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Lestat said:yeah, I think at some point you have to put a larger penalty out there or else what is to stop someone from never paying their tickets?
I think for the dog cruelty/fighting he should get some major fines and service work.
For the conspiracy/gambling, I'd do whatever other people have gotten punished for similar offenses and dollar amounts. I don't think there are a lot of people doing prison time for gambling rings that deal in the 25,000 range and below, but maybe I am wrong.
Also, this is his first offense right? Any other criminal record? Are there any "victims" at all in this crime? Anyone who can show damages? That was de frauded?
That is my big issue I guess. I've never been a fan of stiff penalties for "victimless crimes" which is what this is right?
If he had children kidnapped and fighting each other until the death and then executed them, I'd say life in prison (even the death penalty if I wasn't opposed to it on principle).
Is racketeering a victimless crime? Illegal gambling falls under that category.
He had to do with millions in dollars. Not 25K, well maybe per fight. You do the math.
You won't even acknowledge that a man with a 20 million/year contract with nike, not to mention signing bonus and salary decided to fund and run a dog fighting ring while torturing innocent animals trying to make money. But wait, it was only 25k! That makes it even worse.
Since 25k is no big deal, send me 25k.
What part do you not get? EVERYTHING he did was ILLEGAL. All you are thinking of was dogs.
How many animals have you tortured and killed while smoking pot?