I wish I had bigger muscles

[Lestat]

That was what I came to this site for in the first place, now look at me. Nearly 60,000 posts later and still a skinny fuck.

 

[hotzie]

 

[galaxy]

yeah but you have a good personality.

 

[Lestat]

yeah but you have a good personality.

lol. You've never met me though, e-personality doesn't equal real life personality. I wonder if EF has been a positive or negative influence on my real life personality? I think it has exposed me to a wider range of topics and people, that in turn gives me more to talk about in the real world.

I could still use some bigger muscles though.

 

[healother]

huh? you arent as skinny as when u started out though, right? didnt you say you were like 165 when you started?

I came to this site to get ripped, lean, and stronger. 5 years later and I'm worse off than I was back then, lol

Its amazing how little one can accomplish on this site, when the only forum they hang out in is C+C (referring to myself)

 

[redsamurai]

yeah, but you're rolling in pussy, so don't worry about it. Trust me......women want men as "close to them" as possible nowadays. Only gay men pay attention to muscles.......seriously. Women care about your portfolio.....period!

 

[healother]

yeah, but you're rolling in pussy, so don't worry about it. Trust me......women want men as "close to them" as possible nowadays. Only gay men pay attention to muscles.......seriously. Women care about your portfolio.....period!

portfolio? like a stock portfolio?

 

[Lestat]

yeah, but you're rolling in pussy, so don't worry about it. Trust me......women want men as "close to them" as possible nowadays. Only gay men pay attention to muscles.......seriously. Women care about your portfolio.....period!

great fucking post bro!!! Karma for that explanation.

 

[galaxy]

lol. You've never met me though, e-personality doesn't equal real life personality. I wonder if EF has been a positive or negative influence on my real life personality? I think it has exposed me to a wider range of topics and people, that in turn gives me more to talk about in the real world.

I could still use some bigger muscles though.

Your single tho. Id probably have more posts if i was too...............and just do some test cyp and deca with a good anti e and throw in some T3 and clen for that abercrombie look. you look like you could make it work for you, probably better than a straight out mass look? And maybe you should consider a tribal tatoo? Chics dig the ink.

 

[redsamurai]

portfolio? like a stock portfolio?

that and how much you make a year. Women figure they score the guy with the big bucks they're set for life......and if the sex is lacking they'll just go get it somewhere else.....causee hey, if he divorces them they get half right?

 

[galaxy]

yeah, but you're rolling in pussy,

thats an oxymoron.........the dude has 60,000 posts!

 

[rocky_road]

great fucking post bro!!! Karma for that explanation.

LOL, he's rather right. Chicks dig ya as you are ...hottie.


On another note, muscles are really hot and a really fascinating sexual visual!
I bet you have just enough to make women squirm.

 

[Lestat]

that and how much you make a year. Women figure they score the guy with the big bucks they're set for life......and if the sex is lacking they'll just go get it somewhere else.....causee hey, if he divorces them they get half right?

oh boy, I hope bikinimom doesn't see this

 

[redsamurai]

thats an oxymoron.........the dude has 60,000 posts!

I'm seriously laughing right now.....that's a total dick move by the way.....I'll see if I can't give you some karma as soon as I stop peeing myself.

 

[hotzie]

LOL, he's rather right. Chicks dig ya as you are ...hottie.


On another note, muscles are really hot and a really fascinating sexual visual!
I bet you have just enough to make women squirm.

wtf

 

[Lestat]

thats an oxymoron.........the dude has 60,000 posts!

bad bro material

 

[galaxy]

lol. You've never met me though, e-personality doesn't equal real life personality. I wonder if EF has been a positive or negative influence on my real life personality? I think it has exposed me to a wider range of topics and people, that in turn gives me more to talk about in the real world.

I could still use some bigger muscles though.

i think as a whole the internet has had a negative influence over everybodys personal lives and how we interact. Only people who really benefit from social interaction on the net are predators.lol

 

[redsamurai]

oh boy, I hope bikinimom doesn't see this

why?

 

[healother]

that and how much you make a year. Women figure they score the guy with the big bucks they're set for life......and if the sex is lacking they'll just go get it somewhere else.....causee hey, if he divorces them they get half right?

prenups for the win!

 

[Lestat]

why?

feminist

 

[Lestat]

prenups for the win!

the hottest and most manipulative can get out of any prenup.

