I need help, ITs pretty serious and im nervous as hell

[bca21]

I went to my po box today and i found a leeter in it. It was from The united States Food and Drug Administration (fda) It said on the letter A mail adressed to you from a forieng country is being held by the post office at the request of the Us FdA.

Product description 5 boxes/ 10 blue caped vials of white crystal powder unidentified, suspected hgh.

bla bla bla. so what should i do? Is there a chance they could be watching my box now? What could they do? Should i get anather po box at a different po? LMKi need some advise

 

[GymIntensity]

im no mail expert bro, but I would definately be nervous about that depending on where you live. if in states, i would be worried. Definately wouldn't use that box for any gear whatsoever. gluck

 

[juicedmick]

I hope your kidding when you asked"should I get another PO box"? Your addy is flagged, get another box and go DOMESTIC

 

[c3bodybuilding]

Blue tops are so cheap it's not worth ordering int. I would view it as a loss and order domestic as Juicedmick said.

 

[alcatraz1662]

I went to my po box today and i found a leeter in it. It was from The united States Food and Drug Administration (fda) It said on the letter A mail adressed to you from a forieng country is being held by the post office at the request of the Us FdA.

Product description 5 boxes/ 10 blue caped vials of white crystal powder unidentified, suspected hgh.

bla bla bla. so what should i do? Is there a chance they could be watching my box now? What could they do? Should i get anather po box at a different po? LMKi need some advise

Don't respond to the letter.....you just lost 10 vials of GH.....

DO NOT use that PO box again! You have to pay so much a month for the box right.....let the lease run out and just get another.

But do this later on down the road....you need to lay low for a while, bro. Ask some buddies to get gear for ya.

 

[bca21]

nO I LOST 30 VIALS OF HGH BUT ITS ALRIGHT HE RESENT TO MY HOUSE AND THEY SHOWED UP(sorry bout caps)

 

[juicedmick]

nO I LOST 30 VIALS OF HGH BUT ITS ALRIGHT HE RESENT TO MY HOUSE AND THEY SHOWED UP(sorry bout caps)

So much for "laying low" I can see you all about safety!

 

[juicedmick]

nO I LOST 30 VIALS OF HGH BUT ITS ALRIGHT HE RESENT TO MY HOUSE AND THEY SHOWED UP(sorry bout caps)

If you just got the letter today, howd he re-send and you received them already???? Something doesnt make sense

 

[bbkingpin]

If you just got the letter today, howd he re-send and you received them already???? Something doesnt make sense

Great question. WTF?

 

[mono_1]

30 dam get a real job

 

[bca21]

30 dam get a real job

I dont get it.

No i sent out money about a month ago. He sent it to my po box and said he neaded to resend to a different addy so i sent a different addy. I got it about 2 days ago at my house then today i got a letter from the fda. But 30 vials is only 300ius and its not clssifeid in the same class as aas.

 

[BigCracker]

Don't respond to the letter.....you just lost 10 vials of GH.....

DO NOT use that PO box again! You have to pay so much a month for the box right.....let the lease run out and just get another.

But do this later on down the road....you need to lay low for a while, bro. Ask some buddies to get gear for ya.

Sound advice from a member with under 300 posts? Amazing. I'd rather margin on the error of safe as opposed to sorry, but most likely nothing will come of it. Just don't contact the # provided, shred the letter, and if anyone comes to your house(cops, DEA,etc) play Corky Thatcher. Deny 100% no matter what they say-even if they say they have video-deny 100% Giving in so much as a little tiny bit will be an admission of guilt in the court's eyes. I can't possibly emphasize the importance of this when getting busted for anything. The cops will make it seem like your problem will go away if you cooperate with them. This is a total lie. They will even act angry when you don't cooperate. It's part of their training to psyche you out and get you to admit guilt while under stress so your charges will stick in court. So many guys I've told this seem to understand, then when faced with the situation they totally crack. Then $5000-$10000 in legal fees/fines later they realize that if they would've listened to me they would've gotten off with 2 yrs probation -or possibly even have the charges dropped instead. This is because the prosecutor would've had to spend more time/$$$ on the case when you didn't admit knowledge of possession,delivery, etc. Therefore you'll get offered a better deal as a plea bargain. When being questioned by cops it's best to remain silent and ask for a lawyer-even if you don't have one the court will appoint you one for free.

