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Ok, this is a little off topic, but a very serious questoin. If you are willing to use compounds that alter your endocrine system, why play with something as ineffective as a prohormone, which may or may not be converted by the liver into a usful androgen, and even if it does so, is not likely to elevate free testosterone signifigantly beyond that which you already have? Why not just use the read thing, and start using steroids? The mentality behind the use of pro-hormones totally eludes my comprehension. What is your logic for chosing them over real steroids? They have potential side effects, are less effective and cost more than steroids. Where is the pay off? Actually, anyone who uses pro-hormones regularly, please post an answer.
Actually Prohoromones are safer than steroids as the fact you don't have to take all the extra bs that comes with roids. Plus, I had great gains off my 1-AD, with an added bonus of not having ANY side effects. Like it is stated somewhere else: Side effects happen on different people, they are not the same. Some people have them, some don't.
I have actually found PH's to be cheaper than roids.
I have actually found PH's to be cheaper than roids.
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LifterCA said:
1) steroids are the same way in that side effects vary and some people have very few, if any, on pretty high doses of some roids.
2) steroids are not that dangerous for the most part, so prohormones being safer sounds rather silly.
3) prohormones are overpriced. Your steroid source is raping you if he charges more for them.
4) a little knowledge of science tells me that pro-hormones shouldn't give you gains, outside of a placebo effect.
ZK, agreed. For the hardcore, it doesn't mater though. Then again, to make decent gains even on steroids one must train and eat in a manner that is far beyond that of the average person at any gym I've been too. So its unlike the prohormone crowd will achieve much.
LifterCA, what type of gains have you made? Do you have pics or stats?
I was on 1-AD for 1.5 weeks and made significant progress in strength.
Stats before:
Bench 240 5X5
Squat 240 5X5
Stats After:
Bench 255 5X5
Squat 285 5X5
Arms grew .5 of an inch too and gained 8 pounds.
If this isn't a massive amount of progress in a week, I don't know what is. People have even commented on how much bigger I look, and I know it's not what I have been eating, because I eat junk food. Plus, the place I go buy my 1-AD is owned by a cool group of guys who have done roids, who have tried everything, and they say 1-AD does the exact same thing as roids. So, I would believe the source who has tried stuff for himself.
It's just too funny when you come to this forum, give a bad rep to the PH's, when in reality they do work.
Don't believe me as you may, but I will keep with my PH's.
Stats before:
Bench 240 5X5
Squat 240 5X5
Stats After:
Bench 255 5X5
Squat 285 5X5
Arms grew .5 of an inch too and gained 8 pounds.
If this isn't a massive amount of progress in a week, I don't know what is. People have even commented on how much bigger I look, and I know it's not what I have been eating, because I eat junk food. Plus, the place I go buy my 1-AD is owned by a cool group of guys who have done roids, who have tried everything, and they say 1-AD does the exact same thing as roids. So, I would believe the source who has tried stuff for himself.
It's just too funny when you come to this forum, give a bad rep to the PH's, when in reality they do work.
Don't believe me as you may, but I will keep with my PH's.
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d3t, I just typed a long, yet very abreviated answer to that question on the "This Forum is Horrible" thread. I really do not wish to retype, so take a look. Anyone with a basic understand of androgen regulation in the human body can explain why prohormones cannot work.
LifterCA, if you have a pill left of that wonderful bottle that gave you your gains, why don't you spend a few $$$ and have it analyzed. Wouldn't you like to know what you REALLY took? 285 squat for a 5X5? I hope anyone who has been working out for several years natural (ok, women are excluded) can do that. If you are going to try to convince me that a drug you are taking works please don't insult me by throwing out numbers that hundreds of natural guys with less than a year of train have hit. I do not mean that as an insult, but in all honesty, since that really isn't heavy, it could be nothing more than a placebo effect that gave you the courage to actually try a heavier weight that you had before.
LifterCA, if you have a pill left of that wonderful bottle that gave you your gains, why don't you spend a few $$$ and have it analyzed. Wouldn't you like to know what you REALLY took? 285 squat for a 5X5? I hope anyone who has been working out for several years natural (ok, women are excluded) can do that. If you are going to try to convince me that a drug you are taking works please don't insult me by throwing out numbers that hundreds of natural guys with less than a year of train have hit. I do not mean that as an insult, but in all honesty, since that really isn't heavy, it could be nothing more than a placebo effect that gave you the courage to actually try a heavier weight that you had before.