 

[galaxy]

bad bro material

You know im just playing. Were forever bonded by the distiguishing fact that we were both banned by Radar.lol

 

[string_bean00]

grass is always greener man

I have muscles but i have zero sober game, I only have game when im drunk. fuck

 

[healother]

the hottest and most manipulative can get out of any prenup.

point aside,

you've gained some size since you've been on EF, havent you? didnt you say you were like 165 when you started?

 

[rocky_road]

wtf

what's the fallacy?

 

[Raptorex]

sorry bro, perhaps you should spend more time with the juicers.

 

[Lestat]

point aside,

you've gained some size since you've been on EF, havent you? didnt you say you were like 165 when you started?

yeah, i was 165, but super lean, I was running half marathons.

now I'm 195, but more bodyfat, so who knows, it could all be a fucking wash! I've got decent bis though. lol.

 

[hotzie]

what's the fallacy?

nothing , nevermind.

 

[Lestat]

hotzie got jelus

 

[Mavafanculo]

yeah, but you're rolling in pussy, so don't worry about it. Trust me......women want men as "close to them" as possible nowadays. Only gay men pay attention to muscles.......seriously. Women care about your portfolio.....period!

no - women when they get in their Marriage Frenzy look at your portfolio - when they want to have fun they look for a hot body and all the other superficial stuff.

Then, after they marry the rich guy with the portfolio, they cheat on him with the hot body superficial dudes.

thank you.

-

 

[galaxy]

I've got decent bis though. lol.

you just need the ink on em now. lol

 

[Raptorex]

no - women when they get in their Marriage Frenzy look at your portfolio - when they want to have fun they look for a hot body and all the other superficial stuff.

Then, after they marry the rich guy with the portfolio, they cheat on him with the hot body superficial dudes.

thank you.

-

so the question becomes do we want to be

Door #1

or

Door #2

or backdoor like Pick3

 

[hotzie]

hotzie got jelus

 

[redsamurai]

no - women when they get in their Marriage Frenzy look at your portfolio - when they want to have fun they look for a hot body and all the other superficial stuff.

Then, after they marry the rich guy with the portfolio, they cheat on him with the hot body superficial dudes.

thank you.

-

exactly what I said in a later post.....you're right on.....

 

[Lestat]

she's all yours bro

 

[hotzie]

she's all yours bro

i wish.

 

[rocky_road]

so the question becomes do we want to be

Door #1

or

Door #2

or backdoor like Pick3

We want you to be our doors to heaven. Some women's heaven is money (greedy bitches,) some care about more important things.....like muscles

 

[Raptorex]

We want you to be our doors to heaven. Some women's heaven is money (greedy bitches,) some care about more important things.....like muscles

to be honest, at some point your money just sits in the bank at some point (useless), as long as she sucks good cock for it, I'm all in.

 

[DannoMight]

I wish I had some bigger muscles myself.

Do you put synthol in ur bi's?

 

[rocky_road]

Josh, express your feelings....this is no good....I don't know what is going on.

 

[healother]

.

ive seen many dudes without muscles, get laid by chicks.
no i havent actually watched them fuck each other, but i know it happens.

that being said, muscles arent necessary for getting laid.

or did you want muscles for some other reason?

 

[hotzie]

Josh, express your feelings....this is no good....I don't know what is going on.

lol nothing is goin on .

 

[Mavafanculo]

Josh, express your feelings....this is no good....I don't know what is going on.

 

[rocky_road]

lol nothing is goin on .

Don't say nothing is going on or I'll think you're just being a dick.

 

[hotzie]

Josh, express your feelings....this is no good....I don't know what is going on.

 

[redsamurai]

We want you to be our doors to heaven. Some women's heaven is money (greedy bitches,) some care about more important things.....like muscles

I've found that women for the most part consider money to be thier doors to heaven......because they've bought into the social grooming that's been thrust upon them since birth. Unless they make a ton of it themselves......they look at life partners for money. Even if a guy made decent way above average salary, and looked good, had muscles etc... and could provide an entirely comfortable living for a woman......the woman will still choose the guy making uber money. Despite the fact that he will be an inattentive husband due to the fact that 80-100 hours of his week are dedicated to making that extra dollar, or 100k dollars. I'm really interested in seeing what happens to me in the next few years.....I'm in a position where it's very possible I could make a "staggering" amount of money in the next 5-10 years. It's going to be interesting to see how women change in regards to how they view me. Right now I'm just a musclebound meathead.....despite the fact that I'm "very" educated. I don't dress GQ so that's another hit on me......but I really wonder how women are going to change towards me in the coming years. It really might disgust me so deeply that I either swear off sex or go .

