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I Want A Body Like Bruce Lee.

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I would love the incredible definition and strenght that he had. And he was not even huge. Anybody else amazed by his physique and how did he got that way? Was it genetics? etc.
 
If you read my post i said he was not huge, but i admired his strenght and definition. Size is not the same as definition obviously. I would love to have his definition even thou i am much bigger than he is.
 
He was small. So are atomic warheads.

I'm very amazed and inspired by Bruce Lee. If you want to develop along the lines he did, you must train like hee did. I'm not exaggerating when I say his dedication, training, and phiosophy would put anyone here to shame.
 
yeah he was defined, but he was so small. i'd love to have more definition and retain lots of size. havent heard anything about his strength. whats up with that?
 
He was very strong. More importantly, he was extraordinarily powerful. His stamina, his wind, and his skill, as well as his power, were superhuman.
 
I'd prefer to have the look of the guy that was played Chung Lee in Bloodsport as well as many other movies. He's pretty short but, he's one stout asian & a bad Mofo to go along w/it!
 
I don't want his size obviously, i would never like that be that small. But i would like to have a very small fat percentage. Maybe if i take lots of clen.
 
He had problems from what I understand, like many of us. There are rumors he used steroids and I don't doubt it. He would diet HARD and faint and get rushed to the hospital during filming and shit. He was a hard worker and his body was perfect for his sport.
 
Check out his book which details his training regime. Arnold said that Bruce Lee had the most impressive physique that he has ever seen.
 
Try intense cardio about 6 to 8 HOURS a day.He trained his cardio vascular system to the point of physical exhaustion EVERY day.He was shredded to the bone,but there is only a handful of individuals on the planet that could keep up with that type of regimen on a daily basis.He was designed purely as a fighting machine of explosiveness.That is a very heavily cardio-built physique.
 
HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex said:
Try intense cardio about 6 to 8 HOURS a day.He trained his cardio vascular system to the point of physical exhaustion EVERY day.He was shredded to the bone,but there is only a handful of individuals on the planet that could keep up with that type of regimen on a daily basis.He was designed purely as a fighting machine of explosiveness.That is a very heavily cardio-built physique.
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He did do a lot of cardio. He would get on a stationary bike and work on it for hours shirtless with a sweat band around his waist. After he was done, there was always a pool of sweat and I do mean a pool. His philosophy was never lose a fight because you are out of shape or the other guy is in better shape than you.

He was a fan of Arnold and supposedly was a bigtime reader of IronMan Magazine, according to IronMan Mag.

Rent the movie Return of the Dragon with Bruce and Chuck Norris. Bruce does a lat spread and it's the most impressive lat spread I have seen in my life. I showed it to my friends and played it in slow motion and paused it and they were all freaked out. Quote, "his back looks like a cobra when they are about to attack."

I have seen a ton of pics and have seen a ton of big guys and skinny guys that are ripped to the bone, but still nobody even comes close to bruce lee's physique. His body took a lot of hard work.

According to IronMag, he had 15 inch forearms. His philosophy was that the forearm is very a dense muscle and should be worked everyday along with abs.
 
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You have to understand that Bruce Lee's body was a side effect of his single-mindedness. He had little concern for his appearance. His focus was FUNCTION. He trained for FUNCTIONAL STRENGTH, and on a pound for pound basis he was one of the strongest men to ever live. His strength came from his mind more than his body...his body simply followed the lead of his mind.

If you want to look like that you are going to have to forget about size forever. There is a point of diminishing returns in terms of form and function of the human musculature. However, it is doable, provided you can find the discipline for it.

Bruce is a major influence for me, both in regard to his physique and in regard to his philosophy. May I suggest that you begin by reading his books and other's accounts of his life. He was truly an enigma, and had he lived longer he would have had a significant impact on western philosophy as a whole.

I strive for that ultra dense look myself, but I find that if I emphasize things like pound for pound strength and flexibility, that look starts to materialize anyway. For example, I can do between 50 and 60 pull-ups, fairly good form. I do 30, strict, easy, complete with pauses on top and bottom. When I rip down my back is lined out like that. I'm skinny, mind you...I weigh only 175, but when I go to 170 I am like stained oak. I use winny whenever I can get my hands on it (NOT LATELY, DAMN!), and that seems to really help with strength. At my strongest I benched 335 at a bodyweight of 168.

