I need Help!!!!

[LifterCA]

once again you show your ignorance.

1. you don't know me. Calling a 285 squat very light for someone my size is pretty pathetic. I have't been "bodybuilding" for along time like someone of your stature. I have only been at it for 4 months.

2. Would you consider yourself a very intelligent person on all these subjects? I.e. researched every possible aspect and pulled your own conclusion out?

3. I have gotten perspectives from MANY people on using roids and 1-AD. One I just talked to today said he is going to try 1-AD because he wanted to give it a try.

4. Have you given these PH's a try? Yes science says this and that. But only personal experience can really attest to it.

5. You throw around placebo a lot. Try to take that out of your vocabulary and then you have no argument.

6. You are picking fights on the damn internet. Maybe your head is too big for your shoulders?

 

[LifterCA]

But, I do see your argument on cost. You are correct on the cost of roids. 120 for a month is absolutely cheaper than 180, give or take a few. Plus, I did find more info on roids that I did not know which might lead me into using them. But, I don't know. We will see...

 

[d3track]

yeah i saw your post.
i've heard the argumnet from others before. i know the results from 1-t/1-ad are not comparable to "real gear", but like i said before, not everyone has access.
the "your head may be too big for your shoulders" comment may be right. i have not read a post from you yet that has not been trying to belittle someone.
you obviosly have some good knowledge, i may not always agree with it, but you have the knowledge.
i just wish you would use it to inform others, instead of using it to attack those who do not have the same understanding of the human body.

peace
d3

 

[Lumberg]

I hope everybody nderstands that BBF is pretty much talking out of his ass.

LifterCA, if you have only been lifting for 4 months you definitely shouldn't be fucking with your endocrine system to make gains. You have a lot more natural training in front of you before you should dabble in enhancement. Like a few years.

 

[LifterCA]

I haven't been lifting for 4 months. I have been bodybuilding for 4 months. I have been lifting for 5 years with football and all, but just now I have recently just gotten my ass in gear to want to get bigger.

 

[ZKaudio]

I have recently just gotten my ass in gear to want to get bigger.

lol pun?

 

[LifterCA]

haha no

 

[Deleted member 33117]

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=262048

Lumberg, I explain, in some detail, why prohormones do not work, in this thread.

d3, actually, less than 10% of my post involve belittling someone, and often times it was a poor choice of working in my typing. Also, if you read the above post again, I do not claim 1-test is anything other than read gear. It is a legal anabolic steroid that is overpriced, not a prohormone. The cost to gain ratio on it is too high for it to be effective.

LifterCA, no I feel no need to try prohormones. An understanding of the way in which to human endrocrine system explains why they can't work. I've never seen anybuild an impressive physique ithout the heavy use of anabolic steroids, and especially not by using prohormones. Those two factors being considered, why would I buy something that cost MORE than the drugs I'm currently using when all evidence, both theoretical, and real life obseravation say it is worthless to me? Placebo... a word I use often on the suppliment and training forum. Why would I do such a thing?

Four months of training? It was probably not a placebo then. It is not uncommon for beginners to make huge gains in strength in short periods of time. Actually, if prohormones actually worked as claimed you would not need them at this point in your training. Neither they or steroids would really be of benefit to you. I gained about 40 ibs of lbm in my first 6 months of training. No, I would not consider a 285 ibs sqaut for a natural with several months of training under his belt to be unusual. A bit ahead of the curve, but certainly not uncommon. That statement is not detracting from your accomplishment or work, if anything it adds to it. I'm admitting that you are slightly ahead of what one should expect, so you have worked hard, but the prohormones have had nothing to do with. Your numbers are quite attainable on no-suppliments nor drugs if one simply applies themself, or in the case of the genetic elite, simply works out sometimes.

 

[javaguru]

Read the last few posts on the thread.


http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=262048

 

[Lumberg]

Again, BBF is talking out of his ass. Some people are incorrigible.

And for some people, the law DOES matter because they work sensitive jobs and whatnot.

In any case building the body through using illegal substances is not one of the lengths I am willing to go to....if 1-test etc. become illegal, fine, I will become a natural bodybuilder. No big deal.