 

[hotzie]

Don't say nothing is going on or I'll think you're just being a dick.

i was just playin , not bein a dick , i promise

 

[CO B-man]

dude, be in competition with NOBODY but yourself. EVER! I guarantee year after year you will be the best you that ever walked the face of this earth. Check your ego at the door.

 

[rocky_road]

I've found that women for the most part consider money to be thier doors to heaven......because they've bought into the social grooming that's been thrust upon them since birth. Unless they make a ton of it themselves......they look at life partners for money. Even if a guy made decent way above average salary, and looked good, had muscles etc... and could provide an entirely comfortable living for a woman......the woman will still choose the guy making uber money. Despite the fact that he will be an inattentive husband due to the fact that 80-100 hours of his week are dedicated to making that extra dollar, or 100k dollars. I'm really interested in seeing what happens to me in the next few years.....I'm in a position where it's very possible I could make a "staggering" amount of money in the next 5-10 years. It's going to be interesting to see how women change in regards to how they view me. Right now I'm just a musclebound meathead.....despite the fact that I'm "very" educated. I don't dress GQ so that's another hit on me......but I really wonder how women are going to change towards me in the coming years. It really might disgust me so deeply that I either swear off sex or go .

I've holding my tongue because their are apparently women in the world like that. But IT MAKES NO SENCE!!!! No women in her right mind would feel this way. That's way rediculous--at least to me---that's saying that women don't want real relationships, or anything meaningful----and that's basically saying that women are dumb!! What an insult!

 

[redsamurai]

I've holding my tongue because their are apparently women in the world like that. But IT MAKES NO SENCE!!!! No women in her right mind would feel this way. That's way rediculous--at least to me---that's saying that women don't want real relationships, or anything meaningful----and that's basically saying that women are dumb!! What an insult!

I'm saying that women view real relationships as financial stability.....which I understand.....but as I said, women will always hold out for the most money.....it's what their mothers taught them. Kudo's to any woman out there that went out and got a carreer that said I can take care of myself and live comfortably myself, fuck a man! Those women usually find a real man......not that there's too many of those left around either.

 

[rocky_road]

ughhhhhhhh....god......i mean women are soo not like that as a majority. Cuz if they were and men hated it, then I would be getting asked out a lot fucking lot more (I don't get asked out EVER)

It pisses me off when guys complain about women. If you don't like the bitches you're meeting, be nice to someone good for a change, you know someone with a heart, someone who will treat you right, don't keep "falling" for the same bitches over and over again just cause you can't get over your ego enough to GIVE UP on certain women and GO FOR the ones who will reciprocate times 10 the effort you give to the relationship! GAWD!

 

[rocky_road]

I'm saying that women view real relationships as financial stability.....which I understand.....but as I said, women will always hold out for the most money.....it's what their mothers taught them. Kudo's to any woman out there that went out and got a carreer that said I can take care of myself and live comfortably myself, fuck a man! Those women usually find a real man......not that there's too many of those left around either.

Well their IS an age gap here, I don't know how old you are, but I'm 18, and women are becomming very financially indepdent.

 

[Mavafanculo]

ughhhhhhhh....god......i mean women are soo not like that as a majority. Cuz if they were and men hated it, then I would be getting asked out a lot fucking lot more (I don't get asked out EVER)

It pisses me off when guys complain about women. If you don't like the bitches you're meeting, be nice to someone good for a change, you know someone with a heart, someone who will treat you right, don't keep "falling" for the same bitches over and over again just cause you can't get over your ego enough to GIVE UP on certain women and GO FOR the ones who will reciprocate times 10 the effort you give to the relationship! GAWD!

no worrys - the trophy wife gets tossed aside when the first line or gray hair appears. the sweetie with a good heart is a keeper.

 

[galaxy]

ughhhhhhhh....god......i mean women are soo not like that as a majority. Cuz if they were and men hated it, then I would be getting asked out a lot fucking lot more (I don't get asked out EVER)

It pisses me off when guys complain about women. If you don't like the bitches you're meeting, be nice to someone good for a change, you know someone with a heart, someone who will treat you right, don't keep "falling" for the same bitches over and over again just cause you can't get over your ego enough to GIVE UP on certain women and GO FOR the ones who will reciprocate times 10 the effort you give to the relationship! GAWD!

