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I just got a raise

Lumberg said:
3.2%

BOO-YAH!

Toothpicks are on me tonight.

congratulations!!!! :rose:
 
Wow, 3.2%? Scrooge must be feeling generous today.


That type of raise seems like more of an insult than anything. Bastards.
 
My old employer used to give out 2% "cost of living" raises every year and if you were really really good, you might get an extra 3 for a total of 5%. We all boycotted one year and told them we didn't want the 2% raises and that the cost of paperwork to put them into effect was more than the raises themselves. Management didn't like that and told us we had to take the raises. Fuckers.
 
Seems like the norm. My wife`s getting that too at her "review" lol wtf are they gonna review? Still 3% adds up after a while. 5 or 10 is better though. lol <---Mr obvious says...
 
jestros said:
Wow, 3.2%? Scrooge must be feeling generous today.


That type of raise seems like more of an insult than anything. Bastards.

Yeah if you get a "commendable" rating you get 3.2%. If you get an "outstanding" rating you get 4.2%.

So the REAL insult is to the "outstanding" performers. I would wager that to get an "outstanding" rating you have to work more than 1% harder than required to get a "commendable" rating. So that's a real slap in the face. I got outstandings the last 2 years but I transferred to a new job and my last boss held a grudge so he sabotaged my rating for the new job. But in a way I feel happier to be on the other side of the coin and laugh at the people who got "outstanding."
 
4% of say... $40,000 isn't much, but 4% of say... $90,000 is
right ?


In October I got my annual Merit raise and a Labor Grade promotion back to back

Merit 5.4 %
Promo 8.6%

14% in one month... double boo yaaa
 
Lumberg said:
Yeah if you get a "commendable" rating you get 3.2%. If you get an "outstanding" rating you get 4.2%.

So the REAL insult is to the "outstanding" performers. I would wager that to get an "outstanding" rating you have to work more than 1% harder than required to get a "commendable" rating. So that's a real slap in the face. I got outstandings the last 2 years but I transferred to a new job and my last boss held a grudge so he sabotaged my rating for the new job. But in a way I feel happier to be on the other side of the coin and laugh at the people who got "outstanding."

Does this mean you are in charge of the fries or drive-up window?
 
Y_Lifter said:
4% of say... $40,000 isn't much, but 4% of say... $90,000 is
right ?


In October I got my annual Merit raise and a Labor Grade promotion back to back

Merit 5.4 %
Promo 8.6%

14% in one month... double boo yaaa
On behalf of myself and many others, a heartfelt "YOU SUCK" to you, sir.
 
Not my forte but I think cost of living raises vary state to state and if I recall NY is around 6%. (ANyone know about this please correct me - I'm curious anyway.)


My last four years with the prior boss I wasn't offered a raise even though I ran their business, My "bonus" was $100 after nearly 8 years there and they never ever "had any money".
 
vinylgroover said:
I'd rather get a plasitc watch than a 4% raise, but better in your pockets than their's i guess.


LOL you guys making mad cash... Nothing wrong with 4 or 5% IMO. That adds up. If you made 10% + every year, we would all be rich. Then again, this is EF...
 
Most companies around where I live, the average raise is 2-5%, 5% being unusual.

Just the joys of the economy right now.

Oh, for the tech boom of old.
 
U are correct, that 1% ain't worth it! Way to go LB.

Lumberg said:
Yeah if you get a "commendable" rating you get 3.2%. If you get an "outstanding" rating you get 4.2%.

So the REAL insult is to the "outstanding" performers. I would wager that to get an "outstanding" rating you have to work more than 1% harder than required to get a "commendable" rating. So that's a real slap in the face. I got outstandings the last 2 years but I transferred to a new job and my last boss held a grudge so he sabotaged my rating for the new job. But in a way I feel happier to be on the other side of the coin and laugh at the people who got "outstanding."
 
i got 3.5% my last review.

so you are comparing 3.2% to 4.2% and saying you have to work a lot more then 1% harder to get that extra 1% raise?

That's some seriously flawed logic. The differece between 3.2% and 4.2% is 30%... you are getting a 30% BIGGER raise....
 
rsnoble-im-back said:
U are correct, that 1% ain't worth it! Way to go LB.



ummm from 3.2% to 4.2% is NOT a 1% harder effort. You have to go by percentage terms to figure out how much "harder" you`re working.

When you go from 3 to 4, you`re going up 33% not 1%. I`m not arguing the case of who and why to get raises, I`m just stating the mathematical facts.
 
Lestat said:
i got 3.5% my last review.

so you are comparing 3.2% to 4.2% and saying you have to work a lot more then 1% harder to get that extra 1% raise?

