I need some good advice

[TyMikal]

ok so i know how many of you may feel about noobies and I understand. I'm pretty intelligent in certain areas and I get irritated sometimes when someone doesn't know at all what they're talking about. But while I am new to all of this i'm not completely uneducated. I've done my fair share of research and I do know (for the most part) what I'm doing to myself and so on. Many of you seem to know what you are talking about so I thought I'd ask your advice.

I have a really skinny frame. I'm 21 years old and I weight 155 lbs. It's bad. I haven't really gained any weight (other than some slight flab on my stomach) since the beginning of highschool. I really do workout and nothing really happens, other than feeling really sore the next 2 days. Some slight muscle gain maybe, but nothing anyone would notice. I've finally just got sick of it. My friend is a personal trainer now and he suggested that I try an oral steroid for a month or a month and a half to see how that worked out and if it helped. I would give anything to be a big muscle man, but I was definatly NOT blessed with that type of body. I'd like to just look a little bigger, to be a normal size so I fit into my shirts better. What would you recommend? And do you think in that span of time I would even be able to see any significant change in size if I worked out regularly? I've heard T-Bol was good, but difficult to find. As far as side effects go... sudafed (the nasal deconjestant) and too much caffine cause my heart to race. I dont have a heart condition or anything, but have any of you heard of any effederine-like side effects like creatine has on some people's nervous system and heart? Also what is the likelihood in a month or two that gynecomastia or testicular shrinkage will occur? I'd also like to be able to get my pecker up when having sex. That'd suck alot.

Any help will be greatly appreciated and noted. I realize that it can be frusterating dealing with someone who's all confused. But like I said...it'd be appreciated. I'm just trying to get educated. I've gotta do something. I can't stay this size for ever. It's taking a toll on my self esteem. I've even tried eating alot more, but the only place the fat shows up is in my stomach and hips. Any ideas guys?

 

[eddymerckx]

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[digitizedsoul]

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Nice my friend. That was very kind (and prompt) of you

 

[DJLegacy2k1]

I think the first thing to look at is your diet and training...What does your daily diet and weekly training look like?

-Legacy

 

[mus1cjunk1e]

Having been in the same situation as you I understand where you are coming from. I was 21 and exactly 155lbs (I wasn't kidding when I said I have been in the same situation). I went the aas route and absolutely regret it. There is no such thing as someone that can't grow at all. You may need more calories, different training, something; but no one NEEDS aas to grow, it just helps. Post up what you are eating, how you train, etc. The more detailed you are the more we can help you.

If you want any advice on what worked for someone with the same body type as you feel free to PM me anytime.

 

[Varga]

Most times is food/rest/training that's the issue BUT sometimes it's not!
Do yourself a favor and go to a doctor, in this case a general doctor is good and ask for a testosterone test. It's kind of expensive but with insurance is no problem. Come up with a reason to have it tested, like no sex drive and then come back here and tell us what happened.
BTW, how is your sex drive? Are you gaining fat easily? Are you tired and sleep 9 hours+ a day?
It might not be anything but if you have a hard time making any gains it's worth looking into it

 

[bw1]

ok so i know how many of you may feel about noobies and I understand. I'm pretty intelligent in certain areas and I get irritated sometimes when someone doesn't know at all what they're talking about. But while I am new to all of this i'm not completely uneducated. I've done my fair share of research and I do know (for the most part) what I'm doing to myself and so on. Many of you seem to know what you are talking about so I thought I'd ask your advice.

I have a really skinny frame. I'm 21 years old and I weight 155 lbs. It's bad. I haven't really gained any weight (other than some slight flab on my stomach) since the beginning of highschool. I really do workout and nothing really happens, other than feeling really sore the next 2 days. Some slight muscle gain maybe, but nothing anyone would notice. I've finally just got sick of it. My friend is a personal trainer now and he suggested that I try an oral steroid for a month or a month and a half to see how that worked out and if it helped. I would give anything to be a big muscle man, but I was definatly NOT blessed with that type of body. I'd like to just look a little bigger, to be a normal size so I fit into my shirts better. What would you recommend? And do you think in that span of time I would even be able to see any significant change in size if I worked out regularly? I've heard T-Bol was good, but difficult to find. As far as side effects go... sudafed (the nasal deconjestant) and too much caffine cause my heart to race. I dont have a heart condition or anything, but have any of you heard of any effederine-like side effects like creatine has on some people's nervous system and heart? Also what is the likelihood in a month or two that gynecomastia or testicular shrinkage will occur? I'd also like to be able to get my pecker up when having sex. That'd suck alot.