Well now i would say that goes back to the guys mom fucking them up when they were kids. Theres generally a reason for repeated behavior in relationships. Overbearing father, uncaring mother, blah blah blah.......................basically were all fucked

 

[rocky_road]

no worrys - the trophy wife gets tossed aside when the first line or gray hair appears. the sweetie with a good heart is a keeper.

hahaha, STFU.

 

[bigmann245]

yeah, but you're rolling in pussy, so don't worry about it. Trust me......women want men as "close to them" as possible nowadays. Only gay men pay attention to muscles.......seriously. Women care about your portfolio.....period!

so i should buy a bigger briefcase?????

 

[mountain muscle]

Well now i would say that goes back to the guys mom fucking them up when they were kids. Theres generally a reason for repeated behavior in relationships. Overbearing father, uncaring mother, blah blah blah.......................basically were all fucked

I wouldn't necessarily agree with that. I have Great parents.
I fucked myself up all on my own accord.

 

[rocky_road]

Well now i would say that goes back to the guys mom fucking them up when they were kids. Theres generally a reason for repeated behavior in relationships. Overbearing father, uncaring mother, blah blah blah.......................basically were all fucked

lol yeah. In the case of my family I know that my sister and I both want the opposite of what my dad is. If we get married we will both end up with a financially non challant man (rather than workaholic) who is romantic and sensitive.

 

[Mavafanculo]

hahaha, STFU.

WTF?.
Licensed from Pick3 Inc., All Rights Reserved

 

[hotzie]

lol yeah. In the case of my family I know that my sister and I both want the opposite of what my dad is. If we get married we will both end up with a financially non challant man (rather than workaholic) who is romantic and sensitive.

 

[mountain muscle]

lol yeah. In the case of my family I know that my sister and I both want the opposite of what my dad is. If we get married we will both end up with a financially non challant man (rather than workaholic) who is romantic and sensitive.

Nothing wrong with a type A workaholic.

 

[rocky_road]

no worrys - the trophy wife gets tossed aside when the first line or gray hair appears. the sweetie with a good heart is a keeper.

Do you realize how egotistical this sounds?

 

[redsamurai]

Well their IS an age gap here, I don't know how old you are, but I'm 18, and women are becomming very financially indepdent.

I'm 29.....but you're still springchicken....enjoy it. You are correct to some extent.....women are becoming more financially independant.......but curiously they're now picking up some of mens bad habits........it's all fucked! Humans are a shit bunch!

 

[rocky_road]

Humans are a shit bunch!

Fuck Yeah

 

[Mavafanculo]

Do you realize how egotistical this sounds?

no, and in any event I'm not talking about me, I'm talking about men who only want the trophy wife - just like the women who only look at a mans wallet and split when the going gets tuff financially.

 

[galaxy]

If we get married we will both end up with a financially non challant man (rather than workaholic) who is romantic and sensitive.

Good luck with that romantic and sensitive part. I remember when i wasnt senical.lol

 

[rocky_road]

I preety much feel like I'd be happy in any relationship so long as he treats me with love and respect. I find it easy to like people if I'm attracted to them. I don't see why people are so damn picky, and selfish, and all that shit; it makes me tremble to think that these are the people who are getting into relationships (and a lot of the "good people" are staying out of them.) Does that make any sence? I don't want to offend anyone.

Mava, I just was appalled by your mentioning of ditching a "trophy wife" or something like that, i'm sure you didn't mean it in the way I intrepreted it, but it seemed like you thought cuz you're a male you can just step all over girls to get what you want;;;;;;;;;; I'm sleepy.

 

[redsamurai]

hahah......romantic and sensitive?? yoU mean the "nice guy"? who never ever ever ever ever get's anywhere?? sure......rrrriiiiiiiggggghhhhhtt

 

[galaxy]

hahah......romantic and sensitive?? yoU mean the "nice guy"? who never ever ever ever ever get's anywhere?? sure......rrrriiiiiiiggggghhhhhtt

Lestat?

 

[mountain muscle]

I preety much feel like I'd be happy in any relationship so long as he treats me with love and respect. I find it easy to like people if I'm attracted to them. I don't see why people are so damn picky, and selfish, and all that shit; it makes me tremble to think that these are the people who are getting into relationships (and a lot of the "good people" are staying out of them.) Does that make any sence? I don't want to offend anyone.

