I haven't cycled in YEARS (and I'm old) thoughts?? :)

[anabolicanimal1]

Thanks Moya.. I appreciate it man.. Quite honestly... I'm gunna try and follow a diet similar to yours... with your macros etc.. Should be interesting... I have some before pics here:

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/diet-bodybuilding/its-diet-time-bitin-bullet-742023.html

Your only to old when you say you are bro your far to young to be even thinking that man your mindset should be your only just beginning

 

[stevesmi]

u obviously like eq from previous experience, so just go with what works.

keep in mind recovery is gonna be a bit tougher this time around.

 

[RADAR]

Thoughts on a cycle...

Age: 34
Height: 5'11
Weight: 196lbs
BF% - 16%

Training history:

I started when I was 18 @ 123lbs.

Cycle History:

1st cycle was test only 250mg/week for 8 weeks.. gained/kept 16lbs
2nd was Test/Deca/Dbol
3rd was Test/Eq/Dbol

For a 4th cycle... I was thinking (goals are mass... with little fat gain)
TDEE: 3000 cals

Cycle:

Week 1 - 4 Dbol 50mgday
Week 1 - 16 600mg Test C
Week 1 - 15 600mg EQ
Week 12 - 18 Var 40mg/day

Week 3 - 7 HCG 250iu 2 x week
Week 11 - 15 HCG 250iu 2 x week

Week 19 - 22 Nolva 40/40/20/20

Thoughts??

You started near the age i started training.
EQ is not going to put on much if very little mass,Why not NNP or Deca Durabolin?

Dbol....50mg

Test ...600mg

Deca/nnp...400mg

Is a proven mass builder

 

[StRoNg_WoN]

Yea... well I initially got the EQ cuz of the increased RBC count... I figured it might help my gas for Muay Thai... but as luck would have it.. I'm now taking a break from MT, and want to focus on lifting... I already got the gear... so that's what I got to work with...

I MIGHT still switch it up though, and go with the Dbol... we'll see... but I figure if I have the EQ... I may as well use it...

Thanks man... I guess the whole 'old' thing is pretty cheeseballish... I was on Tnation, and saw they have an 'over 35' board... I guess I was just 'having a moment' lol

 

[RADAR]

Yea... well I initially got the EQ cuz of the increased RBC count... I figured it might help my gas for Muay Thai... but as luck would have it.. I'm now taking a break from MT, and want to focus on lifting... I already got the gear... so that's what I got to work with...

I MIGHT still switch it up though, and go with the Dbol... we'll see... but I figure if I have the EQ... I may as well use it...

Thanks man... I guess the whole 'old' thing is pretty cheeseballish... I was on Tnation, and saw they have an 'over 35' board... I guess I was just 'having a moment' lol

I visit that site occasionally as i'm almost 60,but the action is over here. so Quit thinking 35 is old.Hell,i out lift almost everyone in my gym.

 

[StRoNg_WoN]

Yes sir.. Hehehehe

 

[StRoNg_WoN]

So listen here gents...

I was HOPING to gain mass for at least the 12 of the 16 weeks.. then perhaps try to harden up with the var at the end... would there be ANY benefit to switching esters from Enanthate, to say Prop EOD? as far as water retention, and all that goes... or just let the food do the 'talking' so to speak? I'm gunna run the EQ all the way through regardless.. as it apparently needs to be run a long time anyway...

 

[RADAR]

So listen here gents...

I was HOPING to gain mass for at least the 12 of the 16 weeks.. then perhaps try to harden up with the var at the end... would there be ANY benefit to switching esters from Enanthate, to say Prop EOD? as far as water retention, and all that goes... or just let the food do the 'talking' so to speak? I'm gunna run the EQ all the way through regardless.. as it apparently needs to be run a long time anyway...

It would be hell of alot easier to run enanthate then prop,those every day pokes will have you feeling like a pin cushion. Add some forma stanazol to fight the bloat and your golden.

 

[moya]

if you dont mind a little pain suspension would be awesome to finish with... if i had some on hand that is what i would have used...

 

[StRoNg_WoN]

K... thanks guys...

So yea.. this forma stanazol... man... all these OTC stuff looks AMAZING.. I am TOTALLY getting:

forma stanazol
Unleashed
Post Cycle

I think that'll cover my PCT if I run HCG the way I have it listed...

I have lots of Nolva and Clomid.. but I'd like to ditch those in favor of this stuff..

I'm gunna go find out how to run these...

*is excited*