Any help will be greatly appreciated and noted. I realize that it can be frusterating dealing with someone who's all confused. But like I said...it'd be appreciated. I'm just trying to get educated. I've gotta do something. I can't stay this size for ever. It's taking a toll on my self esteem. I've even tried eating alot more, but the only place the fat shows up is in my stomach and hips. Any ideas guys?

Post what you typically eat in a day and what your training looks like. I bet you'll find a lot of answers there

 

[TyMikal]

Post what you typically eat in a day and what your training looks like. I bet you'll find a lot of answers there

Well...lol this is where I'm likely going to sound bad. I'm in college so I don't have alot of options on food. I don't even have a stove or oven, so cooking is not really possible. If I get up in time for breakfast I eat some eggs, some sausage, and maybe a biscuit or a pancake. If not I eat a cereal bar on the way to class. I eat a chicken ceasar wrap or a burger or a chicken sandwhich usually for lunch. Then for dinner I'll have either some type of chicken pasta, or pizza or maybe a sandwhich. Honestly I don't really pay much attention to what I eat. (obviously) Not that I don't care or think it's not important. I just don't have tons of options and time. I eat whatever is in the student union or cafateria. I'm not fat though by any means. I'm really just way too skinny. I have fat on my stomach area, but If I did cardio it would go away, but so would the rest of the small amount of weight on my body. Sleep is usually an issue. I go to bed pretty late and wake up pretty early on the weekdays. As far as training goes. I can barely bech 75 lbs (which i know is pathetic) but i used to be able to bench like 125, but then i stoppd for a long time and now i can't. So anyway, i usually stick to free weights doing curls and lateral raises. Then i do weight machines focusing on back, shoulders, chest, bicepts and tricepts. My goal is that when i can do the machines comfortably and not struggle with those then i'll move up and start doing weights again. i don't really want to embarass myself in front of a bunch of people. As far as the testosterone test...that may be a good idea. I have a really strong sex drive though, I also have really thick facial hair (doesn't that mean you have a lot of testosterone?) But I do sleep for up to 12 hours at a time without waking up if i don't have to get up for some reason. I know that my eating habits and workout routine aren't very good. But I also know guys that eat just like me who look alot better than me. Genetics i suppose. Maybe I should just try to work out harder... oh. and thanks for the membership preview. That was really cool of you.

 

[levi8599]

there is your problem right there. your DIET. you are maybe eating 1500 cals a day. and that is in carbs and fat mostly. you have to eat to grow or else your body has nothing to repair itself and create hypertrophy in the muscle tissue.

 

[halfcenturian]

My young friend... Bodybuilding is MOSTLY about diet and eatting properly If you can't commit to that... please don't even consider AAS.

That's not to say you need fancy food - but clean food. Un-processed food:

Tuna (in the can), eggs, chicken, steak, brown rice, fresh brocholi, apples, protein shakes, bananas, lots of water.
Do you think you can gain access to that grocery list, or a friends kitchen?

 

[Faizakafez]

Well...lol this is where I'm likely going to sound bad. I'm in college so I don't have alot of options on food. I don't even have a stove or oven, so cooking is not really possible. If I get up in time for breakfast I eat some eggs, some sausage, and maybe a biscuit or a pancake. If not I eat a cereal bar on the way to class. I eat a chicken ceasar wrap or a burger or a chicken sandwhich usually for lunch. Then for dinner I'll have either some type of chicken pasta, or pizza or maybe a sandwhich. Honestly I don't really pay much attention to what I eat.

Sorry bro, i have to pull the lazyness card on you. I'm in univeristy and alot of ppl on here are in school or work bizarre hours, i know your on a limited budget buy a cheap microwave from walmart and george forman grill this all you will need. Buy a 1kg of oats some protein powder there now your have breakfast done.. By some microwavble brown rice and some tunna or chicken ( microwave the rice grill the chicken) u now have lunch dinner and another meal.

