I'M BACK! Considering Extended Cyle

[Silent Method]

A few of you may know that I've been dealing with some heavy turmoil for a while now. I've become distracted from my training. More corectly my training has ceased, having had little value, structure, or intensity for many months. I'm ashamed of my body right now, especially with regard for where I was 5 short months ago.

Play time is over. I'm taking back control of my physique.


Strict and efficient diet and training start now. Within a month or two I WILL regain a base physique worthy of a cycle. This time, however, I'm thinking of taking things a step further.

Those of you who have expereinced or studied extended cycle plans (i.e. greater than 14 weeks), please share your opinions. This is a very preliminary idea of what I may try.

Weeks 1-6 d-bol 30-40 mg/d

Weeks 4-12 Tren enanthate ?? mg/week

Weeks 10-20 Primo enanthate 400-800 mg/week

*Weeks 17-31 hGH 3iu/day (*possibly incorperating some anabolics along the line)

 

[DIVISION]

A few of you may know that I've been dealing with some heavy turmoil for a while now. I've become distracted from my training. More corectly my training has ceased, having had little value, structure, or intensity for many months. I'm ashamed of my body right now, especially with regard for where I was 5 short months ago.

Hello Kitten,

Since playtime is over, can you elaborate on what the specific turmoil was that curtailed your training for so many months? What possibly could let you regress to this point and how much strength and muscle mass have you lost? How much fat have you gained?

Are you sure this is the right time to start up again?





DIV

 

[nutsnack]

what is your BF? you make it sound like you gained 80lbs and lost all muscle and sitting at 45% BF.. stats?

 

[DIVISION]

what is your BF? you make it sound like you gained 80lbs and lost all muscle and sitting at 45% BF.. stats?

That's why I asked him to elaborate and as you can see, he's being skittish....





DIV

 

[nutsnack]

That's why I asked him to elaborate and as you can see, he's being skittish....





DIV

weird when i posted it didnt have your post on it thats why i pretty much asked the same question

 

[wellbilt]

welcome back bro
whats the stats

 

[DIVISION]

welcome back bro
whats the stats

I've known Silent Method for awhile now.........pulling answers out of him will be difficult.

We'll be lucky to get anything.....





DIV

 

[Stryker1992]

Dam bro, I was wondering WTF happened to you!

Welcome back!

 

[BigAndy69]

Hey bro, nobody has completed more insane comebacks then me, beleive me.

Extended Cycles => YOU WILL NEED TEST

I suggest you stay on Test at 200-400mg a week throughout your entire cycle.

EQ and Primo can also be part of your base. You can use stuff like Tren Acetate, NPP, Dbol, Anadrol, Winny in short spurts

 

[DIVISION]

SilentKitten....

Are you going to post in this thread again or remain silent?

Speak up, man.




DIV

 

[Silent Method]

I've known Silent Method for awhile now.........pulling answers out of him will be difficult.

We'll be lucky to get anything.....

Just what kind of moron are you? What turmoil? Go fuck yourself. "I've known Silent Method for a while now and..." I don't know you. Pull your head out of your ass, stop acting like such a bitch.


You guys that want stats - I'm about 6 feet tall and weigh about 205. I've lost about 20 pounds. I was at a very solid 225 with bf around 7-8%. Biggest I've been was about 235 at about 10% bf. Now I'm lingering at about 12% My diet has been TERRIBLE, and training almost non-existent.

Stryker, just don't have the time to put in around here like I used to, plus the personal problems I've been dealing with. Good to be back!

BigAndy - ahh, the damn test. I'm thinking I may like to try out tren without any test to evaluate my reaction. If I run a cycle similar to the rough outline I made, what do you think of starting the test after the tren and running it along with the GH?

 

[boyer]

^

 

[Wrongun]

Welcome back Silent Method good to see you posting again and on the way back up. Unfortunately i agree with Andy and would state Test is required

Wrongun!

 

[DIVISION]

Just what kind of moron are you? What turmoil? Go fuck yourself. "I've known Silent Method for a while now and..." I don't know you. Pull your head out of your ass, stop acting like such a bitch.

