I'm never darting a combo blend again.....

[tonyroma]

So after my 30ml vial of prop exploded on the heater because their was no pin to release pressure I had to find a new replacement for the prop I lost. My buddy lend me his PBL blend of Test Prop, Tren Ace, and Masteron (prop), 100mg of each in 1cc. I thought i've tried it all until I felt the pain from this injection in my glute. Two days after my first shot (1cc) I couldn't even get out of bed, sit down in car, lift heavy on incline, or sleep on that side of my ass for 4 days. My basic procedure is always take a hot shower, warm up the vial, inject 20sec per cc, very steady, and massage area 20sec. I have to keep pinning with this for next 5 weeks. Any new/different advise I could use to help subdew this pain????

 

[52_21_30]

Sorry to hear that bro, but what did you expect? It's 3 different compunds @ 100 mg in 1 ml. Anything with those characteristics is gonna hurt like hell.

Btw, I was hearing a lot about that blend, mostly excitement, until everyone pinned it. You're not the only one who's writhing in pain, trust me.

 

[tonyroma]

Sorry to hear that bro, but what did you expect? It's 3 different compunds @ 100 mg in 1 ml. Anything with those characteristics is gonna hurt like hell.

Btw, I was hearing a lot about that blend, mostly excitement, until everyone pinned it. You're not the only one who's writhing in pain, trust me.

I figured it was gunna hurt, but hell, not as bad as 75mg inj of winny.... Like i seriously can't move that leg, no cardio, ruins my lifts. I really don't think it's worth the pain but i'm gunna stick it out. I'm thinkin of just doing 50mg ed rather than 100mg eod.

 

[52_21_30]

I'm telling you bro, LSP prop is painless. Best I've ever used. 100 mg ED no problem whatsoever. I'd go for that if you can.

 

[Mavafanculo]

I figured it was gunna hurt, but hell, not as bad as 75mg inj of winny.... Like i seriously can't move that leg, no cardio, ruins my lifts. I really don't think it's worth the pain but i'm gunna stick it out. I'm thinkin of just doing 50mg ed rather than 100mg eod.

lol - shoot me a PM what UG - I'm like a cripple after 3cc's Quad front load of 300mg/ml EQ from a new bottle

I literally have to lift my left leg in and out of the car and bed with 2 hands.

 

[marshallmadman]

Try a microwave heating pad after your injection. That helps big time. Also, try buying a vial of sterile oil and mix 50/50 with your gear. i.e. 1cc gear/1cc sterile oil. That should help a brotha out.

 

[DannoMight]

I've had something similar from bd prop alone. Icouldn't imagine 2 more compounds with that. I also had some stinging from a tren/prop(100/100) combe but wasn't as bad as bd. I also diluted it with a less painful gear like eq.

 

[tonyroma]

Try a microwave heating pad after your injection. That helps big time. Also, try buying a vial of sterile oil and mix 50/50 with your gear. i.e. 1cc gear/1cc sterile oil. That should help a brotha out.

Where do you go to get sterile oil? Kind/brand? Also how long do you leave your heating pad on for?? <<< how does this lessen the pain?

 

[marshallmadman]

I would try one of the research chem sites for sterile oil. I always use a microwave heating pad on the injection site after inject. It helps by drawing blood into the area and flushing the benzyl alcohol out of the area to where it gets eliminated from your body. How does your piss look and smell a few hours after your injection? That's benzyl alcohol being filtered and eliminated from your system.
I leave the pad on for about 10 minutes. It seriously helps. I also heat my syringe up with the same heating pad prior to injecting. It helps the gear flow easier, and keeps the pain at a minimum.

 

[tonyroma]

I would try one of the research chem sites for sterile oil. I always use a microwave heating pad on the injection site after inject. It helps by drawing blood into the area and flushing the benzyl alcohol out of the area to where it gets eliminated from your body. How does your piss look and smell a few hours after your injection? That's benzyl alcohol being filtered and eliminated from your system.
I leave the pad on for about 10 minutes. It seriously helps. I also heat my syringe up with the same heating pad prior to injecting. It helps the gear flow easier, and keeps the pain at a minimum.

thanx mang, i'll give the pad a shot

 

[tonyroma]

Try a microwave heating pad after your injection. That helps big time. Also, try buying a vial of sterile oil and mix 50/50 with your gear. i.e. 1cc gear/1cc sterile oil. That should help a brotha out.