 

[ncsu95]

If it was me, I'd contact an attorney for advice on what to do just to be safe and just in case someone does come knocking on your door.

 

[Selene]

you should copy letter to send to supplier, but obviously he resend already, do not as others say use this address again it no longer good for any international mail

 

[NickyE3]

Sound advice from a member with under 300 posts? Amazing. I'd rather margin on the error of safe as opposed to sorry, but most likely nothing will come of it. Just don't contact the # provided, shred the letter, and if anyone comes to your house(cops, DEA,etc) play Corky Thatcher. Deny 100% no matter what they say-even if they say they have video-deny 100% Giving in so much as a little tiny bit will be an admission of guilt in the court's eyes. I can't possibly emphasize the importance of this when getting busted for anything. The cops will make it seem like your problem will go away if you cooperate with them. This is a total lie. They will even act angry when you don't cooperate. It's part of their training to psyche you out and get you to admit guilt while under stress so your charges will stick in court. So many guys I've told this seem to understand, then when faced with the situation they totally crack. Then $5000-$10000 in legal fees/fines later they realize that if they would've listened to me they would've gotten off with 2 yrs probation -or possibly even have the charges dropped instead. This is because the prosecutor would've had to spend more time/$$$ on the case when you didn't admit knowledge of possession,delivery, etc. Therefore you'll get offered a better deal as a plea bargain. When being questioned by cops it's best to remain silent and ask for a lawyer-even if you don't have one the court will appoint you one for free.

cracker nailed it

 

[reaper99]

cracker is right here denial is the key. I had a friend who would deny things to the death, you could see him do it and he would deny it so much you would almost second guess it. It works cops ask questions to get answers they don't have I have come to the conclusion that 90% of the time you can get off by denying shit, well as long as they don't have video or circumstantial evidence which cost money and time to get. Just plain keep quiet act as if your a fucking mute. IMO I think it would be extremely hard for them to prosecute someone just by getting a pacage in the mail. How do they know somebody else wasn't playing a prank and sending that shit to your P.O. box?

 

[BigCracker]

cracker is right here denial is the key. I had a friend who would deny things to the death, you could see him do it and he would deny it so much you would almost second guess it. It works cops ask questions to get answers they don't have I have come to the conclusion that 90% of the time you can get off by denying shit, well as long as they don't have video or circumstantial evidence which cost money and time to get. Just plain keep quiet act as if your a fucking mute. IMO I think it would be extremely hard for them to prosecute someone just by getting a pacage in the mail. How do they know somebody else wasn't playing a prank and sending that shit to your P.O. box?

cops lie. That's how. My good bro made the mistake of answering the door for a delivery. He knew better than to sign for it. After he refused to sign it, the UPS guy( an undercover cop in a UPS uniform w/ an actual UPS Truck) threw the package in his apartment (this part was conveniently left out of the police report). Next thing ya know 10 cops in full SWAT gear pop out of the back of the UPS Truck and rush into his crib. He got charged with possesion and taking delivery of AS through the mail. Both felonies. He kept quiet and DEA bugged him for days threatening him w/hard labor jail time. They even rearrested him again a few days later after he bonded out just to sweat him another 24 hrs. He stayed quiet. When court day came he got offered 2 yrs probation and a misdemeanor drug charge. If he would've cooperated and somehow further incriminated himself he probably would've gotten at least 1 yr in jail and $10K in fines for the same exact thing.

Now before everybody starts freaking out-this guy was the typical meathead BB that would score gear for anyone to support his own 5000/mg/wk habit. His personal orders were so big it would've made him look like a dealer even if he wasn't. He was discreet, but had too many punk kids buying gear from him. Supposedly some kid's dad found his kid's gear and called the cops and got my bro's address flagged. That's how they found out he had roids coming to his crib. So with that being said, the chances of cops pulling this kind of bust on some casual user/non dealer is highly unlikely though.

