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[jmead]

This post is long but i want to be sure i get everything out in the open before i make the purchase and start this cycle..

wk 1-4 dbol 30mg ED morning,mid day, afternoon dose
wk 1-13 Test E 300 mg EW mon thurs injections
wk 1-12 EQ 400mg EW mon thurs injections
wk 1-13 aromasin EOD 20mg (is this proper dosing?) i might lower once i see how bad bloat/gyno is
wk 7-8 hcg 1000mg wk mon thurs injection (revive my boys)

wk 14-15 hcg 1000mg wk mon thurs inj. (hello boys)
wk 1-19 AIFM 2 sprays a day..morning and night application
wk 16-19 nolva 40mg ED, 30mg ED, 20mg ED, 20mg ED
wk 16-19 clomid 100mg ED, 50mg ED, 50mg ED, 25 mg ED

6'5'' 215lbs 21 yrs old 10% bf
3rd cycle, first 2 were deca only, gained around 10-15 off first, as a newbie with no pct no proper dosing, gained 25lbs off second, just eating like an animal no pct pyramid dosage like a dummy..

I am expecting 10-15 pounds of lean mass gains .. i hope that the eq will cut down on the bloat by the end of the cycle.. i want to keep estrogen in check and prevent gyno at all costs (have plenty of nolva/aromasin on hand plus running AIFM throughout cycle)..

one concern i have is my liver, is taking aromasin throughout the cycle going to fuck my liver? i just got bloodwork done a week ago and all my levels were normal, superdrol really fucked my liver values but they are back to normal now.. ill be taking milk thistle/fish oil/hawthorn berry throughout cycle.. plus BCAA and amino 2222 capsules, and probably include some creatine unless the pumps break my back.. im going to be DOWNING protein shakes and stay on a high protein diet..

right now..

bench 310
squat 325 (i have a 38'' inseam, squats arent very fun)
dead lift 400

im thinking this is going to go up quiet a bit..

lets hear some predictions on gains? is this a lean mass bulker? will i end this cycle bloated? i want as much info as possible before i start.. to see if i should modify anything..

thanks for everyones info for the past weeks, ive found this to be one of the top notch forums ive been posting at..

 

[jmead]

bump, 16 views and not one comment? come on now dont make me eat my words

 

[VascularitY]

bump up the EQ to 600mg/week and run it for the same length as your test, i would also run the test at 500mg/week. Aromasin shouldnt have negative effect on your liver and I dont see a need running the AIFM if your taking Aromasin EOD. 20mg EOD is a good dosage. Also HCG mid cycle is pointless IMO, save it for the end, unless your just looking for the aesthetics of having big nuts for that week. Good luck

 

[Big O]

Save the hcg for shutdown.....ie tren....20 mgs e/d of nolva is all you need its cheap easily availble and works.....

 

[gautho]

bump up the EQ to 600mg/week and run it for the same length as your test, i would also run the test at 500mg/week. Aromasin shouldnt have negative effect on your liver and I dont see a need running the AIFM if your taking Aromasin EOD. 20mg EOD is a good dosage. Also HCG mid cycle is pointless IMO, save it for the end, unless your just looking for the aesthetics of having big nuts for that week. Good luck

I agree, bump the enanthate to 500mg/wk and the EQ to 600mg/wk and extend those 2 compounds to 16 weeks because you don't start seeing the fruitition of EQ until weeks 8-9.

 

[AhMadKooL]

Aromasin has a very little effect on the liver:
http://www.rxcarecanada.com/aromasin.asp?prodid=127

It says:
"The pharmacokinetics of exemestane have been investigated in subjects with moderate and severe hepatic insufficiency. Following a single 25-mg oral dose, the AUC of exemestane was approximately 3 times higher than that observed in healthy volunteers. However no dosage adjustment is required for patients with liver impairment since exemestane was well tolerated in patients with breast cancer at doses 8 to 24 times higher than the recommended 25-mg daily dose."

 

[jmead]

all 3 of these compounds are new to my body, and you all are recommending i pump 1.2 grams of aas in my body for my 3rd cycle? when my first 2 were deca alone like 200-300mg a week? reasoning?

 

[AhMadKooL]

all 3 of these compounds are new to my body, and you all are recommending i pump 1.2 grams of aas in my body for my 3rd cycle? when my first 2 were deca alone like 200-300mg a week? reasoning?

As a minimum dose I recommend the following:

week 1 - 12 test 500mg/week
week 1 - 12 EQ 400 mg/week

 

[jmead]

if i run the dbol wk 1-4 at 30-40mg would i still blow up like a blimp if i was running aromasin and AIFM.. or would that help control some of the bloat?

 

[solidspine]

Also tylers liver detox.

 

[jmead]

for the bloat.. or your sayin for liver protection .. ill be takin milk thistle too

 

[macrophage69alpha]

if i run the dbol wk 1-4 at 30-40mg would i still blow up like a blimp if i was running aromasin and AIFM.. or would that help control some of the bloat?

AIFM will significantly help with bloat from DBOL in particular, aromasin will help but to a lesser extent.

 

[jmead]

thanks macro was hopin ud reply, what about aifm helps directly with dbol? u have any suggestions for my cycle?

 

[macrophage69alpha]

because it also inhibits 5 beta reduction which is the enyzyme pathway by which DBOL and EQ are significantly reduced.

 

[jmead]

so.. in retard terms.. it keeps the bloat off from the eq and dbol.. your too smart for me thanks im hearing from other forums that i should drop the dbol and just up the test.. but i wont see results for 3-4 weeks.. and i dont want to run test at a high dose for 13 weeks.. aromatizing so highly at that high dose.. (fear of gyno) wouldnt it just be smarter to run dbol 3-4 wks at 30mg a day to get strength gains right away and put on some muslce mass fast or up my test dosage throughout cycle.. keep in mind.. scared of estrogen related sides

 

[needtogetaas]

aaaaaahhh kill that shit bro.and holy shit you got a lot going on in that cycle dont ya.

 

[jmead]

kill what? haha.. and what could i cut out thats "so much going on" most of its just anti-e.. ive decided not to run the hcg til after the cycle before pct..

 

[Bruce]

eq is pointless under 16 weeks imo. 14 minimum.

 

[off_safety]

eq is pointless under 16 weeks imo. 14 minimum.

bruce, mad respect-but eq is pointless under 16 wks? cmon, man- ive ran eq for 10 weeks, and saw great results. although i s'ppose they couldve been better if i ran it longer, but i was cut like a mofo, and could run for DAYS.(i took it for fooseball w/ deca) i was pleased.

 

[Bruce]

14 minimum i said but 12 is a waste. week 10 is when it really hits. you should have stayed on longer the gains are just peaking

 

[jmead]

im not worried about length ill have plenty of gear to extend my cycle if i havent seen the gains i wanted yet.. but as far as the setup.. what do u think bruce?

 

[Bruce]

its set up fine. i think that aifm is a better choice while you are on eq and dbol as it is much more effective for that type of bloat.