I am 5'10 or so.

Forearm strength comes from lifting heavy weight every day, without straps. I never train them seperately, and mine are 15 or better. My biceps are only 16, maybe 16.5 on a good pump and carbed up. I can curl 135 for reps, strict, although when I am not on I can only do it once or twice.

I became dedicated to form/function training through exposure to competitive fighting (I do not participate as I am not qualified) and as I studied the philosophies of Mr. Lee I became much more focused.

He is an admirable figure to emulate. Good luck with it.
 
For those of you that haven't had the privelage of seeing his pics,fukkenshredded's physique looks like Bruce's,with about 30 lbs more LBM.He lives up to his name and then some...
 
That is true.... fukkenshredded you definitely deserve props for your very impressive physique as well as your training methodology and intensity.
 
During track season I'd have the Bruce look. I dunno how the hell that guy stayed that way year round....for me it just did not feel healthy at all. You also only look big shirtless. Covered up you look just like a normal person.

Fukkenshredded runs alot of sprints when dropping bodyfat. I think it not only drops bodyfat but all the explosive work gives a certain hardness and density.
 
his definition was insane and his body fat was outrageously low. thats what you get for having that sort of dedication. i mean he trained for hours and hours a day.
 
According to Pavel Tsatsouline Bruce Lee owed his abs to isometric training..
 
supertech69 said:
Can one of you platinum members post one for us?
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Shredded, I hope this is cool...if not let me know and Ill take it down. Flick gave me this pic a few months ago when a bunch of us were debating between Fukkenshredded vs SAF.;)
 
I can't see the pics for some reason. Could be this damn Linux machine. Maybe I should get back to work.
 
id take fukkenshreddeds bod over bruces anyday. ive seen your pic on anabolic a few times, and your the most influencial pic ive seen on the net, ever. i got a ton of respect for you. your training is insane.
 
superchicken said:
id take fukkenshreddeds bod over bruces anyday. ive seen your pic on anabolic a few times, and your the most influencial pic ive seen on the net, ever. i got a ton of respect for you. your training is insane.
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I take it you have read his long report on windsprints and the science behind them. Fuckin good read.
 
I had a sensei that said that Bruce lived and died like the samurai he was. He , like samurais, had an incredible capacity of flowing and concentrating his CHI, making him almost invencible. He could focus his energy to break, melt, destroi anything within his reach.
This old japanese man ( the sensei) also said that samurais were trained to be warriors and the amount of vital energy spent usually shorten their lives. I never quite believed that, but I always liked to hear him telling this story...
Anyway, he is still truly inspiring...
 
I have know about Bruce Lee for years, and from what i know, he had one of the most intense training of any other athlete in history.
 
FS very impressive bro

im posting my pics july 10, try be that shredded at 195 same height
 
DAMN FS!!! That is the ideal physique right there as far as I'm concerned! good work kid, I'm sure everyone would be a lil more interested in some of the methedology you apply to your training? I'm gonna do a search in case you've already put some of it up.
 
Tell me where to send them and I will give you a couple of recent pics. The fact is that I am not in that shape year round by any means. Furthermore, I am not in that shape right now...lol. But I am getting there.

And there is NO comparing me to SAF...that guy has me beat seven ways to Sunday. In a shirt, I look normal, except for maybe forearms. I guarantee you that SAF doesn't look normal ever, regardless of what he is wearing. He is a bodybuilder, though, and I am not. I have to admit that I envy his back development, though!

Thanks for the props, guys.
 
he was a fucking movie bad ass, he never won any big tournaments, so fuck him.......he is no better than steven seagal
 
If you're serious about wanting to approximate Bruce Lee's physique, a good start would be getting involved in gymnastics. The training that gymnasts endure is specifically designed to develop that sort of physique and strength.
 
lets hope this post is a joke...for 3 reasons...

1. You do not need to take any form of anabolic or androgenic steroids to get a body like bruce lee's...he did it naturally and his genetics were probably not like arnold's or sergios at all.

2. Secondly...why are you on this board? anabolic steroids (incidently this board is called anabolic discussion board) are useful for bodybuilders (other athletes aswell) that want to go further than their genetic potential...if you are impressed by bruce lee's physique, you are no bodybuilder. (Bruce achieved some great things, his films, his basis, his combat, so the utmost respect for him)...But he is no bodybuilder is he?...this post should perhaps be in the diet board, because you dont need steroids to get a physique like his, perhaps it should be moved.

