My buddy is a non believer, he has lost faith in all supps after being ripped off through the years..
he said he wouldnt even order the sample on the NTBM website because he is too skeptical..
He said if he could try a sample, and it worked for him, he would buy it right away; he is a man of his word..
Oh lol, just saw he would have to order it.. NM then..