I know you about as well as anyone this board CAN. You don't say much and you lurk around as much as possible. The reason I asked about your "turmoil" is that I'm wondering why you think now is the opportune time to start back up again. Whatever made you stop training altogether had to be pretty bad, and I have a feeling there may be lingering effects which might inhibit your re-introduction.

You asked for help, didn't leave stats or any information to go on, then ran off.......

Like I said, stop being Silent......that Method will not work here if you are looking for help.




DIV

 

[nutsnack]

I've never taken tren but hope u get ure head on straight before u start a cycle so u can get the max out of it

 

[silverbackn]

Good to see you back Silent! I'm always glad to hear someone is getting back into it! I have run long cycle, but it really wasn't by design. I stayed on because I did my first cycle about 5 months out from a show to see if I was ready to compete. I ended up not coming off because I couldn't afford to come off for 5 weeks and then jump back on so I stayed on for about 20 weeks my first cycle. Like I said, it wasn't well planned out. I was a jackass, but I did compete.

 

[hardrock]

I've run 3 cycles 6 months or more thus far and this one I will remain on until further notice(HRT). I'd say Test is a MUST. Even at just 500 a week. Also why not run the GH all the way through(other than money)?

 

[Silent Method]

I know you about as well as anyone this board CAN. You don't say much and you lurk around as much as possible.

I've been here three years before you registered. Regardless, the vast majority of my conversations on this board have not involved you. Lastly, if I visit the board, I post. My visits have been infrequent as of late - Hence the "I'm Back" theme.

The reason I asked about your "turmoil" is that I'm wondering why you think now is the opportune time to start back up again. Whatever made you stop training altogether had to be pretty bad, and I have a feeling there may be lingering effects which might inhibit your re-introduction.

Bravo, very good line of questioning. Why you couldn't have done so in a dignified manner escapes me.

You asked for help, didn't leave stats or any information to go on, then ran off.......

Like I said, stop being Silent......that Method will not work here if you are looking for help.

Seriously, you'd think you were about to pee your pants in the 17 hours and 31 minutes you were anxiously waiting for me to come back to check my post. WTF??


Truly, your intent and query in the first post may be perfectly legit, but I'm lost on your abrasive line of posts in this thread. How do I know it's time to start back up with proper diet and training? Same reason I quit - I decided to. I decided to give up. Now I've decided to come back. Simple enough.


P.S. Next time please use a rubber before you spread any of your gay negative karma on me.

 

[Silent Method]

Also why not run the GH all the way through(other than money)?

Ding ding ding ding! Bingo.



Now, seriously, I love test as much as the next guy (I also hate what it does to my skin), but specifically, why would some of you say it's a must?

 

[DIVISION]

Bravo, very good line of questioning. Why you couldn't have done so in a dignified manner escapes me.

True, I do come across pretty caustic, I don't always mean to, but my intent was to understand you.

How do I know it's time to start back up with proper diet and training? Same reason I quit - I decided to. I decided to give up. Now I've decided to come back. Simple enough.

^^^This is what concerns me. I realize you made a conscious decision to quit, but there were reasons that weighed in to that, and I'm just wondering if you are sure that those same factors that contributed to your cessation are not still present. That's why I asked those questions. You don't seem inclined to answer...






DIV

 

[BigAndy69]

Ding ding ding ding! Bingo.



Now, seriously, I love test as much as the next guy (I also hate what it does to my skin), but specifically, why would some of you say it's a must?

I hate test more than any other juicer I know, but I have come to the conclusion that it is necessary for longer heavier cycles especially when you use something as suppressive as Tren.

You don't really need all that much, 150-300mg per week is sufficient. It will make recovery a lot easier.

 

[Silent Method]

This is what concerns me. I realize you made a conscious decision to quit, but there were reasons that weighed in to that, and I'm just wondering if you are sure that those same factors that contributed to your cessation are not still present. That's why I asked those questions. You don't seem inclined to answer...

Again, this line of questioning is valid and helpful. I'd rather not discuss in detail those factors at issue this moment in this forum.

Yes, many of those factors are indeed still very much present. However, much has changed regarding my dealing with those factors, my overall situational perspective, and, perhaps most importantly, an opportunity has arisen that has instilled within me a powerful new motivation. Training was wearing on me. I've had my break. I'm back.

