Im New 2 Steroids Any Advice Plz

[silver_shadow]

england, this is crazy - where you are at right now, 26lbs of weight gain will probably seem impossible, yet, if you know how, you could get there. IMO the most important thing is that even though you don't plan on being very large, you could still lose alot of your gains from your cycle just because you don't know how to hang on to them once your done with the cycle. so while you are now thinking you'll do just one, you could very well end up repeating the whole thing again.

if you still insist on continuing with the orals route, then my suggestion would be to go with the anavar. although expensive (dbol is cheap everywhere BTW), the gains to sides ratio is amongst the best. dbol is pretty liver toxic and leads to more water gains than lean muscle gains on it's own. i've personally never done anavar, so i can't advise on how to use it, so you'll have to wait for someone else to chime in...

and again - my advice would rather be to stay away from steroids right now... make correct training and eating a part of your life first.

 

[blut wump]

England. First off don't be discouraged. Most of the guys here were messing with AAS right out of high school. Everyone trying to act all "wait and train" is bull shitting. Check it out, D'bol is not the best choice to start. Begin with low dosage of Test, and Deca, learn your PCT and respect Anti-E's. Do some research and then learn how to eat to grow.....

Some of us waited until our andropause and grew to 270 naturally.

England, if you've really decided to juice regardless of whether it's the best choice then go with injectibles. Spend a few months reading up on aromatase activity and the effects of the various hormones prior to sticking anything into yourself. You don't want to rush and screw up your first cycle.

Meanwhile, post up in the training forum and get onto a strength-based training program. At 40-60 minutes 3x per week, including cardio, your training sucks. If you jump on gear now, not only will you have a crappy first cycle but you'll lose anything you'd gain almost straight afterwards.

You need to learn to train and eat like a big guy to become a big guy. As BiggT mentioned, concentrate on the heavy, compound lifts, eat like food was cheap and drink lots of milk. Have a pint of milk with every meal. You'll grow.

Take yourself to the training forum, man. We'll get you underway and then you can manage a real kick-ass cycle or, maybe, you'll realise that you don't have any need of steroids just yet.

 

[drrman]

Some of us waited until our andropause and grew to 270 naturally.

England, if you've really decided to juice regardless of whether it's the best choice then go with injectibles. Spend a few months reading up on aromatase activity and the effects of the various hormones prior to sticking anything into yourself. You don't want to rush and screw up your first cycle.

Meanwhile, post up in the training forum and get onto a strength-based training program. At 40-60 minutes 3x per week, including cardio, your training sucks. If you jump on gear now, not only will you have a crappy first cycle but you'll lose anything you'd gain almost straight afterwards.

You need to learn to train and eat like a big guy to become a big guy. As BiggT mentioned, concentrate on the heavy, compound lifts, eat like food was cheap and drink lots of milk. Have a pint of milk with every meal. You'll grow.

Take yourself to the training forum, man. We'll get you underway and then you can manage a real kick-ass cycle or, maybe, you'll realise that you don't have any need of steroids just yet.

another excellent post by blut!

welloiled, listen to this guy!

 

[england111]

can u tell me if deca yellow top would be good to use with d-bol or anavar im considering the injections as well and can u tell me a good anti estrogen thats legal 2 use plz thanks.

 

[acneman]

can u tell me if deca yellow top would be good to use with d-bol or anavar im considering the injections as well and can u tell me a good anti estrogen thats legal 2 use plz thanks.

its obvious that your gonna juice no matter what i say
so
here is your first cycle
10 weeks
500mg tes enathate/week
aifm or liquidex for anti e
wait one week continueing your antie
pct hcg nolvadex
for three weeks
you already got the deca
fine 600mg firt week
300 mg/week week 2-8
add dostinex if you start gettin sides
and if you do that add 250mg tes to first week only
if it was my first cycle i would do excatly that

why do i say all this
it all here in the first 30 threads
read them
it will tell you the answer to your next question

how can i say this?????
cause you have not and will not ask a new question until you know more
since this thread started 2 more people have said "im new and i want to use steroids and i want to use orals cause i dont like needles." one of them weighs 135lbs, less than ten stone

it will tell you who agrees with the cycle i just mentioned and who thinks im an idiot
it will tell you the same answers sometimes 4 or 5 times

i told you to take 3/4 months perhaps i was overly optimistic

1 HOUR
is that too much? could you do something for one hour before you juice?
read. just read for one hour.

im not your father. do what you wanna
good luck

 

[resqguy]

can u tell me if deca yellow top would be good to use with d-bol or anavar im considering the injections as well and can u tell me a good anti estrogen thats legal 2 use plz thanks.