3. Lastly, how can you sum up everyone on this board without having a clue about how hard people train (you said that bruce's training would put us all to shame)...how can you say this? have you seen everyone on here train? there might be some pro bodybuilders on this board, would you say that bruces training would put theirs to shame? how could you say that...you cant say that his training would put everyones to shame, cos most of us are bodybuilders and are not trying to train to be a great martial artist.

Wasn't trying to flame you or anything, but just picked up on a few points...its your decision what you want to look like, but if you want to look like Bruce, then there probably isnt much need for any steroids of any sort because you couldget to that shape naturally, look at natural bodybuilders...some are more cut and more muscular. Anyway...in no way is this supposed to disrespect Bruce. He is someone that people can look up to for all encouragement and as a mentor of the mind...but as a bodybuilder wouldnt really look up to his physique, then again some women like guys with phyqiues like that...but not all of us do this for sexual enhancement...some do it to feel the pump and get that rush...win some titles. Fairplay dude...just giving you an insight...tried not to flame...train hard.
 
I can't let this one go.

Olympia4ever...

Where do we start here. Your assertion that this thread be moved might hold water only because Bruce's training had very little to do with drugs. However, Bruce's training is something that you might want to check into just a little bit before you come down on anyone for claiming him to outclass bodybuilders.

The fact of the matter is that Bruce was everything bodybuilding SHOULD be. He was a marriage of physicality, developed to perfection for its purpose, and sprituality, also developed to its purpose. He was constantly evolving into a better version of himself. In every area. He had mastered himself, physically and mentally.

Take another look at his physique at its finest, which was not until his latest years. At one point his bodyfat was almost neglegible. However, his strength did not suffer. You want to fool yourself that you could starve into that condition without drugs, go ahead. He was WAY ahead of his time. You asked if I have ever seen the master bodybuilders train? Hell, all we have nowadays is videos of 'haardcore training from the masters'...and while I can certainly respect some of the achievements, it is impossible to ignore the emphasis always being on drugs. I wonder why that is? Do you really believe that Dorian Yates trained with the intensity that Bruce did? I can tell you for a fact that they were in two different mental arenas, and intensity is always a MENTAL aspect.

Bruce LIVED A PHILOSOPHY. He inspired people like Dorian because his philosophy was overwhelming in its power, in its result. Bodybuilders who met him were not so overwhelmed by his physique as by his POWER, both mental and physical.

Name one bodybuilder who can do a front lateral hold with his bodyweight. Bruce could hold his own weight out in front of him, arms locked. If you think that is because he was skinny, think again. Not many can do that. Or a one handed pull up. You know anyone who can do one? At my strongest ever, I did ONE, badly, and I can do more than 50 two handed pulls.

Bruce was the amalgamation of what most bodybuilders claim to be. He was revered by the best bodybuilders in the world for a reason, and to suggest that this forum is not connected to those reasons is shortsighted.

Now then. Whoever said above that Bruce was no better than Steven Segal...jeez...what an occluded individual. So let me enlighten...

Bruce, let us not forget, married two cultures, and did it publicly. He arrived at a time when racism was rampant, and when many people's feeling toward Asians as a whole was very negative. Moreover, he came to INSTRUCT and to SHARE, as well as to GROW and DEVELOP himself. He was relentlessly helpful to those who asked, and very very patient with those who followed. He gave of himself, both to the industry that mistreated him and to the people who eventually disrespected him. You say he won no major tournaments. Hmmm. You think he was in a great many? While your listing the tournaments that he lost, why don't you list the people who defeated him? Find his naysayer among skilled fighters, bro. Where is his defeator? Where is his superior? Steven Segal is a charlatan who is able to make movies BECAUSE OF WHAT BRUCE HIMSELF PIONEERED. Segal is a liar and when he was called out by those who are in the know he ran like the fucking coward that he is. Gene Lebelle (sp) had no trouble choking Segal out in a scuffle, and Gene is an old man. Bruce brought a culture with him, and it remained and grew because of his efforts. You should study him, bro...or if nothing else, learn a little about someone before you trashtalk them. Ignorance can be corrected, but attitude is another story. Start by correcting your ignorance.
 