I do appreciate this line of inquiry. Given more time I'd be happy to discuss aspects of my life philosophy in regard to training. For now, let me just say "this fits." That is, my time in the gym, my discipline outside of the gym, it's about overcoming. Pain, pressure, sadness, sorrow, disappointment - such energy can crush me, or I may chose to harness and utilize it to reach my goals.

 

[Silent Method]

I hate test more than any other juicer I know, but I have come to the conclusion that it is necessary for longer heavier cycles especially when you use something as suppressive as Tren.

You don't really need all that much, 150-300mg per week is sufficient. It will make recovery a lot easier.

Any theories as to why this may be so?

 

[silverbackn]

Again, this line of questioning is valid and helpful. I'd rather not discuss in detail those factors at issue this moment in this forum.

Yes, many of those factors are indeed still very much present. However, much has changed regarding my dealing with those factors, my overall situational perspective, and, perhaps most importantly, an opportunity has arisen that has instilled within me a powerful new motivation. Training was wearing on me. I've had my break. I'm back.

I do appreciate this line of inquiry. Given more time I'd be happy to discuss aspects of my life philosophy in regard to training. For now, let me just say "this fits." That is, my time in the gym, my discipline outside of the gym, it's about overcoming. Pain, pressure, sadness, sorrow, disappointment - such energy can crush me, or I may chose to harness and utilize it to reach my goals.

That's a positive approach bro, sounds like you have the right mindset to overcome it. I am going through some serious pain right now, I have just finally decided to not worry about what I can't control. Why live in the past, you can't change it, all it does is make you hurt more. I'm not gonna waste another day of my life feeling sorry for myself. Life is too short. I try to appreciate everyday and everything that is beautiful in my life. I'm even thankful for the shit in my life because it makes me appreciate the beautiful things that much more. It's all about perspective. Keep your head up, get stronger everyday. Keep grinding bro! You know you have a lot of support here.

 

[DIVISION]

Again, this line of questioning is valid and helpful. I'd rather not discuss in detail those factors at issue this moment in this forum.

Yes, many of those factors are indeed still very much present. However, much has changed regarding my dealing with those factors, my overall situational perspective, and, perhaps most importantly, an opportunity has arisen that has instilled within me a powerful new motivation. Training was wearing on me. I've had my break. I'm back.

I do appreciate this line of inquiry. Given more time I'd be happy to discuss aspects of my life philosophy in regard to training. For now, let me just say "this fits." That is, my time in the gym, my discipline outside of the gym, it's about overcoming. Pain, pressure, sadness, sorrow, disappointment - such energy can crush me, or I may chose to harness and utilize it to reach my goals.

Alright...SilentMethod.......

I wish you the best of luck in this, my only hope is that if the cat gets sidetracked this time it doesn't jump off it's perch like last time.





DIV

 

[JP@Ironology]

Welcome back bro!

Read your posts many times over the years.

The only advice I can give is; get in a training routine first for several weeks.

In this way you will give your cardiovascular system and muscles a chance to remember how much they have missed the gym...

Then it will be time to revisit the fun stuff....

 

[Silent Method]

silverbackn good luck on your end as well. JP, right on bro. It'll take some prep before I would consider starting a cyle.

Division, seriously, what's the compulsion to be an asshole about? (Maybe it'd be better if you didn't answer.)



Back to cycle questions, Big Andy, others, thoughts as to why test would make recovery easier?

 

[boyer]

silverbackn good luck on your end as well. JP, right on bro. It'll take some prep before I would consider starting a cyle.

Division, seriously, what's the compulsion to be an asshole about? (Maybe it'd be better if you didn't answer.)



He was neglected as a child and often picked on by others. He is simply crying out for attention. It is gratifying for him to get under other people's skin.

 

[swordfish151]

welcome back silent!!

 

[DIVISION]

Division, seriously, what's the compulsion to be an asshole about? (Maybe it'd be better if you didn't answer.)

Look, I wished you the best of luck, bro.

There's nothing more I can do for you.






DIV