Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below THIS IS SO SIMPLE. always be honest. even if you think you are crossing the line of blunt/rude, most the time youre not. all they really want is you to level with them. most the time they will be fine with the idea of only being able to sleep with you and not take things too seriously. the first thing they will do is try and agree so they can make themselves seem just as mature and "undesperate". in the back of their heads they will ALWAYS think that in time they will get you, and thats up to you. if they thats not what you want......YOU TOLD THEM ALL ALONG.
I think I've finally understood why I'm afraid to hit on women I dont know that well
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evansteve
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hithard said:
heh, thanks. overall i liked your advice.
the thing that you do have to keep in mind however is that at my college women arent into sleeping with other men. Remember I go to a Christian college, where sex is sacred, and one of the things you agree to in the college contract is not to have sex outside of marriage. Maybe making out or something, but not sleeping. So I guess I'll just have to do that with these women if they are willing.
But some women arent willing to just slut around and make out with any man.
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BrothaBill
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Here Evansteve, this may help you just in case when I posted it before, watch the Tao of Steve on how to become a Steve instead of a Stu.
You must be ZEN with this situation. You seem to really want to make things happen, but you see the more you want, ZEN tells that you move at the opposite rate making it less likely to have it happen.
Remember Chevy Chase in Caddyshack. "Some people say that quickest way between two points is a straight line.........in opposite directions...nanananananaa" *makes amazing putt*
Read the Tao Te Ching by Lao Tse for more understanding;
Okay some tips that should help:
You can't just go up to a woman and say, 'Hi! I'm Dave! I like smoking pot, reading the sports page on the john...wanna have sex with me?'
Both men and women want to have sex. It's natural, except we're on different timetables. Women want to have sex, like, y'know, fifteen minutes after us, so alright, if you hold out for twenty she'll be chasing you for five.
Q. Do you want to have sex with this woman? A. YES
Okay, then you're violating the first rule.
1) You must learn to eliminate your desire. [/B]
Just a short seminar on the elimination of desire, okay? If you're out with a girl and even THINKING about getting laid, you're finished, cuz women can smell that agenda like shit on a shoe.
I shouldn't be getting laid, but I do. And do you know why,? Because when I'm hanging out with a woman, that's all I'm doing is hanging out, talking, listening. I'm not sitting there thinking about how to get in bed with her. And this completely confuses them because they're saying "Wait a minute. I'm so much better than this guy. Isn't he attracted to me?" The basic principle: We pursue that which retreats from us.
Groucho Marks said the same thing. "Act like a woman can't join your club, and she'll do almost anything to get in."
Be aware of
The Male Insanity Syndrome. Ya know, that is just you're with a woman and no matter how cool she is, you're always thinking "Maybe I could do a little better or I could trade up somehow.
Okay, I'm serious. If you're hanging out with women as friends, your doing your research in the wrong library.
Q.What's wrong with being friends with women?
A. Nothing, but getting out of that category of 'friend' is harder than like getting out of Alcatraz.
2) And this takes us to the second rule: You have to do something excellent in her presence, thus demonstrating your sexual worthiness.
That should be simple enough, demostrate that you have excellence about you, be creative and set it up to happen naturally.
Don Giovanni slept with thousands of women because he was afraid he wouldn't be loved by one.
Okay dude, there's a certain order you're supposed to do things in, and telling someone you love them is definitely last in that order.
Q. when are you supposed to tell 'em?
A. Maybe the 40th wedding anniversary or something?
3.: And that takes us to Part III., okay? Alright, after you've eliminated your desire, and after you've been excellent in her presence, then you must retreat. Okay?
I'm gonna tell you this one last time and maybe you should tattoo it on your dick so you don't forget, okay? "We pursue that which retreats from us."
"Be desireless. Be excellent. Be gone."
The Tao isn't about picking up lots of women. It's about being the best person you can be, and I'm not.
And by being GONE, that applies to the text messaging like RG says, its too easy to contact you that way. Best to let them become frustrated at your aloofness and the inability to contact you, that will only make them want to contact you more. Starting to see the picture? Women want what they cant have easily.
