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If first shot was an infection, would you shoot again?

Big_Joe said:
I've seen a couple of posts about infections and I had a thought. Did the vial have the cap on it when you bought it?? Or was the rubber part exposed? If the rubber was exposed I wonder if "someone" had taken out some of the gear and then replaced the amount removed with oil. So I wouldn't buy gear that didn't have the cap in place.

The next point is pasteurization and sterilization. Pasteurization is the heating of food, usually milk, to a temp of 145 degrees for fifteen minutes or 165 degrees for five minutes. This does not sterilize the food but does give a five log drop in the bacterial count. This allows it to be stored in a refrigerator for a few weeks. To sterilize something you need to have it under much higher heat and much higher pressure. This is why autoclaves are used to sterilize instruments. But even an autoclave will not kill many viruses so today gas is used for sterilization. So baking the gear at 250 is really only pasteurizing the gear not sterilizing the gear. This might kill enough of the bad guys to get you by or it might not.

In my opinion it's not worth it. What are we talking about, a couple hundred dollars? Or your death? You choose.

The vial did have the center cap on it. You know the money for the gear isnt a big deal....I have money to buy more test but its the source thats a problem. The only sources I know have minimum orders....which I dont have money for. I have already started my cycle and if I trash everything now....there goes my whole cycle. This is definitely a risk though...I just wish I had more options.
 
Here is a a thought, and it's just a thought. It might be a really bad idea, but I'll throw it out there. I woonder if he could clean his gear by injecting some BA into it. It would sting a lot when injected, but if it killed the germs it might be worth it. But it might not work, so I would need confirmation from an expert on this. Big Joe might know.
 
Outtlaw said:
How many shots did you take?? How many ml's?? And how many mg's??


So far I have only taken one shot. I was hoping it wasnt the gear but another bro on this board took the exact same gear and got infected 3 times. Its a 10ml vial 250 mg. My first shot was 500mg.
 
Islandkurry said:
Lets say that the first shot from a new vial caused you an infection, would you guys inject again from that vial?

Depends on how bad the infection was. Did you get sick? Have to get it lanced by a doctor?

Your ass, crotch, nose, and ears are all places that harbor staph bacteria. The staph just sit there and wait for an opportunity like a cut or scrape to kick your ass. Maybe you just got unlucky.

I always clean the vial and skin with alcohol. If the pin touches
anything I throw it out. I dont care if it touched the top of my desk or my finger I pitch it and dont try cleaning it to get it sterile again. I am also careful to not even breathe torwards it. After injecting I wipe the pinprick with alcohol, a dab of antibiotic and slap on a band aid. Always put on fresh boxers too.

Which reminds me, I once dropped a pin and it fell right into my fucking foot. Hit a nerve because it hurt and made my foot twitch. Pulled it out and thought about using it but realized it had touched a dirty part of my body so pitched it.
 
Islandkurry said:
So far I have only taken one shot. I was hoping it wasnt the gear but another bro on this board took the exact same gear and got infected 3 times. Its a 10ml vial 250 mg. My first shot was 500mg.
Was it the same brand and same lot #?

I hate to tell you to take a risk, but when I had a bad batch of gear I had to be COMPLETELY sure that it was the gear that was bad and not something else that I was doing or taking. The only way to rule out everything else was to take another shot and see what happened. When I got sick from it again, I knew for a fact it was "that" particular vial that was contaminated. So I threw it out and tried another vial... and everything went fine. Problem solved.

What Im saying is, how can you rule out human error and/or anything else that might have occured to cause the infection when you only took one shot from the vial?? If you tried another shot, say .5ml, and the same thing happens, then you know for a fact what the problem is. For all you know, your body may have simply reacted badly to the high ba content in the gear, and if you took a lower dose and cut it with something else then you might be just fine. Cause believe me, if your gear is contaminated, your gonna get a reaction regardless of what you cut it with or how much you take of it.
 
Outtlaw said:
Was it the same brand and same lot #?

I hate to tell you to take a risk, but when I had a bad batch of gear I had to be COMPLETELY sure that it was the gear that was bad and not something else that I was doing or taking. The only way to rule out everything else was to take another shot and see what happened. When I got sick from it again, I knew for a fact it was "that" particular vial that was contaminated. So I threw it out and tried another vial... and everything went fine. Problem solved.

What Im saying is, how can you rule out human error and/or anything else that might have occured to cause the infection when you only took one shot from the vial?? If you tried another shot, say .5ml, and the same thing happens, then you know for a fact what the problem is. For all you know, your body may have simply reacted badly to the high ba content in the gear, and if you took a lower dose and cut it with something else then you might be just fine. Cause believe me, if your gear is contaminated, your gonna get a reaction regardless of what you cut it with or how much you take of it.

The real reason that I think its the gear is because when i put this thread up another bro contacted me and asked me what kind of gear I was using. When I told him he said the exact same thing is happening to him from the exact same gear. He shot it 3 times and all 3 times got infected. It is the same brand and same gear. I shot it once and it got infected...I will be shooting a small amount again just to make sure.
 
Beachbum1546 said:
I just ordered some GTP test E and now I'm freaked out!

yea i dont blame you, I baked my gear and shot a small amount into my quad right now. Im freaked out waiting to see what happens.
 
I just emailed my guy and asked if he has had any GTP problems. I also asked he could just switch out my order to schering test enanthate just to on the safe side. My guy is best so I'm sure he'll do the right thing.
 
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