Mava, I just was appalled by your mentioning of ditching a "trophy wife" or something like that, i'm sure you didn't mean it in the way I intrepreted it, but it seemed like you thought cuz you're a male you can just step all over girls to get what you want;;;;;;;;;; I'm sleepy.

You need a failed relationship or two under your belt. Then you can join the cynical crowd.

 

[redsamurai]

Lestat?

I dunno....he usually got's pics of himself with some pretty hot girls? maybe he tells em he's gay? they always fall for that one!!.....

 

[rocky_road]

hahah......romantic and sensitive?? yoU mean the "nice guy"? who never ever ever ever ever get's anywhere?? sure......rrrriiiiiiiggggghhhhhtt

why is that? why don't they "get anywhere"? Maybe they get exactly where they want to go.

MM, I didn't say I wasn't cynical about relationships, lol, I am. I think they have a low chance of working out, especially with me! ha I am hard to match up with, but what I meant was, when I find my soul mate, I will love him no matter who he is ..... LOL

 

[redsamurai]

why is that? why don't they "get anywhere"? Maybe they get exactly where they want to go.

LOL

no, they don't get anywhere because they're "nice".....they respect women. Women deep down inside don't want to be respected......it's some kind of inate low self esteem that most women seem to come preprogrammed with. Because as soon as that nice guy comes into their life.....they fuck it up. And then they say "he was too nice"!! Nice=pussy to most women.

 

[mountain muscle]

why is that? why don't they "get anywhere"? Maybe they get exactly where they want to go.

MM, I didn't say I wasn't cynical about relationships, lol, I am. I think they have a low chance of working out, especially with me! ha I am hard to match up with, but what I meant was, when I find my soul mate, I will love him no matter who he is ..... LOL

RR, at 18 you really shouldn't be cynical about relationships. You should, however be cynical about the idea of a "soul mate".

 

[rocky_road]

no, they don't get anywhere because they're "nice".....they respect women. Women deep down inside don't want to be respected......it's some kind of inate low self esteem that most women seem to come preprogrammed with. Because as soon as that nice guy comes into their life.....they fuck it up. And then they say "he was too nice"!! Nice=pussy to most women.

I'm not going to listen to you because You are not going to change my idea of how I believe I should be treated (with respect), and I won't allow you to manipulate me into believing that this is how I "really" want to be treated.

Nice try though.

 

[redsamurai]

I'm not going to listen to you because You are not going to change my idea of how I believe I should be treated (with respect), and I won't allow you to manipulate me into believing that this is how I "really" want to be treated.

Nice try though.

manipulating you?? wtf? i'm telling you like it is. I will never treat a woman that way.....even if it means i'm the nice guy that doesn't get the pussy.I'm just relaying what i've observed in women over the past 12 or so years. How am i trying to change you by the way?

 

[Bikini Mod]

oh boy, I hope bikinimom doesn't see this

LOL why should I be personally offended if a man is not prudent enough to offer a woman more than JUST his wallet if he is serious enough to marry her?

 

[Bikini Mod]

so the question becomes do we want to be

Door #1

or

Door #2

or backdoor like Pick3

Or perhaps the man should raise the bar and look for the woman who wants it all:

A smart man with bank who is also kind, doting, warm, supportive, is strong of character and is a selfless lover. If she cares a fuck about a hot bod or pretty face then let that be on her as we are all getting older. As time strips us of our external beauty what remains?

If more men were attracted to a woman's inner beauty and cared less about her tits and ass maybe, JUST MAYBE they might find a woman who is worthy of THEIR inner beauty.

Just my .02 which is like everybody else's asshole.

 

[Lestat]

Josh are you ok?

 

[Beachbum1546]

You did win a ipod nano over me and all I won was a t-shirt.

I've been here since 2003. I was about 150-160lbs back then, now I'm a AAS abusing, veiny, and jacked 215lbs.