You must be ZEN with this situation. You seem to really want to make things happen, but you see the more you want, ZEN tells that you move at the opposite rate making it less likely to have it happen.
Remember Chevy Chase in Caddyshack. "Some people say that quickest way between two points is a straight line.........in opposite directions...nanananananaa" *makes amazing putt*
Read the Tao Te Ching by Lao Tse for more understanding;
Okay some tips that should help:
You can't just go up to a woman and say, 'Hi! I'm Dave! I like smoking pot, reading the sports page on the john...wanna have sex with me?'
Both men and women want to have sex. It's natural, except we're on different timetables. Women want to have sex, like, y'know, fifteen minutes after us, so alright, if you hold out for twenty she'll be chasing you for five.
Q. Do you want to have sex with this woman? A. YES
Okay, then you're violating the first rule.
1) You must learn to eliminate your desire. [/B]
Just a short seminar on the elimination of desire, okay? If you're out with a girl and even THINKING about getting laid, you're finished, cuz women can smell that agenda like shit on a shoe.
I shouldn't be getting laid, but I do. And do you know why,? Because when I'm hanging out with a woman, that's all I'm doing is hanging out, talking, listening. I'm not sitting there thinking about how to get in bed with her. And this completely confuses them because they're saying "Wait a minute. I'm so much better than this guy. Isn't he attracted to me?" The basic principle: We pursue that which retreats from us.
Groucho Marks said the same thing. "Act like a woman can't join your club, and she'll do almost anything to get in."
Be aware of
The Male Insanity Syndrome. Ya know, that is just you're with a woman and no matter how cool she is, you're always thinking "Maybe I could do a little better or I could trade up somehow.
Okay, I'm serious. If you're hanging out with women as friends, your doing your research in the wrong library.
Q.What's wrong with being friends with women?
A. Nothing, but getting out of that category of 'friend' is harder than like getting out of Alcatraz.
2) And this takes us to the second rule: You have to do something excellent in her presence, thus demonstrating your sexual worthiness.
That should be simple enough, demostrate that you have excellence about you, be creative and set it up to happen naturally.
Don Giovanni slept with thousands of women because he was afraid he wouldn't be loved by one.
Okay dude, there's a certain order you're supposed to do things in, and telling someone you love them is definitely last in that order.
Q. when are you supposed to tell 'em?
A. Maybe the 40th wedding anniversary or something?
3.: And that takes us to Part III., okay? Alright, after you've eliminated your desire, and after you've been excellent in her presence, then you must retreat. Okay?
I'm gonna tell you this one last time and maybe you should tattoo it on your dick so you don't forget, okay? "We pursue that which retreats from us."
"Be desireless. Be excellent. Be gone."
The Tao isn't about picking up lots of women. It's about being the best person you can be, and I'm not.
And by being GONE, that applies to the text messaging like RG says, its too easy to contact you that way. Best to let them become frustrated at your aloofness and the inability to contact you, that will only make them want to contact you more. Starting to see the picture? Women want what they cant have easily.
thebestone
New member
you have to flirt with a chick..if you talk about puppy dogs and ice cream of course its gonna end up on the friendship tip.. thats not what you want.. you want the panties flyin!
Dirk Howat
New member
evansteve said:
That is my deal as well. I do not want to get married and it seems like this is what most girls are interested with me (though, they may not say this).
Plus, it is humiliating to be turned down from someone who (IMO) is a lesser person then you are.
I play it naturally and try to seduce girls who I am interested in and then wait for them to make signals and let it flow naturally.
When you hit on girls, its uncomfortable, not enjoyable usually and puts you in a position to be turned down. You should never put yourself in a position to be turned down.
evansteve said:
Why do you insist on constantly questioning the advice given to you? Sometimes when you dont understand a concept you have to put your faith in those that came before you and trust unto their sage advice. In other words take a fucking leap of faith with what we tell you.
Dirk Howat
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NJjuice22 said:
I can't get chicks. How would you know.
Its the ugly ass loser bastard who has to hit on chicks, manipulate them.
Shit ass scum like you have to manipulate chicks to get laid.
Men like me only have to exist to get laid.
Women come to men.
You fuck.
Come on
You want to fuck wit me?
I fuck you.
Piece of shet.