 

[chazk]

Erase Your Computer Right Fucking Now! Pull The Hard Drive Burn It In Gasoline. Go Buy Another For 75$.
Clean House Take Everything Out Any Western Union Slips. And Books With Your Cycles Planned, Needles, Roids Get Them Out Of The House

All You Need Is A Pencil Neck Dork Ass Cop To Get A Warrant. They Can And Will Do It . Guy In Orlando Florida Got His House Raided With " Suspect Prob Cuase For Distribution" Becuase They Found Get This 100 Unmarked Pills " Suspected Anabolic Compound" Mailed To His House .during The Raid Turned Up A Few Things But Not Much .
He Didnt Even Know The Pills Were Sent To His House They Intercepted The Package Then Just Decided To Move In. Then The Guy Claimed 3 Weeks Later He Got A Letter From Customs. Seems Cuctoms Informed Local Athorities That Had Nothing Else To Do But Eat Doughnuts And Busta Local User.

I Say They Gave You Fair Warning With The Letter. Now Its Just A Matter Of Denying Everything. But When You Do You Have To Have A Clean House And Computer Or They Will Use It Against You In Court.

Never Know Who They Want To Use As A Example It Could Be You.

 

[chazk]

SOME MIGHT THINK IM OVER REACTING ABOUT THIS SITUATION
BUT IM SERIOUS NEVER UNDER ESTIMATE THE MAN.

 

[bbkingpin]

He stayed quiet. When court day came he got offered 2 yrs probation and a misdemeanor drug charge. If he would've cooperated and somehow further incriminated himself he probably would've gotten at least 1 yr in jail and $10K in fines for the same exact thing.

So how did it end for your silent friend? Did he go to trial? What happened?

 

[alcatraz1662]

Sound advice from a member with under 300 posts? Amazing. I'd rather margin on the error of safe as opposed to sorry, but most likely nothing will come of it. Just don't contact the # provided, shred the letter, and if anyone comes to your house(cops, DEA,etc) play Corky Thatcher. Deny 100% no matter what they say-even if they say they have video-deny 100% Giving in so much as a little tiny bit will be an admission of guilt in the court's eyes. I can't possibly emphasize the importance of this when getting busted for anything. The cops will make it seem like your problem will go away if you cooperate with them. This is a total lie. They will even act angry when you don't cooperate. It's part of their training to psyche you out and get you to admit guilt while under stress so your charges will stick in court. So many guys I've told this seem to understand, then when faced with the situation they totally crack. Then $5000-$10000 in legal fees/fines later they realize that if they would've listened to me they would've gotten off with 2 yrs probation -or possibly even have the charges dropped instead. This is because the prosecutor would've had to spend more time/$$$ on the case when you didn't admit knowledge of possession,delivery, etc. Therefore you'll get offered a better deal as a plea bargain. When being questioned by cops it's best to remain silent and ask for a lawyer-even if you don't have one the court will appoint you one for free.

I do way more reading than posting

Wish some other people around would do the same, lol.

 

[BigCracker]

So how did it end for your silent friend? Did he go to trial? What happened?

He took the plea bargain and like the typical bodybuilder skipped town and blew of his probation after about a year. He lives in Maine now and as far as I know still has a warrant here in Pho-town. I still can't believe the lucky fucker got off so easy on 2 felonies-and now he's a fugitive.

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

You can deny deny deny all you want, your name is on the package.. Do you honestly think the cops/DEA are going to believe you were being set up? Especially if you are some jacked up mother f*cker 275lb 7% bodyfat, with veins popping out of your neck.. Please.. Best thing to do, if anything happens, keep you mouth shut, and ask for an attorney right away, and let him sort it out. Once you open your mouth, your f*cked..

And your computer can never be erased 100%! Those programs you get for $100 bucks, and supposibly erase your tracks.. bullshit too!! I agree if you are that concerned, destroy or burn the harddrive, but that is getting a little extreme for 10 vials of rHGH..

 

[kbrkbr]

I think everyone is overreacting. It's just a siezure letter, for chrissakes!

My former wo partner has gotten at least six of them. Ive gotten one. Just ignore it.

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

I think everyone is overreacting. It's just a siezure letter, for chrissakes!

My former wo partner has gotten at least six of them. Ive gotten one. Just ignore it.