 

[Wulfgar]

LEstat bro. you dont give yourself enough credit. You got alot goin for you. Your tall. your in shape. your a good looking guy and you have a good build. You may not be bodybuilder big but who gives a shit? your not going onstage anytime soon.
Ask Galaxy or any of the other jacked dues on here. to get an extreme amount of muscle takes alot of sacrifice. I honestly dont think you want to give up the lifestyle you have right now. No drinking, clean eating 24/7 never missng workouts, not going out so you can sleep to recover and get up early to train etc...
keep doin what your doin man. You got a good thing going for you

 

[Lestat]

LEstat bro. you dont give yourself enough credit. You got alot goin for you. Your tall. your in shape. your a good looking guy and you have a good build. You may not be bodybuilder big but who gives a shit? your not going onstage anytime soon.
Ask Galaxy or any of the other jacked dues on here. to get an extreme amount of muscle takes alot of sacrifice. I honestly dont think you want to give up the lifestyle you have right now. No drinking, clean eating 24/7 never missng workouts, not going out so you can sleep to recover and get up early to train etc...
keep doin what your doin man. You got a good thing going for you

the training and dieting doesn't sound so bad either.

 

[Wulfgar]

the training and dieting doesn't sound so bad either.

chicks hate it

 

[Lestat]

chicks hate it

true

 

[Mavafanculo]

I'm not going to listen to you because You are not going to change my idea of how I believe I should be treated (with respect), and I won't allow you to manipulate me into believing that this is how I "really" want to be treated.

Nice try though.

here use this picture to emphasize your point. men are very visual

 

[blueta2]

I've found that women for the most part consider money to be thier doors to heaven......because they've bought into the social grooming that's been thrust upon them since birth. Unless they make a ton of it themselves......they look at life partners for money. Even if a guy made decent way above average salary, and looked good, had muscles etc... and could provide an entirely comfortable living for a woman......the woman will still choose the guy making uber money. Despite the fact that he will be an inattentive husband due to the fact that 80-100 hours of his week are dedicated to making that extra dollar, or 100k dollars.

I am always amazing at how men on EF portray women. Not sure where you're meeting these sorts of women, but I know no women like this, nor am I like this!
I want a man with a job, a good heart and who can take care of himself...simple!

 

[AAP]

If you want them, then get them.

I dont' see what is so hard about something as simple as making your body grow and yet the board is full of people that can't figure it out.

Personally, my advice is forget about muscles and money. Work on your lovemaking skills. That's all you need to do. Satisfy one bitch, and all her friends will come sniffing around and word spreads.

 

[crew9]

why is that? why don't they "get anywhere"? Maybe they get exactly where they want to go.

***This is for younger women, I know most older woman don't want assholes***

It's simple really. "Nice" guys don't usually get the girl because "nice" typically means no confidence. The "nice" guy who does get the girl usually loses her quickly because girls want a man not a little pussy in a relationship. Girls are drawn to the asshole because they usually put off a fall sense of confidence.

 

[gotmojo]

That was what I came to this site for in the first place, now look at me. Nearly 60,000 posts later and still a skinny fuck.

 

[rnch]

no worrys - the trophy wife gets tossed aside when the first line or gray hair appears. the sweetie with a good heart is a keeper.

often all too true.....my best friend/broly/partner-in-higher-acts-of-stupidity's father has gone from class (first wife, broly's mom) to ass (trophy second wife, divorced him, no pre-nup, raped him financially) back to class (current long time gf, a very sweet, wordly, intelligent, well preserved 50-something).

perhaps in his 60's the dude's dad is FINALLY growing up. i hope his son matures before his father did.

 

[digimon7068]

ur spending too much time on the wrong board. . ."skinny" i can work with. . ."stupid" i can not

 

[rnch]

lol yeah. In the case of my family I know that my sister and I both want the opposite of what my dad is. If we get married we will both end up with a financially non challant man (rather than workaholic) who is romantic and sensitive.

i can set u up with a couple of altenative lifestylers who fit your description.....

 

[Bikini Mod]

often all too true.....my best friend/broly/partner-in-higher-acts-of-stupidity's father has gone from class (first wife, broly's mom) to ass (trophy second wife, divorced him, no pre-nup, raped him financially) back to class (current long time gf, a very sweet, wordly, intelligent, well preserved 50-something).

perhaps in his 60's the dude's dad is FINALLY growing up. i hope his son matures before his father did.

Life is a journey and hoepfully a learning process as well.

The GIRL with low self-esteem will be wildly attracted to the good-looking abusive asshole that treats her like shit (me being larger than life illustration). When THE WOMAN has had enough bullshit she will wise up and only pay attention to THE NICE MAN. Money is important for some but not all. If A MAN has reached his mid 40's and hasnt a pot to piss in then how smart/driven could he be? In other words if said man is say, a juice-head with guns of steel but no bank because he blows it all on laser hair removal, tanning, protein powder, juice and GH then WTF value does he have?

