I Want A Body Like Bruce Lee.

[olympia4ever]

Mate, you missed the point...if you want to talk about bodybuilders thoughts and beliefs...look at arnolds, he was of the same era as bruce...but in this case steve reeves was the man...he came before bruce, he was natural aswell...so before one quates bruce at how special he was, it may be true that he was special...it may be true that he was special in related areas to bodybuilding such as determination...but perhaps it would be better to relate those ideas to real bodybuilders like arnold...his thoughts about training and his effort and determination was outstanding, and it was geared towards bodybuilding...steve reeves came before bruce...look at his determination...as for the quotes of strength, it is also obvious that pro bodybuilders would do things to out perform bruce aswell...this is simply because BRUCE WAS NOT A BODYBUILDER. Therefore he does not represent bodybuilding, as his goals were not geared towards it...maybe it would be interesting to see who he was influenced by aswell...but as far as bodybuilding as a sport is concerned it is about physical looks...not mental state of welbeing...in either way arnold's thoughts were geared towards bodybuilding far more than bruces...(he used gear aswell so it has more relevence to this board aswell, lol ...that was a bit cheesy)...respect to bruce...but play it with your own...arnold's mentality towards life suits bodybuilding to a tee...and i doubt they were influenced by each other...make a note that never once was bruce disrespected, infact he was praised on many occasion but not towards bodybuilding...put him with arnold on stage at a bb contest see what would have happened, you simply cant compare...

Lastly...did you say that you couldnt get as low bodyfat as bruce without drugs? if that is true how did he get to that state? He was a human being, if he could, then others can...simple...reeves physique was thought to be natural aswell...so you see it is possible. Besides...on stage at the o...pro bodybuilders at 3% b/f probably have lower bodyfat than him...this is because they have MUCH more lean body mass...therefore their % decreases. Bye.

 

[Silent Method]

I can't let this one go.

Olympia4ever...

Where do we start here. Your assertion that this thread be moved might hold water only because Bruce's training had very little to do with drugs. However, Bruce's training is something that you might want to check into just a little bit before you come down on anyone for claiming him to outclass bodybuilders.

The fact of the matter is that Bruce was everything bodybuilding SHOULD be. He was a marriage of physicality, developed to perfection for its purpose, and sprituality, also developed to its purpose. He was constantly evolving into a better version of himself. In every area. He had mastered himself, physically and mentally.

Take another look at his physique at its finest, which was not until his latest years. At one point his bodyfat was almost neglegible. However, his strength did not suffer. You want to fool yourself that you could starve into that condition without drugs, go ahead. He was WAY ahead of his time. You asked if I have ever seen the master bodybuilders train? Hell, all we have nowadays is videos of 'haardcore training from the masters'...and while I can certainly respect some of the achievements, it is impossible to ignore the emphasis always being on drugs. I wonder why that is? Do you really believe that Dorian Yates trained with the intensity that Bruce did? I can tell you for a fact that they were in two different mental arenas, and intensity is always a MENTAL aspect.

Bruce LIVED A PHILOSOPHY. He inspired people like Dorian because his philosophy was overwhelming in its power, in its result. Bodybuilders who met him were not so overwhelmed by his physique as by his POWER, both mental and physical.

Name one bodybuilder who can do a front lateral hold with his bodyweight. Bruce could hold his own weight out in front of him, arms locked. If you think that is because he was skinny, think again. Not many can do that. Or a one handed pull up. You know anyone who can do one? At my strongest ever, I did ONE, badly, and I can do more than 50 two handed pulls.

Bruce was the amalgamation of what most bodybuilders claim to be. He was revered by the best bodybuilders in the world for a reason, and to suggest that this forum is not connected to those reasons is shortsighted.

Now then. Whoever said above that Bruce was no better than Steven Segal...jeez...what an occluded individual. So let me enlighten...

Bruce, let us not forget, married two cultures, and did it publicly. He arrived at a time when racism was rampant, and when many people's feeling toward Asians as a whole was very negative. Moreover, he came to INSTRUCT and to SHARE, as well as to GROW and DEVELOP himself. He was relentlessly helpful to those who asked, and very very patient with those who followed. He gave of himself, both to the industry that mistreated him and to the people who eventually disrespected him. You say he won no major tournaments. Hmmm. You think he was in a great many? While your listing the tournaments that he lost, why don't you list the people who defeated him? Find his naysayer among skilled fighters, bro. Where is his defeator? Where is his superior? Steven Segal is a charlatan who is able to make movies BECAUSE OF WHAT BRUCE HIMSELF PIONEERED. Segal is a liar and when he was called out by those who are in the know he ran like the fucking coward that he is. Gene Lebelle (sp) had no trouble choking Segal out in a scuffle, and Gene is an old man. Bruce brought a culture with him, and it remained and grew because of his efforts. You should study him, bro...or if nothing else, learn a little about someone before you trashtalk them. Ignorance can be corrected, but attitude is another story. Start by correcting your ignorance.