Thats what Im saying.. One guy even said to clean house! lol..

 

[a creed]

Getting my first siezure letter ranks right up there with losing my virginity and sticking myself for the first time............

Get over it, or move on to shuffleboard............

 

[kbrkbr]

Thats what Im saying.. One guy even said to clean house! lol..

I mean, c'mon. The fucking letter even says they suspect it's gh. LE has better things to do than send in the army over personal use gh.

 

[bbkingpin]

He took the plea bargain and like the typical bodybuilder skipped town and blew of his probation after about a year. He lives in Maine now and as far as I know still has a warrant here in Pho-town. I still can't believe the lucky fucker got off so easy on 2 felonies-and now he's a fugitive.

If he gets stopped even for stop sign he'll be arrested and extradited. He should find another country to live in.

 

[sweatandscience]

if anyone comes to your house(cops, DEA,etc) play Corky Thatcher. Deny 100% no matter what they say-even if they say they have video-deny 100% Giving in so much as a little tiny bit will be an admission of guilt in the court's eyes. I can't possibly emphasize the importance of this when getting busted for anything. The cops will make it seem like your problem will go away if you cooperate with them. This is a total lie. They will even act angry when you don't cooperate. It's part of their training to psyche you out and get you to admit guilt while under stress so your charges will stick in court. So many guys I've told this seem to understand, then when faced with the situation they totally crack. Then $5000-$10000 in legal fees/fines later they realize that if they would've listened to me they would've gotten off with 2 yrs probation -or possibly even have the charges dropped instead. This is because the prosecutor would've had to spend more time/$$$ on the case when you didn't admit knowledge of possession,delivery, etc. Therefore you'll get offered a better deal as a plea bargain. When being questioned by cops it's best to remain silent and ask for a lawyer-even if you don't have one the court will appoint you one for free.

The ONLY time that a law enforcement officer can not lie is A COURT OF LAW.
At all other times it is to be assumed that what they are telling you is a lie.
SIMPLE RULES:

1) PLAY DUMB
2) DO NOT ADMIT TO ANYTHING, just say something like "I'm confused, I don't know what's going on, and I'd better get a lawyer because what you're talking about sounds like a serious crime." And leave it at that.
3) COPS CANT MAKE DEALS TO LIGHTEN YOUR SENTENCE. Only the prosecutor or judge can do that.
4) BEING "TRUTHFUL" TO COPS IS THE STUPIDEST THING YOU CAN DO.
5) TRYING TO CONCOCT A STORY (LYING) TO COPS IS THE SECOND STUPIDEST THING YOU CAN DO. (just don't say ANYTHING!)
6) IF YOU GIVE UP YOUR SUPPLIER, THEN THE COPS HAVE TWO ARRESTS INSTEAD OF ONE. THEY WILL NOT, I REPEAT, NOT LET YOU GO IF YOU GIVE SOMEONE UP. No matter how many times they say that or how many different ways they say it, don't believe it. EVER.

 

[a creed]

wow - how about just go lift or do some cardio...............................


Nothing going on here..........

 

[BigCracker]

I think everyone is overreacting. It's just a siezure letter, for chrissakes!

My former wo partner has gotten at least six of them. Ive gotten one. Just ignore it.

Every guy in cell block c says the same thing.

 

[JuicedAthletics]

The day I get a seizure letter is the day I know Ive slipped up..

Im sorry but if I was to get a seizure letter I would pack up and find a new place to have gear sent to.. I dont think you can over-react enough if you get a seizure letter..

In case you forgot, gear is illegal.. Don't take it for granted...

 

[b_light]

I know a guy that got off thru a deal with the cops because when they said they would cut him and deal he wrote it all down on paper and made them sign it and had an attorney present to witness it.

 

[medical]

I know a guy that got off thru a deal with the cops because when they said they would cut him and deal he wrote it all down on paper and made them sign it and had an attorney present to witness it.

Mmmmmkay.

