I say screw time off in between cycles

[HansNZ]

From what I have read it is the highly androgenic steroids that you need time off from if you wish to make future gains from them.

I am planning on taking time off, but not as much as many people here recommend. I plan to follow my last androgenic drug (probably something short acting like trenbolone) with two weeks of oxandrolone, primo tabs and orabolin. These are low in androgens I believe, and should help me consolidate my gains from the stronger drugs. Following two weeks of these light drugs I plan on doing two weeks of clen and clomid. This is a total of four weeks off the androgens and two weeks of all steroids. I will then begin my next cycle.

I feel my questions are relevant to this post generally. If any of this is horrendously wrong someone please tell me. I have seen a spectrum of advice saying I need to take 12 weeks off through to advice saying I needn't stop taking steroids at all so long as I completely change the compunds regularly.

 

[G-Force]

I'm sorry guys but some of the drug regimes you're discussing here scare the hell outta me. Of late there have been a lot of threads regarding this issue with two of the most recent being Low Dosages Rule and Disturbing Trends Amongst A.S. Users with most of the replies agreeing that it was a good idea to keep dosages and times on to a minimum! Is nobody else here of the opinion that A.S. is the last part of the puzzle the most important parts of which are training nutrition/diet and rest! I see A.S. as a training aid to take my physique to the next level and as I would only do two eight week cycles a year I can use the time off to get my body back to normal and consolidate my gains!
A lot of members seem to be admitting that they are addicted to A.S. because I see no other way to describe not being able to handle being off because of depression or bringing forward cycles which were actually planned for the following year! In some of the threads I mentioned someone noted that he had seen a mod recommend a gram of test as part of a first cycle for a newbie, this is the trend that the thread starter was referring to. I like almost everybody else here love training, but training while on cycle is a different experience altogether and I admit it is a very addictive one at that, but unless you are competitive you should not need to stay on for as long as you think you can get away with! Unless I am misinterpreting the replies it seems that some are unwilling to train without steroids!!!
The most important aspect of acquiring and maintaining an attractive physique is to remain healthy and retain a strong immune system and I am aware that most members get regular liver values and blood work done but I can't help thinking that the length of cycles and the amount of gear involved goes beyond moderation and that there is no such thing as a free lunch! Although the body is remarkable at repairing itself it can only be stressed so far!

 

[serge]

i think it is good to take time off, but if you are planing making money off of you body then the ends justify the means. now if you are training to just look good and are not willing to take time off then its completely different story. in other words if your drug use is justified then by all means stay on year round, but if its just a hobby then spending all the $$$ and risking your health is kinda stupid and counterproductive.

 

[genarr3]

originally posted by G-Force
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I'm sorry guys but some of the drug regimes you're discussing here scare the hell outta me. Of late there have been a lot of threads regarding this issue with two of the most recent being Low Dosages Rule and Disturbing Trends Amongst A.S. Users with most of the replies agreeing that it was a good idea to keep dosages and times on to a minimum! Is nobody else here of the opinion that A.S. is the last part of the puzzle the most important parts of which are training nutrition/diet and rest! I see A.S. as a training aid to take my physique to the next level and as I would only do two eight week cycles a year I can use the time off to get my body back to normal and consolidate my gains!
A lot of members seem to be admitting that they are addicted to A.S. because I see no other way to describe not being able to handle being off because of depression or bringing forward cycles which were actually planned for the following year! In some of the threads I mentioned someone noted that he had seen a mod recommend a gram of test as part of a first cycle for a newbie, this is the trend that the thread starter was referring to. I like almost everybody else here love training, but training while on cycle is a different experience altogether and I admit it is a very addictive one at that, but unless you are competitive you should not need to stay on for as long as you think you can get away with! Unless I am misinterpreting the replies it seems that some are unwilling to train without steroids!!!
The most important aspect of acquiring and maintaining an attractive physique is to remain healthy and retain a strong immune system and I am aware that most members get regular liver values and blood work done but I can't help thinking that the length of cycles and the amount of gear involved goes beyond moderation and that there is no such thing as a free lunch! Although the body is remarkable at repairing itself it can only be stressed so far!
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I totally agree. You have to give your body a break. As for the post recomending a newbie use a gram of test as a frontload, reading that made me sick. AS is just a piece of the puzzle, it's not the whole ball of wax.
Genarr3