Ideal Deca dosage and length

[JakeRPatrick]

I understand , and I definitely will research much more. In the meantime, I will stick with what I know, and start another test and drol cycle in a few weeks. I will study on proper pct for deca for a few months. Thanks for your help

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[stevesmi]

you don't want to use nolva at all in any pct.

did u recover fully from your last cycles? did u run bloods?

 

[JakeRPatrick]

Yes I recovered fine from my last 2 cycles. I used nolva for both. My first cycle was dianabol only, I hastily hopped into that cycle, messed up hardcore and used only clomid at the end. I lost nearly everything I had gained, big mistake.
As for the nolva on my last two, I held up just fine. Is the fact that you don't like nolva just a preference of yours, b\c it has seemed to work well for me.

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[JakeRPatrick]

No I did not have bloods done. When do you suggest doing this? I'd like to experiment , and record for personal use just how much everything changes . Anyway, original question, when should this be done ( I would assume before, during peak, and after)

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[stevesmi]

so how do you know you recovered with nolva if you didn't run bloods?

are you trolling or are you serious with this entire thread?

 

[bigbassturd]

His problem with nolva is not personal, so it's not an opinion bro.

He's right.

Nolva is a garbage product that upregulates progesterone, so running it with a 19nor compound is asking for serious sides

If you like having tits, go for it. Otherwise I would suggest you rethink it

 

[JakeRPatrick]

Man I don't even know what trolling means ( care to share ), all I know is I am asking questions so I can safely and efficiently do something interesting me. As I stated, I'm definitely going to wait before going ahead with the deca cycle I had mentioned, as I obviously need to read and research and asking more questions.
Also, by my standards of recovering
I maintained the better part of what I had gained, no libido problems (hard ons, or sexual problems in any way) , and a good overall feeling of well being/mood. To me these are all things that happen when your shutdown I had no trouble with any afterwards. I realize this is not ideal to tell if you have recovered, and that blood work is the only way to be 100%, but I also know a lot can be told without it.

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[stevesmi]

^^^ trolling is someone who comes on here just to screw around... but if you say you aren't doing that then I will give you the benefit of the doubt.

now your next step is i want you to get bloodwork done to make sure you are recovered.. you said you lost all your gains from your prior cycles, that is a major red flag that you did not recover to me. you should never lose all your gains after cycle like that, your natural testosterone as a man should pick up with a proper pct and you should be able to retain a good amount of gains.. if you don't then you might have some HPTA issues. only way to know is blood work

lets get that done and if everything is g2g then we will move on to your next cycle and do things THE RIGHT WAY this time.

 

[ALIN]

I would suggest trying 2mg per pound of bodyweight for no less than 8 weeks, DECA
is best used in longer duration cycles.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Worst steroid ever.