a creed said:everything OK Bro??
Frisky said:IMHO, she's wrapping you up in this web of deceit. Constant lies, and shady behavior.
blueta2 said:She has no gun to his head.
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biteme said:but I'm not gonna close my eyes around her after what I saw.
blueta2 said:I must correct ya here Frisk...she is not doing anything to him. He is making choices and doing it all to himself.
She has no gun to his head.
Biteme obviously has an intense need for this drama or we would not be reading all these posts on his on and off again situation.
Frisky said:B, you should have called a cab and paid for her fair to get to her destination. IMHO, she's wrapping you up in this web of deceit. Constant lies, and shady behavior. Is your sanity worth it? You allow her to stay ONE MORE NIGHT, she calms down, you both talk... and then she thinks its all ok. UNTIL tomorrow night when she does the same. Her behavior wasn't a one time thing, its been repetitive. Shows alot about her character (mentally ill or not) and its not healthy for you at this time.
gonelifting said:"Drama" is a relative term. One person's drama could be someone elses "good morning hun".
Frankly, I'm surprised at Biteme for geting himself into this mess. From all his posts I thought he was beyond that, and knew better. Maybe it does get you from left field. Who knows. Gotta give him some slack.
blueta2 said:I must correct ya here Frisk...she is not doing anything to him. He is making choices and doing it all to himself.
She has no gun to his head.
Biteme obviously has an intense need for this drama or we would not be reading all these posts on his on and off again situation.
Frisky said:We all make decisions that in time we regret, he seems to truely care for this girl and she's taking that to her advantage. Have you ever cared for someone and allowed flaw's to subside because of it? I know I have, with family and friends. She knows the course of her actions and is playing in her field. She knows he loves her and if she googles up to him the storm cloud blows over and all is well until the NEXT episode of drama. I (and if you read correctly) said I don't know her and she may be a wonderful woman... but he's allowed her to do this to him over and over again and its not healthy... therfore he needs to bail. BE DONE with all this bullshit.
If you know B, and have talked to him then you will know that he's a very giving person, she apparently also knows this and is taking it to her full advantage. Its sad what we will do and take from those we love, but sometimes that is life.
It can be looked at two ways... what is the difference between this and a woman whom is beat up often by her bf, and doesn't leave because 'he loves her?' emotional and physical abuse are on the same playing field IMO. Its not only women whom endure these speed bumps, men do too. Its hard to let love go and move on, and seems B has love for this girl, and wants to make something that isn't there. She's taking advantage of his sympathy and his kindheart. Thats all I'm saying, she knows what she's doing and I'll be damned if I will say he's wrong in this situation. She is an adult, as is he. He needs to just walk away, she's no damn fool... She's no virgin to this drama either.
Frisky said:We all make decisions that in time we regret, he seems to truely care for this girl and she's taking that to her advantage. Have you ever cared for someone and allowed flaw's to subside because of it? I know I have, with family and friends. She knows the course of her actions and is playing in her field. She knows he loves her and if she googles up to him the storm cloud blows over and all is well until the NEXT episode of drama. I (and if you read correctly) said I don't know her and she may be a wonderful woman... but he's allowed her to do this to him over and over again and its not healthy... therfore he needs to bail. BE DONE with all this bullshit.
If you know B, and have talked to him then you will know that he's a very giving person, she apparently also knows this and is taking it to her full advantage. Its sad what we will do and take from those we love, but sometimes that is life.
It can be looked at two ways... what is the difference between this and a woman whom is beat up often by her bf, and doesn't leave because 'he loves her?' emotional and physical abuse are on the same playing field IMO. Its not only women whom endure these speed bumps, men do too. Its hard to let love go and move on, and seems B has love for this girl, and wants to make something that isn't there. She's taking advantage of his sympathy and his kindheart. Thats all I'm saying, she knows what she's doing and I'll be damned if I will say he's wrong in this situation. She is an adult, as is he. He needs to just walk away, she's no damn fool... She's no virgin to this drama either.

BIKINIMOM said:Whose fault was it that I chose to remain in an emotionally abusive marriage that ended when it finally escalated to physical abuse after 13 years? I accept full responsibility for my role but I was barely 21.
Now I am pushing 40 and because of my children I am tied to that bastard forever. Could you as a mother "let go" of the only thing tying you to Lucipher?.... think on that for a moment. You dont have to answer.
Now... 20 years and lots of therapy later NO ONE ABUSES ME. Because I wont allow it. No lying, no cheating, no yelling, no screaming, no taking advantage of because I said NO MORE.
My sister and her family are my only family. The rest are abusive and I have no time for them. Call it cold-hearted. I call it self-preservation.