Speaking of bolo yeung.............



Have you seen his son in the new FLEX Magazine??????????//


He's DIesel!! and hi's back/..... god damn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Mate, you missed the point...if you want to talk about bodybuilders thoughts and beliefs...look at arnolds, he was of the same era as bruce...but in this case steve reeves was the man...he came before bruce, he was natural aswell...so before one quates bruce at how special he was, it may be true that he was special...it may be true that he was special in related areas to bodybuilding such as determination...but perhaps it would be better to relate those ideas to real bodybuilders like arnold...his thoughts about training and his effort and determination was outstanding, and it was geared towards bodybuilding...steve reeves came before bruce...look at his determination...as for the quotes of strength, it is also obvious that pro bodybuilders would do things to out perform bruce aswell...this is simply because BRUCE WAS NOT A BODYBUILDER. Therefore he does not represent bodybuilding, as his goals were not geared towards it...maybe it would be interesting to see who he was influenced by aswell...but as far as bodybuilding as a sport is concerned it is about physical looks...not mental state of welbeing...in either way arnold's thoughts were geared towards bodybuilding far more than bruces...(he used gear aswell so it has more relevence to this board aswell, lol ...that was a bit cheesy)...respect to bruce...but play it with your own...arnold's mentality towards life suits bodybuilding to a tee...and i doubt they were influenced by each other...make a note that never once was bruce disrespected, infact he was praised on many occasion but not towards bodybuilding...put him with arnold on stage at a bb contest see what would have happened, you simply cant compare...

Lastly...did you say that you couldnt get as low bodyfat as bruce without drugs? if that is true how did he get to that state? He was a human being, if he could, then others can...simple...reeves physique was thought to be natural aswell...so you see it is possible. Besides...on stage at the o...pro bodybuilders at 3% b/f probably have lower bodyfat than him...this is because they have MUCH more lean body mass...therefore their % decreases. Bye.
 
Fukkenshredded said:
I can't let this one go.

Olympia4ever...

Where do we start here. Your assertion that this thread be moved might hold water only because Bruce's training had very little to do with drugs. However, Bruce's training is something that you might want to check into just a little bit before you come down on anyone for claiming him to outclass bodybuilders.

The fact of the matter is that Bruce was everything bodybuilding SHOULD be. He was a marriage of physicality, developed to perfection for its purpose, and sprituality, also developed to its purpose. He was constantly evolving into a better version of himself. In every area. He had mastered himself, physically and mentally.

Take another look at his physique at its finest, which was not until his latest years. At one point his bodyfat was almost neglegible. However, his strength did not suffer. You want to fool yourself that you could starve into that condition without drugs, go ahead. He was WAY ahead of his time. You asked if I have ever seen the master bodybuilders train? Hell, all we have nowadays is videos of 'haardcore training from the masters'...and while I can certainly respect some of the achievements, it is impossible to ignore the emphasis always being on drugs. I wonder why that is? Do you really believe that Dorian Yates trained with the intensity that Bruce did? I can tell you for a fact that they were in two different mental arenas, and intensity is always a MENTAL aspect.

Bruce LIVED A PHILOSOPHY. He inspired people like Dorian because his philosophy was overwhelming in its power, in its result. Bodybuilders who met him were not so overwhelmed by his physique as by his POWER, both mental and physical.

Name one bodybuilder who can do a front lateral hold with his bodyweight. Bruce could hold his own weight out in front of him, arms locked. If you think that is because he was skinny, think again. Not many can do that. Or a one handed pull up. You know anyone who can do one? At my strongest ever, I did ONE, badly, and I can do more than 50 two handed pulls.

Bruce was the amalgamation of what most bodybuilders claim to be. He was revered by the best bodybuilders in the world for a reason, and to suggest that this forum is not connected to those reasons is shortsighted.

Now then. Whoever said above that Bruce was no better than Steven Segal...jeez...what an occluded individual. So let me enlighten...