 

[olympia4ever]

Infact, whilst on this topic of using steroids to get you past your potential... i am a firm believer that one should get close to his her potential before using gear...that means getting close to reeves, as good or better than him before one uses them...not to anyone in general...but looking at some peoples pics it is quite obvious that even with steroids they havent got to their gentic potential...its like they just want to take shortcuts...anyway, everyone has their own right to do what they want if it doesnt harm others...so if they want to, if it makes them happy, then cool.

 

[olympia4ever]

Well there is a mutual disagreement...my thoughts are that bodybuilders are bodybuilders and that martial artists are martial artists.

 

[winstrol69]

Couple things Lee did...
Busted open a 100lb punching bag with one kick (it also flew 10 feet in the air).

Stabbed an unopened soda can with his finger(cans were thicker back then to)

Could hit so hard he once dislocated someones jaw with one punch.

Invented the one inch punch. This is a punch where you place your fist so it is touching someones chest, then strike hard from there. He could make people fall back 5 feet with this.

 

[Pharm Animal]

FUKKEN....

damn bro, i think i need to read into Bruce Lee's philosophy...sounds very practical to me.

Well there is a mutual disagreement...my thoughts are that bodybuilders are bodybuilders and that martial artists are martial artists.

O4E...wow bro! crack a book every once in a while...k?

PA

 

[Pharm Animal]

...get close to his her potential before using gear...that means getting close to reeves, as good or better than him before one uses them...not to anyone in general...

LMAO! does your cereberum ache?

 

[fistfullofsteel]

morons, thats what you are. bruce lees was amazing and even the real bodybuilders respected him. even guys bigger than you numbnuts.

http://www.mikementzer.com/blee.html

dj-

FROM THE ARTICLE: "He had the most incredible set of lats I'd ever seen," recalled Kimura, "and his big joke was to pretend that his thumb was an air hose, which he'd then put in his mouth and pretend to inflate his lats with. He looked like a damn cobra when he did that!"

I said it before and will say it again. His lat spread was out of this world. The best I have seen.

 

[trial0r]

lets hope this post is a joke...for 3 reasons...

1. You do not need to take any form of anabolic or androgenic steroids to get a body like bruce lee's...he did it naturally and his genetics were probably not like arnold's or sergios at all.

2. Secondly...why are you on this board? anabolic steroids (incidently this board is called anabolic discussion board) are useful for bodybuilders (other athletes aswell) that want to go further than their genetic potential...if you are impressed by bruce lee's physique, you are no bodybuilder. (Bruce achieved some great things, his films, his basis, his combat, so the utmost respect for him)...But he is no bodybuilder is he?...this post should perhaps be in the diet board, because you dont need steroids to get a physique like his, perhaps it should be moved.

3. Lastly, how can you sum up everyone on this board without having a clue about how hard people train (you said that bruce's training would put us all to shame)...how can you say this? have you seen everyone on here train? there might be some pro bodybuilders on this board, would you say that bruces training would put theirs to shame? how could you say that...you cant say that his training would put everyones to shame, cos most of us are bodybuilders and are not trying to train to be a great martial artist.

Wasn't trying to flame you or anything, but just picked up on a few points...its your decision what you want to look like, but if you want to look like Bruce, then there probably isnt much need for any steroids of any sort because you couldget to that shape naturally, look at natural bodybuilders...some are more cut and more muscular. Anyway...in no way is this supposed to disrespect Bruce. He is someone that people can look up to for all encouragement and as a mentor of the mind...but as a bodybuilder wouldnt really look up to his physique, then again some women like guys with phyqiues like that...but not all of us do this for sexual enhancement...some do it to feel the pump and get that rush...win some titles. Fairplay dude...just giving you an insight...tried not to flame...train hard.

wow...leave this place now.

 

[TieRex]

morons, thats what you are. bruce lees was amazing and even the real bodybuilders respected him. even guys bigger than you numbnuts.

http://www.mikementzer.com/blee.html

dj-

HAHA!!! You tell'em... Finally somebody that knows their shit...