If you want to double your gains then double your dose.

[bicepts101]

^^^

 

[bigrand]

Well, if you can gain say 15lbs in 8 weeks of only moderate doses, i dont see why you would want to go any higher on dose......sure you might gain more, but who says you will keep it? At 500mg test and 500mg ref-b, my first cycle was a 30+ pounder, but guess what.....after cutting the fat, i kept about 10. Your body can only hold so much new mass in 8 weeks, if its too much, your body cant hold and you will loose it.

 

[Dial_tone]

The problem I have with this study is that it only tests a relatively low dose. Newbies will read this and think "gee, if I double my dose from 1gram test to 2 grams maybe I'll get 60 lbs from my next cycle."
I want to see someone try to prove that one.

 

[panerai]

Of course, double dosage doesn't mean doule gains, literally, but it's A VERY GOOD POINT! The more you grow, the more anabolics you need in order to keep growing.
And, don't forget about HGH, insulin, and other drugs that are so helpful in gaining muscle mass.

 

[wyld1g]

Of course, double dosage doesn't mean doule gains, literally, but it's A VERY GOOD POINT! The more you grow, the more anabolics you need in order to keep growing.
And, don't forget about HGH, insulin, and other drugs that are so helpful in gaining muscle mass.

finally, someone that actually read more than the first sentence!

 

[Texas Ranger]

Just thought I'd bump a good post....

 

[yomama]

That was a truly stupid response.

Fonz

I agree.

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

There has been an awful lot of discussion about whether 300mg/wk is enough test for a first cycle. Nelson and some of the "moderate mods" have been posting for quite some time that 300mg/wk is a good first cycle. Those of us who have used much more have been saying to use more because the gains are so much more and the sides are pretty much the same.
Why would you go through all the hassle of a cycle, injecting, scoring, etc. and then settle on gains that you'd get at 300mg when you could DOUBLE your growth if you used 600mg/wk.
The standard reply from the low dose group has always been "you don't double your gains by doubling your doses".
Well fellas, that not true.
If you use 600mg instead of 300mg per week of test YOU WILL DOUBLE YOUR GAINS. No if's ands or buts about it.

Here is a link to the full study that proves it. Finally.


http://www.anabolicfitness.net/library/Development of models to predict anabolic response.pdf

This thread came before my time, but is worth checking out for sure

 

[geoboy]

It depends on your goals. The dbol is more fun and the Oxanadrolone is better for cutting and hardening. Anadrol I am not big on just because the gains are so fleeting.
500mg test and 400 eq is a good plan to build on though.

apparantly, I'm the only person in the world who cant grow on EQ.

 

[satchboogie]

bump