That's some seriously flawed logic. The differece between 3.2% and 4.2% is 30%... you are getting a 30% BIGGER raise....

Why are all you guys arguing over 3%..3.2%..1%...4%...etc??? It doesn't matter!!

I tell you what....You can all kiss 3.2876389% of my ASS





;)
 
Lestat said:
i got 3.5% my last review.

so you are comparing 3.2% to 4.2% and saying you have to work a lot more then 1% harder to get that extra 1% raise?

That's some seriously flawed logic. The differece between 3.2% and 4.2% is 30%... you are getting a 30% BIGGER raise....



I said the same thing. lol You type a lot faster than I do.
 
To me, if i'm busting my ass for my employer, i would view 3 or 4% as an insult.

I would rather be presented with a nice gift like a watch or a holiday or something than a $2000 pay rise.
 
velvett said:
Not my forte but I think cost of living raises vary state to state and if I recall NY is around 6%. (ANyone know about this please correct me - I'm curious anyway.)


My last four years with the prior boss I wasn't offered a raise even though I ran their business, My "bonus" was $100 after nearly 8 years there and they never ever "had any money".

COLAs are year-to-year adjustments based mostly on inflation. NY doesn't consistenly have higher inflation than the rest of the country. You may be confusing COLAs with locality pay, which would obviously be higher in places like NYC, SanFran, etc.
 
Is`nt there a certain limit to what you can get anyway, before they tell you to either stop getting raises or get promoted to another position coupled with more responsibilties?
 
gonelifting said:
I said the same thing. lol You type a lot faster than I do.
I had to lay the smack down on that one man... i hate to see logic THAT fucked up..

Actually.. people who think like that make it easy for the over acheivers to get that extra 1% raise with ease.. the other people just don't bother.

Also keep in mind bitches, its compounded the next time you get a raise. So lets pretend you get 3% every 6 months and I get 4% every 6 months.. we both start out making 50K... in just a few years I'm gonna be making substantionally more then you.. all for working just 1% harder.. ha!
 
gonelifting said:
Is`nt there a certain limit to what you can get anyway, before they tell you to either stop getting raises or get promoted to another position coupled with more responsibilties?
at my company there is.. but you still can get bonuses.. which can help.. your base salary just wont go up.. you have to be making the 99th percentile for your title though.. tough to do.. I make the 40th-50th percentile for my title now.. still some room to grow.
 
vinylgroover said:
To me, if i'm busting my ass for my employer, i would view 3 or 4% as an insult.

I would rather be presented with a nice gift like a watch or a holiday or something than a $2000 pay rise.
I get raises 2x per year... without a promotion its somewhere between 2-5%... that's every 6 months.

Plus bonuses and stock options.. last bonus for me was 2800... that's for 6 months. It adds up man.
 
I got a nearly 50% raise when I started this new job. But I have to live on the rig now until TD, Right now though I am stuck up in North Dakota following a rig around. 17 degrees and windy. Thank god I am inside.
 
THe smacketh goes the other way now noobs.

Two guys make 50k a year. Guy a gets commendable, Guy b gets oustanding.

The next year, A is making 51,600. B is making 52,100, or $500 more. That's actually less than 1% more than 51,600. SO B , after working more than 1% harder, makes less than 1% more money. So the people that work hard 4 the sake of working hard get a little bit more, and the lazy ones stay comfortable.

I'm talking about any one given year. People here don't typically string together many consecutive outstanding years. But let's 4 the sake of argument say that the trend continues 4 10 years.

A makes 50,000x(1.032^10)=68,512. B makes 75,448. That's only 10% more. So after 10 years, working probably 10% harder than your average worker (commendable), you're still behind. IT probably doesn't start to catch up until you stay at the company 4 like 30 years.

Go back to school kids, study some finance, and come back when you have a clue.
 
One guy dumps 75 K into gold in 2000 and earns on average 75.8% in 3.5 years with a projected 20% RIO per year over the next 3.

How high is congress going to raise the debt ceiling lumberg? Come on...gimme.... :)
 
Lestat said:
Also keep in mind bitches, its compounded the next time you get a raise. !



Exactly!!! "compounded" is the key word. I did`nt want to get too involved with my post but glad you said it. Of course every little bit counts.

10%/year is unsustainable. Making 60k/year with 10%, you`ll end up making over $400,000 at 20 years.

2-10% is more realistic.

Also, why are`nt Smurfy and Lumberg band yet? Did`nt they have sex right on the chat board or something? That`s unacceptable.
 
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