Bruce, let us not forget, married two cultures, and did it publicly. He arrived at a time when racism was rampant, and when many people's feeling toward Asians as a whole was very negative. Moreover, he came to INSTRUCT and to SHARE, as well as to GROW and DEVELOP himself. He was relentlessly helpful to those who asked, and very very patient with those who followed. He gave of himself, both to the industry that mistreated him and to the people who eventually disrespected him. You say he won no major tournaments. Hmmm. You think he was in a great many? While your listing the tournaments that he lost, why don't you list the people who defeated him? Find his naysayer among skilled fighters, bro. Where is his defeator? Where is his superior? Steven Segal is a charlatan who is able to make movies BECAUSE OF WHAT BRUCE HIMSELF PIONEERED. Segal is a liar and when he was called out by those who are in the know he ran like the fucking coward that he is. Gene Lebelle (sp) had no trouble choking Segal out in a scuffle, and Gene is an old man. Bruce brought a culture with him, and it remained and grew because of his efforts. You should study him, bro...or if nothing else, learn a little about someone before you trashtalk them. Ignorance can be corrected, but attitude is another story. Start by correcting your ignorance.
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Infact, whilst on this topic of using steroids to get you past your potential... i am a firm believer that one should get close to his her potential before using gear...that means getting close to reeves, as good or better than him before one uses them...not to anyone in general...but looking at some peoples pics it is quite obvious that even with steroids they havent got to their gentic potential...its like they just want to take shortcuts...anyway, everyone has their own right to do what they want if it doesnt harm others...so if they want to, if it makes them happy, then cool.
 
Well there is a mutual disagreement...my thoughts are that bodybuilders are bodybuilders and that martial artists are martial artists.
 
Couple things Lee did...
Busted open a 100lb punching bag with one kick (it also flew 10 feet in the air).

Stabbed an unopened soda can with his finger(cans were thicker back then to)

Could hit so hard he once dislocated someones jaw with one punch.

Invented the one inch punch. This is a punch where you place your fist so it is touching someones chest, then strike hard from there. He could make people fall back 5 feet with this.
 
FUKKEN....

damn bro, i think i need to read into Bruce Lee's philosophy...sounds very practical to me.

olympia4ever said:
Well there is a mutual disagreement...my thoughts are that bodybuilders are bodybuilders and that martial artists are martial artists.
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O4E...wow bro! crack a book every once in a while...k?

PA
 
olympia4ever said:
...get close to his her potential before using gear...that means getting close to reeves, as good or better than him before one uses them...not to anyone in general...
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LMAO! does your cereberum ache?
 
djregs said:
morons, thats what you are. bruce lees was amazing and even the real bodybuilders respected him. even guys bigger than you numbnuts.

http://www.mikementzer.com/blee.html

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FROM THE ARTICLE: "He had the most incredible set of lats I'd ever seen," recalled Kimura, "and his big joke was to pretend that his thumb was an air hose, which he'd then put in his mouth and pretend to inflate his lats with. He looked like a damn cobra when he did that!"

I said it before and will say it again. His lat spread was out of this world. The best I have seen.
 
olympia4ever said:
lets hope this post is a joke...for 3 reasons...

1. You do not need to take any form of anabolic or androgenic steroids to get a body like bruce lee's...he did it naturally and his genetics were probably not like arnold's or sergios at all.

2. Secondly...why are you on this board? anabolic steroids (incidently this board is called anabolic discussion board) are useful for bodybuilders (other athletes aswell) that want to go further than their genetic potential...if you are impressed by bruce lee's physique, you are no bodybuilder. (Bruce achieved some great things, his films, his basis, his combat, so the utmost respect for him)...But he is no bodybuilder is he?...this post should perhaps be in the diet board, because you dont need steroids to get a physique like his, perhaps it should be moved.

3. Lastly, how can you sum up everyone on this board without having a clue about how hard people train (you said that bruce's training would put us all to shame)...how can you say this? have you seen everyone on here train? there might be some pro bodybuilders on this board, would you say that bruces training would put theirs to shame? how could you say that...you cant say that his training would put everyones to shame, cos most of us are bodybuilders and are not trying to train to be a great martial artist.