(obviously) Not that I don't care or think it's not important. I just don't have tons of options and time. I eat whatever is in the student union or cafateria. I'm not fat though by any means. I'm really just way too skinny. I have fat on my stomach area, but If I did cardio it would go away, but so would the rest of the small amount of weight on my body. Sleep is usually an issue. I go to bed pretty late and wake up pretty early on the weekdays. As far as training goes. I can barely bech 75 lbs (which i know is pathetic) but i used to be able to bench like 125, but then i stoppd for a long time and now i can't. So anyway, i usually stick to free weights doing curls and lateral raises. Then i do weight machines focusing on back, shoulders, chest, bicepts and tricepts. My goal is that when i can do the machines comfortably and not struggle with those then i'll move up and start doing weights again. i don't really want to embarass myself in front of a bunch of people

Few things, machines are good but you would put any real size on with them, dont worry about "The cool guys" in the gym. everyone starts somewhere if that your main concern looking silly infront of the jacked guys, there maybe bigger issues to deal with. Everyone starts of as a newbie. Any ways your training stick to free weights for your main lifts. You also want to train legs. Legs are important they are not fun to train but they help your overall body grow.

First step is eating about 4-6 times a day.. you can use PB/Shakes/Banna/Oatmeal for a few times a day as your weight gain shakes.

Training stick to free weight dont worry about numbers its all about the form and the burn.

 

[Nelson Montana]

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...tood-questions-ef-don-t-ask-again-589855.html

 

[GUARDIAN]

+1

My young friend... Bodybuilding is MOSTLY about diet and eatting properly If you can't commit to that... please don't even consider AAS.

That's not to say you need fancy food - but clean food. Un-processed food:

Tuna (in the can), eggs, chicken, steak, brown rice, fresh brocholi, apples, protein shakes, bananas, lots of water.
Do you think you can gain access to that grocery list, or a friends kitchen?

 

[dabuffguy]

+1 on the diet.

honestly, your diet is horrible and you will never get any bigger , or stronger for that matter. you need twice that much food, and 3 times as much protein. A cereal bar is bullshit for breakfast. You need to eat high quality foods (not expensive) like chicken, oatmeal, brown rice, beef and tuna.

I'm going to guarantee you something here:

First, go to the store and buy chicken breasts, tuna and cottage cheese (low fat), and a tub of whey protein. Eat 1 chicken breast and one can of tuna in addition to your already diet and cut out the fat a little. Take 1 serving (about 20 grams) of whey with breakfast and post workout. Also one serving of cottage cheese with breakfast, and one before bed. You may also eat a tuna sandwich (your tuna serving right there) on whole wheat bread after your post workout shake with the rest of your next meal (or before, just whenever you workout).


Come back here in 4 weeks and tell me you put on atleast 5 lbs and you are a lot stronger. I gurantee you will. And when you're in the gym, lift hard baby. Don't puss out. Push that last rep (without hurting yourself). Leave your ego at the door and lift what you can lift. Don't try and be bigger than you are. It doesn't matter. Compete against yourself. Get bigger and stronger every time and beat your old self everytime you go to the gym. In your case, it will have to do largely with your diet which I have given you good ideas for adding the extras you need.

Good luck!

 

[yourmomgoestocollege]

i just gifted you a week plat membership to do searches and learn a lot. I just ask that if yoiu think you learned a lot, consider the few pennies it costs to have your own and support the site while you are at it.

enjoy bro

Way to help a new guy out! More of us should do this type of thing. K to you man!

 

[mus1cjunk1e]

These guys pretty much covered it all.

To get more specific on lifts, you want to do all compound movements with free weights.

For chest: bench press, incline bench press <-- either of those can be done with dumbbells as well

For back: barbell rows, dumbell rows, deadlifts

For shoulders: dumbbell shoulder press (being your main exercise), dumbbell lateral raises, dumbbell front raises

For legs: squats, squats and more squats (as well as the deads)

If you do these exercises you wont even need to do separate bicep or tricep work although on your chest workouts you can burn out tris at the end if you want (same with bi's on your back workouts).

If you couple that with eating about twice as much as you do now in clean food (as was already mentioned in detail above) you will grow. Simple as that. Leave the machines alone for now. And like these guys said, leave the ego at the door. You will get much better results using less weight with perfect form than trying to lift more weight just to look "better". That is how injuries happen, I know from experience. When I learned to stop worrying about how much I was lifting I started getting much better results.