 

[Caper26]

I agree with cracker. Good advice. Another thing that i have learned about the cops is that unless the are cuffing you on the spot and taking you under arrest right then and there, then just save them their breath and your stress and ask "are you placing my under arrest?" they have to tell you when you ask. If they say no, you can simply tell them you do not wish to speak to them. Even denial is dialogue and should be avoided when possible. Of course some of our laws are quite different in Canada.

Caper26

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

I know a guy that got off thru a deal with the cops because when they said they would cut him and deal he wrote it all down on paper and made them sign it and had an attorney present to witness it.

what was the charge?

 

[speedytransam]

They Aint Got Sh1t On You
Some1 Sent It To You So..................your Finger Prints Aint On It Or Anything.
Just Stay Low Key
Trust Me I No
Heres A Way To Pop Sh1t Off
Since Your Dealing With Little Bottles 1 By 1 Or 10 By 10
Go Get A Bag Of Chips From The 25 Cent Ones For 1 By 1 Or The Big Bag 10 By 10 And Crazy Glue
Leave Chips In The Bag And Drop Them In There And Crazy Glues The Seam.........................................
All Done
Good Luck

 

[sweatandscience]

dammit thats funny ^

 

[kbrkbr]

Every guy in cell block c says the same thing.

Can you produce evidence of ANYONE IN AMERICA going to prison for personal use gh? Would love to see it.

 

[danasti]

There seems to be some confusion about what someone should do.

First, #1 and Always: It's up to you! If you want to and choose to talk to the cops that is your choice.

However, you don't ever have to talk to the police. Ever! Period. No matter what. If you are arrested and they put you into a room all you have to do is ask for a lawyer. Once you say those words they must by law provide one.

They have to provide you with a lawyer without any furthur questioning. Period. Those are the plain and simple rules.

Now - The lawyer will come and the very first thing he will tell you is to keep your damn mouth shut.

Within the next day or so bail will be set or you will even more likely be released on the spot knowing that it's up to the police and the procecutor to build a case against you.

Point: You never have to sit in a room and talk to the cops if you don't want to. This goes for any crime - no matter what it is - as long as you are a citizen taken into custody in the US.

Alot of people don't know that they don't have to say a word and the police take advantage of this cause anything you say can and will be used against you.

The ONLY time that a law enforcement officer can not lie is A COURT OF LAW.
At all other times it is to be assumed that what they are telling you is a lie.
SIMPLE RULES:

1) PLAY DUMB
2) DO NOT ADMIT TO ANYTHING, just say something like "I'm confused, I don't know what's going on, and I'd better get a lawyer because what you're talking about sounds like a serious crime." And leave it at that.
3) COPS CANT MAKE DEALS TO LIGHTEN YOUR SENTENCE. Only the prosecutor or judge can do that.
4) BEING "TRUTHFUL" TO COPS IS THE STUPIDEST THING YOU CAN DO.
5) TRYING TO CONCOCT A STORY (LYING) TO COPS IS THE SECOND STUPIDEST THING YOU CAN DO. (just don't say ANYTHING!)
6) IF YOU GIVE UP YOUR SUPPLIER, THEN THE COPS HAVE TWO ARRESTS INSTEAD OF ONE. THEY WILL NOT, I REPEAT, NOT LET YOU GO IF YOU GIVE SOMEONE UP. No matter how many times they say that or how many different ways they say it, don't believe it. EVER.

 

[Alpine]

He took the plea bargain and like the typical bodybuilder skipped town and blew of his probation after about a year. He lives in Maine now and as far as I know still has a warrant here in Pho-town. I still can't believe the lucky fucker got off so easy on 2 felonies-and now he's a fugitive.

You've got some of the most interesting stories I've ever read on here. Sounds like you've seen a few things in your time.

 

[Zyglamail]

I went to my po box today and i found a leeter in it. It was from The united States Food and Drug Administration (fda) It said on the letter A mail adressed to you from a forieng country is being held by the post office at the request of the Us FdA.

Product description 5 boxes/ 10 blue caped vials of white crystal powder unidentified, suspected hgh.

bla bla bla. so what should i do? Is there a chance they could be watching my box now? What could they do? Should i get anather po box at a different po? LMKi need some advise

FYI, In some states GH is scheduled just like AAS.

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

dammit thats funny ^

Actually its quite stupid. How old are you 13?