Wasn't trying to flame you or anything, but just picked up on a few points...its your decision what you want to look like, but if you want to look like Bruce, then there probably isnt much need for any steroids of any sort because you couldget to that shape naturally, look at natural bodybuilders...some are more cut and more muscular. Anyway...in no way is this supposed to disrespect Bruce. He is someone that people can look up to for all encouragement and as a mentor of the mind...but as a bodybuilder wouldnt really look up to his physique, then again some women like guys with phyqiues like that...but not all of us do this for sexual enhancement...some do it to feel the pump and get that rush...win some titles. Fairplay dude...just giving you an insight...tried not to flame...train hard.
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wow...leave this place now.
 
winstrol69 said:
Couple things Lee did...
Busted open a 100lb punching bag with one kick (it also flew 10 feet in the air).

Stabbed an unopened soda can with his finger(cans were thicker back then to)

Could hit so hard he once dislocated someones jaw with one punch.

Invented the one inch punch. This is a punch where you place your fist so it is touching someones chest, then strike hard from there. He could make people fall back 5 feet with this.
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Dislocating a jaw with one punch is really no big deal if you know how to hit, but yes, he could do some insane shit.

My favorite story is one where he was on a plane with a very large pro football player (can't remember the guys name). Anyway, they got to talking and the footballer couldn't believe some of Bruces claims about generating functional power.

When the plane landed, Bruce invited the guy for a demo. They went to a hotel pool and Bruce had the football player hold a blocking bag, one of those big old style football blocking bags, in front of himself tight to his body - standing by the edge of the pool. The game was, Bruce was going to kick the bag from a standing position, I believe there may have been some wger as to whether he'd fall in or not.

Long story short, not only did the guy go into the drink, he literaly flew UP into the air and landed out a good distance into the pool!
 
olympia4ever said:
lets hope this post is a joke...for 3 reasons...

1. You do not need to take any form of anabolic or androgenic steroids to get a body like bruce lee's...he did it naturally and his genetics were probably not like arnold's or sergios at all.

2. Secondly...why are you on this board? anabolic steroids (incidently this board is called anabolic discussion board) are useful for bodybuilders (other athletes aswell) that want to go further than their genetic potential...if you are impressed by bruce lee's physique, you are no bodybuilder. (Bruce achieved some great things, his films, his basis, his combat, so the utmost respect for him)...But he is no bodybuilder is he?...this post should perhaps be in the diet board, because you dont need steroids to get a physique like his, perhaps it should be moved.

3. Lastly, how can you sum up everyone on this board without having a clue about how hard people train (you said that bruce's training would put us all to shame)...how can you say this? have you seen everyone on here train? there might be some pro bodybuilders on this board, would you say that bruces training would put theirs to shame? how could you say that...you cant say that his training would put everyones to shame, cos most of us are bodybuilders and are not trying to train to be a great martial artist.

Wasn't trying to flame you or anything, but just picked up on a few points...its your decision what you want to look like, but if you want to look like Bruce, then there probably isnt much need for any steroids of any sort because you couldget to that shape naturally, look at natural bodybuilders...some are more cut and more muscular. Anyway...in no way is this supposed to disrespect Bruce. He is someone that people can look up to for all encouragement and as a mentor of the mind...but as a bodybuilder wouldnt really look up to his physique, then again some women like guys with phyqiues like that...but not all of us do this for sexual enhancement...some do it to feel the pump and get that rush...win some titles. Fairplay dude...just giving you an insight...tried not to flame...train hard.
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You're a moron, dude. Has anyone told you that today?
 
Why do you feel the need to insult me by calling me a moron? Theres no point in insulting someone because you dont agree with some of their posts. I couldnt give a toss about fighting, or hurting people, or self defence, the reason for me bodybuilding is not to be able to fight, or to hurt people, just to look real good and win titles...then perhaps go on to other things...there is no need for me to fight. Maybe your goals are different, thats up to you and no one is stopping you...you might like bruces physique but i dont...its personal taste...i like arnolds physique of 1974...or jay cutler...they are bodybuilders...they win/won titles... thats my taste. Infact, if anyone on this board thinks that one needs drugs to look like bruce then they are very worng, they obviously dont train hard enough...4 years of natural training should do it (thats without creatine or any stuff like that)...you just have to look at natural bodybuilders or even steve reeves to see that you dont need drugs to look good. In my opinion it is a lack of determination that leads people to use drugs after 0-1 years of natural training, and it seems clear that by remarks people say about bruces physique that you would need drugs to look like that is seems like a lack of knowledge and/or determination... But you would almost definately need drugs to look like cutler, and about 8-12 years of real training. No point in insulting people seeing as we are just giving our own opinions...it shows immaturity.
 