 

[christopher2100]

check it out bro.... when i was 21 i was 6'2 weighing roughly 160 lbs...... played D1 baseball and a trainer got a hold of me and was like yo dude what are you doing to yourself. He put me in the gym 2-3 days a week and put me on a great diet ( exactly what everyone else in here is suggesting to you) with in two years i weighed 200 and solid as a beast. It all comes down to dedication!!!! Work out properly and DIET the correct way. If you can't diet correctly right now gear isn't going to do a damn thing for you. Plus your still to young especially with with your history. Make a deal with yourself and dedicate 6 months to working out and dieting. Set a goal of gaining 10 lbs, at your age and the hormones naturally running through your body you can deff achieve that goal. If you fail at anyone of those three goals then you should jsut walk away............... No pain no Gain.............

 

[Chocolate_Thunder]

i just gifted you a week plat membership to do searches and learn a lot. I just ask that if yoiu think you learned a lot, consider the few pennies it costs to have your own and support the site while you are at it.

enjoy bro

Good job. Decent of you.

 

[TyMikal]

Wow...that's alot of advice. Thanks guys! I know my diet sucks. It really does. I could try harder I'm sure. So if I add tuna, cottage cheese, chicken breast, and eggs to my diet it will help with strength and size? And I can hardly blame anyone for thinking me lazy. I even feel rather lazy. But I don't want to be lazy. The problem is that I'm tired all the time. But I'm sure if I change my diet and sleep patterns and exercise 4 days a week I'll have much more energy. I really appreciate all of your help! Does it matter what brand of whey protein I buy? Or are they essentially all the same? The funny thing is that unlike some people I really like all of those types of food. I love chicken breast, veggies and eggs, I even like tuna and cottage cheese. I just need to break down and start trying to eat it regularly. I do have a George Foreman Grill...I just don't really use it that often. Shame on me.

 

[mus1cjunk1e]

Wow...that's alot of advice. Thanks guys! I know my diet sucks. It really does. I could try harder I'm sure. So if I add tuna, cottage cheese, chicken breast, and eggs to my diet it will help with strength and size? And I can hardly blame anyone for thinking me lazy. I even feel rather lazy. But I don't want to be lazy. The problem is that I'm tired all the time. But I'm sure if I change my diet and sleep patterns and exercise 4 days a week I'll have much more energy. I really appreciate all of your help! Does it matter what brand of whey protein I buy? Or are they essentially all the same? The funny thing is that unlike some people I really like all of those types of food. I love chicken breast, veggies and eggs, I even like tuna and cottage cheese. I just need to break down and start trying to eat it regularly. I do have a George Foreman Grill...I just don't really use it that often. Shame on me.

Then your already set bro. Now just do it.

As far as protein powders go, I love ON products. I use their pro complex and cassien protein powder and have used their whey. All taste decent and are high quality. I'm sure there are a few other good brands out there thats just what I use. Don't buy cheap stuff. There is a quality difference.

 

[Trendsetter21]

I think the first thing to look at is your diet and training...What does your daily diet and weekly training look like?

-Legacy

Agreed, most people think they are eating a lot. But when they write down everything and take a look at what they are eating in a day thats when you actually realize you haven't been eating much at all. I used to think I ate a lot to, until I went to the Arnold classic and was talking to a bunch of rather large guys and the one gave me this advice. He said the problem is your diet, I don't want to hear you say you eat good or eat a lot because the fact is if you eat x (can't remember exactly but I think he said 5,000) amount of calories daily you'll gain weight, eating massive amounts of calories makes you gain weight, its the one thing that is proven to be true. Take a notepad with you wherever you go, a little memo one and when you eat something write it down. Do this for a week and see how little you are actually eating. Then make a schedule containing x amount of calories per day and stick to that eating schedule for a month. If you don't gain at least 5lbs, you ain't following the schedule.

Needless to say, I did it and the first week I realized how many meals I skipped, the length of time in between meals, everything I thought I was doing I really wasn't. Ever since then I have no problem gaining weight, of course I hit plateau's but when I do I just increase my calorie intake. Anabolics can help you gain weight and give you strength but if you don't take in a lot of calories, and even more after you are on them then you won't keep any of that weight, so your basically wasting it.

 

[Slyder190]

My young friend... Bodybuilding is MOSTLY about diet and eatting properly If you can't commit to that... please don't even consider AAS.

Fuckin solid advice. Couple that with smart training and you're set for a great take off.

 

[christopher2100]

solid advice........ i took that advice a few months ago as i became lazy with age and i am exploding right now........ give it a shot all you can do is gain from it..........