What about diluting it with bacteriostatic water? http://www.ag-guys.com/store/product.php?productid=16151&cat=252

 

[marshallmadman]

Water and oil don't mix.

 

[DannoMight]

reasearchlabsupply carries sterile oil and eo also.

 

[Mrpumped]

Aside from doing everything everyone else said, you can also heat up the vial, this time with a pin in it, and keep an eye on it. About ten to fifteen minutes should do it.

 

[dline]

no pain no gain bro, its part of it. shit sucks. think of it as a small fly thats nagging you instead of a high hurdle that you cant even jump to get out of bed. maybe you were overexagerating it? but when the smoke clears at the end of the day of pounding out training in the gym, dont you feel more satisfied than if you stayed in bed all day. brush that shit off and lift some weight bro.



DLine

 

[tonyroma]

no pain no gain bro, its part of it. shit sucks. think of it as a small fly thats nagging you instead of a high hurdle that you cant even jump to get out of bed. maybe you were overexagerating it? but when the smoke clears at the end of the day of pounding out training in the gym, dont you feel more satisfied than if you stayed in bed all day. brush that shit off and lift some weight bro.



DLine

right........ how bout "why get pain, when you dont have to"
i'm gunna go brush my shoulder, pop my collar, and do some squat's without pain...




TRoma


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[Para_Shoot]

You know, I'm glad someone started this subject. I have been shooting every 4 days on one glute and 4 days after that on the other glute. Basically in the same area each time. Been doing this for a year. Using 100mg prop/200mg primo/200mg EQ in one pin, 3cc's total. It's gotten so that when I put needle into glute, no blood ever and feels like "crackle" when inserting it in. I'm told it's scar tissue I'm going into now. Anyway, never, ever had pain in ass before, using same gear forever. Shot 6 days ago in left glute and I'm with the other guy here, so, so much pain in ass. Can't lay on side, hobble like old man when I walk. Ass swelled up with large area protruding out (swollen). No burning, not abcess. Now pain is traveling down outside of quad, towards knee. My buddy said that injecting 3cc into scar tissue, the juice disappates too fast, thus the pain. Is this true? Why do you think the pain is traveling down the entire outer quad to the knee?

 

[dline]

right........ how bout "why get pain, when you dont have to"
i'm gunna go brush my shoulder, pop my collar, and do some squat's without pain...




TRoma


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i was just trying to offer constructive support not say your not man enough to man up to shots. Yes, i do have the same exact product you are using. Yes, i am currently running it as we speak ED. Yes, they do get better after time. PBL is on point with his products, customer service and T/A. You say if you dont have go thru pain then dont? Lemme ask you when did you training become so easy? Why dont you stick with an oral cycle (lol) then or just all Enanthates if you can't stand pain? Just like everybody says about certain compounds, "It's the nature of the beast!"

DLine

 

[dline]

You know, I'm glad someone started this subject. I have been shooting every 4 days on one glute and 4 days after that on the other glute. Basically in the same area each time. Been doing this for a year. Using 100mg prop/200mg primo/200mg EQ in one pin, 3cc's total. It's gotten so that when I put needle into glute, no blood ever and feels like "crackle" when inserting it in. I'm told it's scar tissue I'm going into now. Anyway, never, ever had pain in ass before, using same gear forever. Shot 6 days ago in left glute and I'm with the other guy here, so, so much pain in ass. Can't lay on side, hobble like old man when I walk. Ass swelled up with large area protruding out (swollen). No burning, not abcess. Now pain is traveling down outside of quad, towards knee. My buddy said that injecting 3cc into scar tissue, the juice disappates too fast, thus the pain. Is this true? Why do you think the pain is traveling down the entire outer quad to the knee?

why don't you try rotating more than 2 sites, itmight help give time off. But a year later i honestly dont know how effective it can be now. I alwaystry to maximize the time inbetween spot injections and the actual spot i injected prior.