olympia4ever said:
Why do you feel the need to insult me by calling me a moron? Theres no point in insulting someone because you dont agree with some of their posts. I couldnt give a toss about fighting, or hurting people, or self defence, the reason for me bodybuilding is not to be able to fight, or to hurt people, just to look real good and win titles...then perhaps go on to other things...there is no need for me to fight. Maybe your goals are different, thats up to you and no one is stopping you...you might like bruces physique but i dont...its personal taste...i like arnolds physique of 1974...or jay cutler...they are bodybuilders...they win/won titles... thats my taste. Infact, if anyone on this board thinks that one needs drugs to look like bruce then they are very worng, they obviously dont train hard enough...4 years of natural training should do it (thats without creatine or any stuff like that)...you just have to look at natural bodybuilders or even steve reeves to see that you dont need drugs to look good. In my opinion it is a lack of determination that leads people to use drugs after 0-1 years of natural training, and it seems clear that by remarks people say about bruces physique that you would need drugs to look like that is seems like a lack of knowledge and/or determination... But you would almost definately need drugs to look like cutler, and about 8-12 years of real training. No point in insulting people seeing as we are just giving our own opinions...it shows immaturity.
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I am gonna guess that T.C. Louma is your personal trainer?
 
Dont use personal trainers because in my opinion they are a waste of time...see at the u21 british title then look at my physique...Compare it with yours then shut your mouth, simple. Why would one need a personal trainer as bodybuilding is a personal thing...ONLY you can find out what works for yourself...cant trust anyone else to do it for you, advice from from pros and other experienced bb's can be helpful, but bodybuilding is a personal thing.
 
olympia4ever said:
Why do you feel the need to insult me by calling me a moron? Theres no point in insulting someone because you dont agree with some of their posts.
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I agree, no need for insults here. I don't agree with much of what you have had to say on this subject, but you have had some good points.

I do think you'd be doing yourself a good service to dig into the books and see what Bruce Lee was all about, how he trained, how he lived, and his philosophy.
 
Olympia4ever--

I think we actually agree on a few things here. I can definitely make a comparison between Arnold and Bruce...the two essentially represent the same ideology, at least in terms of practical application. Certainly they refer to their respective life philosophies by different names, but in the end they relied on their sprirtual development and personal cognitive abilities, and both serve, to the best of their abilities, the public good. Arnold is a bit mislabeling himself when he calls himself a Republican. Bruce was as close to an Objectivist as any public figure ever was. Ayn Rand's philosophy is difficult to refute in practical terms, and once one distills out the subtext of feminine sexual role playing, one is left with a very solid framework on which to build.

I never suggested that I could not get to Bruce's bf or pysical condition without drugs. In fact, it is possible that I have been, from a medical standpoint, in similar shape. I actually agree that there are bodybuilders who have manipulated their bf% lower, etc. But that is not what i was referring to. I was making the point that Bruce's physique was a result of FUNCTION, and that he fully utilized his body. His bf% HELPED him to physically perform, see.

I mean, you never saw Bruce backstage with a saline drip and a doctor because he had temporarily defied medicine with stronger medicine.

Bodybuilders on stage are, for the most part, a temporary phenomenon, lasting one day tops, maybe two, before rehydrating and returning to their FUNCTIONAL selves, which is generally fifteen pounds heavier at least.

This is in direct conflict with Bruce's conditioning. He was not a caracature of himself.

So while most (certainly not all) bodybuilders are training to generate an illusion for one night, bruce was constantly bettering himself in terms of functionality.

this is not to diminish the achievement difficulty level of bodybuilding, but it does imply that there exists an important difference between a philosophy that emphasizes ACHIEVEMENT FOR SELF AND OTHERS and a philosophy that emphasizes APPEARANCE AT ALL COSTS.

This is what seperates the two, see?

Anyway, I am not attempting to correct you or to persuade you of my viewpoint here, but rather, to familiarize yourself with the underlying philosophies of an enlightened man (Bruce) so that you can accurately judge for yourself which path to follow.

I dare say that anyone who applies themselves to that endeavor, would, in bodybuilding, emerge a victor and a champion.

I mean, look at the ones who did...Arnold, Dorian, Rachel...

See what I mean?
 
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