Generally women value security and men value beauty. All else stems from this. If said successful man is only interested in a trophy then he deserves being taken to the cleaners. If said pretty woman is only interested in Gucci and Prada then she has nothing to complain about when her man emotionally abandons her (or was never emotionally invested to begin with as it was easier for him to simply write a check).

It isnt all that complicated.

 

[Bikini Mod]

ur spending too much time on the wrong board. . ."skinny" i can work with. . ."stupid" i can not

True, true.

 

[jnevin]

yeah, i was 165, but super lean, I was running half marathons.

now I'm 195, but more bodyfat, so who knows, it could all be a fucking wash! I've got decent bis though. lol.

Deadlift, muddafugga.

 

[rnch]

Life is a journey and hoepfully a learning process as well.

The GIRL with low self-esteem will be wildly attracted to the good-looking abusive asshole that treats her like shit (me being larger than life illustration). When THE WOMAN has had enough bullshit she will wise up and only pay attention to THE NICE MAN. Money is important for some but not all. If A MAN has reached his mid 40's and hasnt a pot to piss in then how smart/driven could he be? In other words if said man is say, a juice-head with guns of steel but no bank because he blows it all on laser hair removal, tanning, protein powder, juice and GH then WTF value does he have?

Generally women value security and men value beauty. All else stems from this. If said successful man is only interested in a trophy then he deserves being taken to the cleaners. If said pretty woman is only interested in Gucci and Prada then she has nothing to complain about when her man emotionally abandons her (or was never emotionally invested to begin with as it was easier for him to simply write a check).

It isnt all that complicated.

Wise Words. this journey is not only confined to women, though.

 

[Raptorex]

I agree and am close to you in age. I think it takes life experience to learn this and it is hard to debate with someone much younger.

Life is a journey and hoepfully a learning process as well.

The GIRL with low self-esteem will be wildly attracted to the good-looking abusive asshole that treats her like shit (me being larger than life illustration). When THE WOMAN has had enough bullshit she will wise up and only pay attention to THE NICE MAN. Money is important for some but not all. If A MAN has reached his mid 40's and hasnt a pot to piss in then how smart/driven could he be? In other words if said man is say, a juice-head with guns of steel but no bank because he blows it all on laser hair removal, tanning, protein powder, juice and GH then WTF value does he have?

Generally women value security and men value beauty. All else stems from this. If said successful man is only interested in a trophy then he deserves being taken to the cleaners. If said pretty woman is only interested in Gucci and Prada then she has nothing to complain about when her man emotionally abandons her (or was never emotionally invested to begin with as it was easier for him to simply write a check).

It isnt all that complicated.

 

[rocky_road]

manipulating you?? wtf? i'm telling you like it is. I will never treat a woman that way.....even if it means i'm the nice guy that doesn't get the pussy.I'm just relaying what i've observed in women over the past 12 or so years. How am i trying to change you by the way?

I did not mean to imply that you're trying to change my pattern of thinking. I just feel like if women hear over and over again that they are "looking for" or "more attracted to" guys who are assholes, then women who wouldn't naturally think that way will start to....and I think some of that has happened in society.

Women:
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005...ngersinears.jpg
(If you need a guy for direction teaching you how to act, follow this one)

 

[Lestat]

I did not mean to imply that you're trying to change my pattern of thinking. I just feel like if women hear over and over again that they are "looking for" or "more attracted to" guys who are assholes, then women who wouldn't naturally think that way will start to....and I think some of that has happened in society.

Women:
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005...ngersinears.jpg
(If you need a guy for direction teaching you how to act, follow this one)

that link didn't work

 

[rocky_road]

***This is for younger women, I know most older woman don't want assholes***

It's simple really. "Nice" guys don't usually get the girl because "nice" typically means no confidence. The "nice" guy who does get the girl usually loses her quickly because girls want a man not a little pussy in a relationship. Girls are drawn to the asshole because they usually put off a fall sense of confidence.

Then we are debating the definition of the adjective "nice."

Isn't it ironic that assholes tend to be confident? Should not trustworthy, giving partners be more confident in their relationships? The reason they are not is because those givers are actually dependent on their partners. This leaves absolutely no room for those self-confident people who will also not try to "use" their partners. Since their are so many categories of people, we should then try to steer away from the cliches "nice guys" and such because they aren't very good ones, and instead be more descriptive in our analysis of people.