Being relatively new to this, I'm usually pretty patient when it comes to reading posts by other newbies. However, this one is just too painful to ignore. England, the majority of your questions can be answered by reading books, magazines and doing a little research online. Granted, there are a few questions that can be better explained by the guys here but everything else just takes a little motivation on your part. And speaking of motivation...based on reading your current training and diet program, motivation is something that you're lacking. Of course, you can play dumb and claim that you don't know any better. But any idiot with 5 dollars in his pocket can buy a book/magazine and read to gain a little knowledge. It sounds to me like you want the benefits without putting forth a little hard work and dedication. I think that's also evident by the fact that, at first, you were only willing to do orals...whatever. Bro, when I graduated High School, I was 152lbs. Fourteen years later, I weighed in NATURALLY at 200lbs at 10%BF. I'm about halfway through my first cycle and I'm making great gains. But more importantly, I'm glad I waited as long as I did. I feel that I had pretty much maxed out my genetic potential and decided to get "a little help." So listen to these guy when they tell you to focus on your training and your diet, and wait for AAS later...there's plenty of time. Skip the juice for now...your main concern should be eating, training and sleeping. Oh, and doing a little research on your own wouldn't hurt either. You can start by figuring out if it's safe to drink Winstrol.

 

[england111]

thanks 4 answering all my q's but that cycle is using way to many different things 2 what i was thinking. i dont want to get massive i just want a decent sized body with a nice shape using minimal steroids.
as im only 11 stone wanting to bump up 2 13stone what would u think about me doing very low doses of d-bol say i train 4 days a week on the 4 days i train i take 20mg of dbol and on the 3 days inbetween i only take 10mg reducing the side affects and not making it noticable that im taking roids. finishing with ???????????? to keep my gains while taking my creatine and protien shakes throughout.

 

[acneman]

its obvious that your gonna juice no matter what i say
so
here is your first cycle
10 weeks
500mg tes enathate/week
aifm or liquidex for anti e
wait one week continueing your antie
pct hcg nolvadex
for three weeks
you already got the deca
fine 600mg firt week
300 mg/week week 2-8
add dostinex if you start gettin sides
and if you do that add 250mg tes to first week only
if it was my first cycle i would do excatly that

why do i say all this
it all here in the first 30 threads
read them
it will tell you the answer to your next question

how can i say this?????
cause you have not and will not ask a new question until you know more
since this thread started 2 more people have said "im new and i want to use steroids and i want to use orals cause i dont like needles." one of them weighs 135lbs, less than ten stone

it will tell you who agrees with the cycle i just mentioned and who thinks im an idiot
it will tell you the same answers sometimes 4 or 5 times

i told you to take 3/4 months perhaps i was overly optimistic

1 HOUR
is that too much? could you do something for one hour before you juice?
read. just read for one hour.

im not your father. do what you wanna
good luck

few people get a second chance
heres yours

 

[resqguy]

thanks 4 answering all my q's but that cycle is using way to many different things 2 what i was thinking. i dont want to get massive i just want a decent sized body with a nice shape using minimal steroids.
as im only 11 stone wanting to bump up 2 13stone what would u think about me doing very low doses of d-bol say i train 4 days a week on the 4 days i train i take 20mg of dbol and on the 3 days inbetween i only take 10mg reducing the side affects and not making it noticable that im taking roids. finishing with ???????????? to keep my gains while taking my creatine and protien shakes throughout.

You're an idiot. You'll GET a "decent sized body" without D-Bol...JUST TRAIN HARD AND EAT RIGHT!!! But, you're going to do what you want so go eat a handfull of D-Bol and have a protein shake. I'm sure you'll make crazy gains on that 40 minute walk to work...dumbass...

 

[acneman]

You're an idiot. You'll GET a "decent sized body" without D-Bol...JUST TRAIN HARD AND EAT RIGHT!!! But, you're going to do what you want so go eat a handfull of D-Bol and have a protein shake. I'm sure you'll make crazy gains on that 40 minute walk to work...dumbass...

see i told u few get a second chance
im next resqguy
what do you have to say england