guy who apparently gets his kicks watching dogs mangle one another and risks losing $100 million in NFL earnings and endorsements to boot. It’s just that all the hullabaloo about dogfighting seems hypocritical.


We revel in a culture of blood sports in which people and animals are pitted against one another. The knockout in boxing, the knockdown in football, the crashes at Daytona and Indianapolis – those are the draw. Without video images of tigers ripping the hides from zebras, cobras fighting mongooses and other bloody contests played out in the wild kingdom, the Discovery and National Geographic channels might as well go off the air.


Even our equestrian friends are not exempt from the cruelty of contest. Consider Barbaro, the horse that broke his leg during the Preakness Stakes last year.


“Caution: Tears will flow from watching Barbaro, the HBO Sports documentary,” TV critic Richard Sandomir wrote in the New York Times on June 6. Crocodile tears, maybe.


“Barbaro became a tragic hero whose injury reports were given like presidential health updates,” Sandomir wrote. But wait. Sandomir goes on to say the documentary’s producers “do not delve into why so few horses get Barbaro-level care when they break down.” Anybody care about that? “Like the other innocent animals we love, horses ‘trust us, live alongside us, honouring our many commands,’ the narrator, Liev Schreiber says,” Sandomir reported. “And when we ask them to – they run.”


And when they don’t, well, they die.


Barbaro’s leg could not be fixed, so he was euthanized. For many broken-down racehorses, that can mean anything from lethal injection to having their throats slit – killed just as surely as a wounded dog that can no longer fight.


Vick’s farm was raided by agents from the U.S. Department of Agriculture, the same USDA that permits the wholesale slaughter of cows, chickens, pigs and lambs.


Vick’s case ought to be handled by a state’s attorney, but it isn’t. He is being prosecuted by the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Eastern District of Virginia. You’d think the guy had been caught smuggling a ton of heroin in the carcasses of dead poodles. U.S. District Judge Henry Hudson is presiding. His previous experience includes hearing cases that involve people suspected of being Al-Qa’ida sympathizers or “enemy combatants.”


Perpetrators of gun violence ought to be taken so seriously.


According to data recently released by the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, nearly half of more than 10,000 guns recovered by law enforcement authorities in the Washington area came from Virginia. Hundreds, if not thousands, of people – human beings, not dogs – have been killed by these guns. But you won’t find any gun manufacturers – or even many killers, for that matter – being hauled into court on conspiracy charges.


Apparently, you have to be a dogfight promoter for that.

Wow, just wow.

Gun manufacturers. Dog fighting. Only an ignorant, liberal writer could make the connection.

When are we going to go after car manufacturers for the human lives lost in car crashes? Is the governement responsible as well because they built and paved the roads? What about the steel manufacturers? Well damn, then the oil companies are to blame for providing the gas to run the cars too. We don't need any responsibilty in this country as long as there is someone to blame eh?