DLine

 

[tonyroma]

i was just trying to offer constructive support not say your not man enough to man up to shots. Yes, i do have the same exact product you are using. Yes, i am currently running it as we speak ED. Yes, they do get better after time. PBL is on point with his products, customer service and T/A. You say if you dont have go thru pain then dont? Lemme ask you when did you training become so easy? Why dont you stick with an oral cycle (lol) then or just all Enanthates if you can't stand pain? Just like everybody says about certain compounds, "It's the nature of the beast!"

DLine

I wasn't sayin anything bad about PBL, products have always worked excellent. Man i'm sayin i've tried mostly every aas, and by far this blend has got to be the most ruthless. LOL How the hell does severe pain have anything to do with my training routine being easy? lmao.......???? Okay bra, I guess next time i'll tare my ACL while doing squates so I can make big gains....

The threads question---> "what new/different ways I could do to subdew my pain?"

Everyone else>>>> great tips

Dline's only responce: "no pain, no gain brother, brush the shit off and lift hard"

solid info......

Whats the point in even waisting your time writing a lame ass comment like that? WTF kind of response do you expect to get???lol "constructive support" please.

 

[dline]

I wasn't sayin anything bad about PBL, products have always worked excellent. Man i'm sayin i've tried mostly every aas, and by far this blend has got to be the most ruthless. LOL How the hell does severe pain have anything to do with my training routine being easy? lmao.......???? Okay bra, I guess next time i'll tare my ACL while doing squates so I can make big gains....



Whats the point in even waisting your time writing a lame ass comment like that? WTF kind of response do you expect to get???lol "constructive support" please.

i'm asking myself the same question right now?


Is nature of the beast something you aren't familiar with? I can't say I hear of too many people say "Hey that Tren/Prop @ 100/100 was so smooth i can pin it twice a day?" Do you? C'mon bro, all i was trying to say with no pain no gain is pretty obvious, you have to sacrifice something to get what you want. In this can you didn't use a pin to vent your prop and it blew up. And now you are stuck with a painful injection to get what you want into your body. Right now you have to man up to the injects if you wanna keep you blood levels stable, i would. No need for sides, I'd rather deal with whatever discomfort for time. The decision is easy.



Here's some help.


Shower in hot water prior to pin
Lather with Soap
Stretch massage area in shower
Sterilize, Pin, Sterilize
Back in shower
Massage under hotter water
Dont lift whatever muscle group you pinned that day



If still bad...

Got to Run, Appendege 2morrow...





DLine

 

[tonyroma]

i'm asking myself the same question right now?



Here's some help.


Shower in hot water prior to pin
Lather with Soap
Stretch massage area in shower
Sterilize, Pin, Sterilize
Back in shower
Massage under hotter water
Dont lift whatever muscle group you pinned




DLine

Gracias, its always good to see different peoples darting routines

 

[solidspine]

Bake it again with a pin, this time 220 degrees for 30 minutes

 

[immortalis]

Im going to be trying PBL's Prop/Tren ace combo for my next run in the fall... I cant wait

 

[SgtSlaughter]

I wasn't sayin anything bad about PBL, products have always worked excellent. Man i'm sayin i've tried mostly every aas, and by far this blend has got to be the most ruthless. LOL How the hell does severe pain have anything to do with my training routine being easy? lmao.......???? Okay bra, I guess next time i'll tare my ACL while doing squates so I can make big gains....

The threads question---> "what new/different ways I could do to subdew my pain?"

Everyone else>>>> great tips

Dline's only responce: "no pain, no gain brother, brush the shit off and lift hard"

solid info......

Whats the point in even waisting your time writing a lame ass comment like that? WTF kind of response do you expect to get???lol "constructive support" please.

as a Platinum member we have a great feature... called "Ignore"

comes in handy some times.

 

[caliboy]

Sterile grapeseed oil works nice. Def rotate ur sites around, I hit tris,glutes,delts sometimes quads. your body seems to adapt after a few sticks. Sometimes its jst the way it goes, lots of ideas why shots hurt. I use to warm oil heating pad, ect. now i just shoot the stuff and it works out about the same.

 

[caliboy]

Farmak is smooth as silk.

 

[ironclaw]

lol - shoot me a PM what UG - I'm like a cripple after 3cc's Quad front load of 300mg/ml EQ from a new bottle

I literally have to lift my left leg in and out of the car and bed with 2 hands.

haha, I'm not laughing at you, I'm laughing with you, been there , done that