This is not assign the blame game. The bitch is whacked especially when another man wants to care for her child. Men like that dont come around every day. But - biteme has to assume responsibility for his role. The BITCH played him and he should chalk it up to "life lesson" and move on before he REALLY gets hurt.... butterfly knife?!![]()
Frisky said:Oh believe me... theres alot more to my story than I would EVER post here on EF. I ASSUME RESPONSIBILIYT, for allowing bullshit like that to happen. I've never been abused (as you have) and thats because of my bitchy strong attitude and having to stand up for myself for years on end.
Though I strongly believe B should have bailed the first go round, whom is the victim here? None of us know right? none of us are sitting in his home seeing what goes on. AND AS I HAVE STATED... she may be a great girl, I don't know. He's allowed her to walk all over him over and over in hopes of making something out of nothing. She took advantage of it. She also knows her actions and how to work them to her advantage.
In a nutshell, he just needs to bail... while he can and before it gets ugly.
blueta2 said:Yeah my ex was (and am sure still is) a drug addict and I allowed him to mistreat our relationship. It was a few yrs of hell with him. I stayed, I made a mistake I rectified it and I hope Biteme can also.
biteme said:I did sweety. This time it's final. I can't even post what happened because I don't have proof, but based on her behavior, my suspicions are enough.
Frisky said:its easy to give advice, hard as hell to take it esp when you have feelings for someone. Been there done that... How else do we learn besides by making mistakes of our own? Not always the best way, but a way.
biteme said:I did sweety. This time it's final. I can't even post what happened because I don't have proof, but based on her behavior, my suspicions are enough.
blueta2 said:I agree, hard to put theory into practice, but its harder to live in pain.
blueta2 said:I agree, hard to put theory into practice, but its harder to live in pain.

Frisky said:its amazing how many more opt to live in pain isn't it? Fear is our worse enemy, beit finaciall, or just being alone... our worse enemy
mustang_00 said:is that you in your avi BM?? if so i'm willing to offer you a sega genisis along with mortal kombat 3 AND nba jam tournament addition to money shot on you. or atleast pull your hair
awww and i dedicate my 1000th post to you to sway your answer
Great offer *cough* but I hope you arent too disappointed that I will have to pass. LOL
BIKINIMOM said:Not really... what it really is all about is the fear of the unknown. When engaging in these sorts of relationships at least "you know" what to expect. Stepping out of that into something new is scary.
I am STILL (on a very base level) waiting for my man to *snap* change into EVERY OTHER ASSHOLE MAN that I had chosen for myself. He laughs when I say that. "Darling, how could I EVER be anything but loving to you?"
I am so fortunate that he chose me and that I LET HIM pursue me.
Frisky said:but the thing of it is BM, YOU have ALREADY gone thru this bullshit... You see the signs and are waiting and ready for them. Not everyone had endured your pain and is waiting for someone to snap. YOU personally learned from the mistakes and the things you endured. Now you are a stronger person.
Frisky said:but the thing of it is BM, YOU have ALREADY gone thru this bullshit... You see the signs and are waiting and ready for them. Not everyone had endured your pain and is waiting for someone to snap. YOU personally learned from the mistakes and the things you endured. Now you are a stronger person.
blueta2 said:Frisk, you just made KEY point. She learned from her mistakes. Not everyone does and will keep repeating them over and over. That's when it's time to get some help to work on who you are so you can identify the ppl you attract.
Frisky said:I've bent over backwards to help many of people, family, friends... none to ever appreciate it either. I am now learning from that, took time and tears and lots of emotion to realize that some people don't appreciate a kind heart.
biteme said:potentially crazy woman in my house. I tried to take her home but she refused saying it was too late. I'm taking her home first thing in the morning, but I'm not gonna close my eyes around her after what I saw.
blueta2 said:Sad but true, many do not appreciate kindness. People who do not appreciate kindness are mostly just lost in their "lives" their "hurts" etc....Most ppl don't wake up or go to bed with thoughts on how to hurt ppl. Most ppl just function on "survival" mode and in turn hurt others unbeknownst to them.
Best bet, we need to surround ourselvs with positive souls
I appreciate your kind heart![]()
Frisky said:My heart will ALWAYS be kind and giving, i've been stabbed times over by those that I love the most. But still I will always be there for them. Call me a sucker... I know it. Family/blood and what I wouldn't do for them.
blueta2 said:Not a sucker...Being stabbed by those we love/loved teaches us emotional strength. This is the kind of strength you cannot get from a book or a therapist. Learning from pain is the truest way to gain strength.
Life lessons are hard and good hearted ppl get hurt the most
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