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I'll never use deca again.

Sterone

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I did 200mg organnon the first week, and 400 mg the second week (1 shot sunday, then 1 shot wednesday). It has been 2 and a half weeks since my last shot and I still feel the gyno whether or not I take vitex. My nipples are still sensitive and now I know why women like their nipples and beasts to be touched. I weigh 215 lbs. Is there any estimation as to how long it will take for the progesterone levels to subside? I hope I don't have to have surgery.
 
If you got gyno from the deca at that low of a dosage then If I were you I would not even look at Fina....I hope the winny works for you bro, but thats not always the case...
 
muscleup said:
If you got gyno from the deca at that low of a dosage then If I were you I would not even look at Fina....I hope the winny works for you bro, but thats not always the case...
Well I already did use fina and it didn't affect me this bad, but it did cause my hair to thin and recede in a few places. And since fina caused my hair to thin, what would winny do? As long as I use nizoral shampoo and take the right supps, I believe I can keep my hair until I'm old. But with winny? That's why I didn't use it.
 
Sterone said:

My nipples are still sensitive and now I know why women like their nipples and beasts to be touched.

Bro you scare me. For you, I hope the gyno goes away very, very, very soon...

NFG
 
Audio8 said:

This will work ... but a lot wont use it because of the expense and its side effects.

I would get some winny, quick ... liquidex may help. IVe read a few posts about fluctuating E levels because of prolactin activity of deca.

NFG
 
Alright, I guess I'm going to have to break down and get all this stuff, RU 486, arimidex, and yohimbine. I'm already on DNP.
 
No nolvadex won't help at all against prog gyno. You're just one of those people that are very sensitive to prog gyno. What's wierd is that you didn't have any sides from fina which has the prog sides just like deca. Just stay away from deca. Sorry bro
 
hey sterone...you said that your hair had thinned from the fina...do you have ANY baldnedd in your family? your dad, grandfather someone else (either mom's or dad's side)???? just curious........
 
Stay away from ANADROL!!!!! your tits will get bigger then my girlfriends! (pretty damn big) I am praying for you man!
 
If none of the above solutions work, you may want to try Progesterone Cream. Progesterone is basically an anti-e of sorts. Deca (a progestin) binds to your progesterone receptors and blocks the good affects of progesterone. If you do decide to go this route, make sure you get real progesterone and not a synthetic. Most bc pills have synthetic progesterone because real progesterone isn’t orally active – so don’t use your gf’s bc pills.
 
Delinquent said:
What's wierd is that you didn't have any sides from fina which has the prog sides just like deca.
Actually that is not entirely accurate, I did have some progestin induced mammory glandular development from the fina, but it was not that much and it was what feels like lumps so that it was barely noticeable, ut there was no bulky fat like you get with estrogen. However this time there is not only some lumps added, but also fat, which makes me wonder if I wasn't able to handle the HCG I injected. Maybe I had some estrogen conversion. I did take nolvadex however. I only injected about 4000 IUs of HCG per week devided into 3 doses, and that for a few weeks. I'm thinking lipo is all that I will need at this point, that's if the lumps don't get bigger in the next few weeks.
 
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Hugh Gellatts said:
no Sterone, "I WILL NOT SUCK YOUR NIPPLES!"

jeezus. i thought they banned trolling for sexual favors on this board.
lol.. that's ok, maybe I can get a bi-girl to do it.
 
fitnesskid said:
hey sterone...you said that your hair had thinned from the fina...do you have ANY baldnedd in your family? your dad, grandfather someone else (either mom's or dad's side)???? just curious........
Only my grandfather on my mother's side. He lost alot of hair before he was 30 or 40. I may be proned to it. Therefore I'm behaving as though I was prone for sure, which means being very careful and using the right drugs/supps.
 
steeledan said:
you may want to try Progesterone Cream. Progesterone is basically an anti-e of sorts. Deca (a progestin) binds to your progesterone receptors and blocks the good affects of progesterone.
That's interesting. I have never heard of that. I thought real progesterone was just as likely to cause gyno as the synthetic deca progestin. So if real progesterone is less likely to cause gyno than the deca progestin, to use progesterone cream would block the progesterone receptors from the more potent deca progestin? Is this true? If so I might have to give it a try, but only if it is true. Otherwise it could make the gyno worse.
 
fyyer said:
If its not natural gyno, why not use yohimburn?
I'm on it already. And DNP and T3 as well.
I have heard good things about yohimburn. If it can burn off all the fatty tissue above the glands, that should be alright. The glands themselves aren't very bulky. I'll keep using it and will post updates.
 
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