i have instinct, dammit

[Lao Tzu]

ok, i know some of you will think i'm full of shit but i don't care.

i have instinct. but i can't harness or understand it.

today i was watching a movie with my brother & his wife. for no reason, i started thinking of a friend whom i know who tried to kill himself 2x in a month. when i got home & checked my email (another email address) i found out that he killed himself a couple days ago. i know im supposed to be mad n shit, but this is what he wanted. godspeed.

also, about a week before the WTC attacks, for no reason i started thinking of what would happen if the towers got knocked down. why the first attempt failed, what the world would be like if they got knocked down.

also, i will, when sitting alone, start thinking of an episode of the simpsons only to see that episode on tv a few days later.

so i assume i have instinct. there are other examples of this happening. but i never pay attention to it. i usually don't even consciously realize i have it until it is too late (something happens that makes me realize that i was thinking about that subject for no reason a day before).

im reading 'the user illusion' in the hopes that that can make me more conscious of my instincts.

anyway, goodbye tyler. i know you're better off this way.

 

[HappyScrappy]

there's a term for this in psychology.

I used to wonder about it - like standing near the phone, thinking I should call my dad, and then I pick up the phone and he is on the line.

but in reality, coincidental things are going to happen.
this aligned with the fact that the human mind seeks patterns as a survival method, coupled with the fact that humans want to feel special and they are somehow valid.

so you choose to align occurances with given memories.
there are thousands of things that go by everyday that don't match - like you think of miss piggy, and you round the corner and BAM - there's a Burger King. has no bearing at all on what you were thinking - so you don't register it.
but were you thinking, hot damn I'd love Burger King, and you round the corner and it is there - then hot damn, you are psychic.

your brain is seeking out positive reenforcement and ignoring the stuff that would disprove it.

I can go on.

 

[Lao Tzu]

yes. 'magical thinking' it is called when that happens. maybe i think of 1000 things a day but remember the 1 that actually happens.

but, (im trying to look this up) there was a report of a guy who reacted badly to flying. when he flew he went into stress mode which did something to his saliva. so scientists took some of his saliva, and kept it in a jar at the lab. when the guy took another flight, his saliva back at the lab reacted the same way his saliva in his mouth did (foamed up or something), even though there was no discernable communication between the man in the plane and his saliva sitting in a jar back at the lab.

the 100th monkey phenomenon was a hoax. but i can't find the study i just talked about (im checking google). if it isn't a hoax, that adds credibility to a form of communication that takes place on a non physical level.

 

[DcupSheepNipples]

Instinct my ass! Your just a serial nut nordstrom!

 

[HappyScrappy]

my ex-stepmom was big into this - you'd like her - she looks like Jodie Foster in Contact - and is totally insane.

she thought that she was psychic - so I'd think of a rose and ask her what I was thinking of - she'd say, "no, not like that - plus, I can't do it on command. I have to be in a group of people that are all aligned to the same mind plane, etc etc."
She said since we are all evolving, that some have a new part of the brain that can communicate with others and see the future. She was of course lucky enough to have this.
Never mind that she was in a failing marriage and had low self esteem and needed some sort fo self validation to justify her existence here. want to be special - why not start thinking you are evolving to be better than everyone else.
She apparently wasn't aware of the whole process involved in evolution, but I digress - she wasn't much of a science person.

She thought that if everyone thought that a bar stool was a banana at the same time, then it would turn into one. she was right that if we all called it a banana, then from then on - the banana would replace what is currently the bar stool - not the physical objet, but the semantic reference.
She didn't grasp that.

She used to buy crystals and she could go into great detail as to what will fix what and which ones help align your aura to the correct spatial plane and different planets.
But she couldn't figure out how to use the turn signal on her car and she left snow tires with spikes on for 2 years.

She also though that she could teleport. Which gets to what you are describing. There is the phenomena on the level of electrons where they will tunnel across space in an instant.
She figured if one electron could do it over some distance (even if it is less than the distance across a room in "the real world"), and since we are all made up of electrons (she actually wasn't aware of any of the other particles, which I always found amusing) - AND since those that are more evolutionarily advanced could control their entire body - which was made up of electrons, then a person could teleport wherver they wanted.

She of course could never get the lottery right, or predict events, or teleport anywhere even in our house. She didn't know what I was thinking, she never turned objets into other shit... but in her mind, she could do all this do to positive reenforcement.

You have said that you read fast - so it won't take you long to read Carl Sagan's "The Demon Haunted World" - I wish everyone in the world would read that instead of watching WWF and it would be a better place.

keep talking, I'm listening.

 

[rushx79]

strange shit.. one week before the wtc attack, this chick i know from back home was telling me about a dream she had. in this dream she said she was in nyc and that buildings were falling from some fire from the sky... pretty strange ehh? so i turned her ass into the fbi..j/j bout the last part...

 

[Lao Tzu]

im insane too (at least i was a few years ago. that went away), which is why i am giving up so easy on this discussion. i assume it probably is just magical thinking. seeing patterns where no patterns exist.

but i dont think i can move things with my mind or anything. but it would be nice to feel i could understand events that happened on the other side of the world w/o actually being there.

i never really felt i could predict the future as much as i could understand that something was going to happen because present scenario dictated it as a plausible outcome in a few days/weeks. the guy died the 2nd, today is the 4th. and the WTC thing happened a few weeks before they got knocked down, so the terrorists were dead set on it.

 

[HappyScrappy]

I can remember in my youth in elementary school I had a mechanical pencil. loved that thing. I'd get bored in class (3rd grade I think, but not certain) and I'd take it apart.
Well one day, they were teaching us all about the space shuttle that was going up that day. I never really thought much about it - at that time there were still shuttles going up pretty frequently - but this one had a teacher on board.
We were all going to be taken into one big classroom and watch it once it was up b/c they were doing some broadcast with the teacher on board.
But beforehand in our homerooms they were discussing various normal school things that day to get them out fo the way so we could do the shuttle thing.

I was kneeling on the ground, bored and had my pencil as always. I took it apart and was putting it back together, then started pretending it was a rocket shooting up into the air.
I then took it all apart and pretended that it exploded and rained down all over the place.

right at that instant, when the last peices of my imagined spaceraft had fallen to the ground, my concetration was broken by a teacher coming into the room and called my teacher out into the hall.
they then both came in, obviously disturbed and told us that the shuttle had just blown up.

then, as with the WTC, it was on the news non-stop for days.

I had done the explosion at the exact same time the shuttle went up.

I have a million stories like this, not all gruesome.

do I feel special or psychic?

nope.

 

[HappyScrappy]

one could argue that you are subconsiously gathering information all the time and then your brain does something with it in the background but it doesn't make it up to the front until later.

but if that were the case, it would seem it woudl surface more in the dreams since those seem to be the times when unreconcilled patterns are toyed with...

 

[HappyScrappy]

and I'm not saying you are insane. she was. you? don't know you, so I'm in no place to judge - and what is crazy these days anyway.

 

[rushx79]

I can remember in my youth in elementary school I had a mechanical pencil. loved that thing. I'd get bored in class (3rd grade I think, but not certain) and I'd take it apart.
Well one day, they were teaching us all about the space shuttle that was going up that day. I never really thought much about it - at that time there were still shuttles going up pretty frequently - but this one had a teacher on board.
We were all going to be taken into one big classroom and watch it once it was up b/c they were doing some broadcast with the teacher on board.
But beforehand in our homerooms they were discussing various normal school things that day to get them out fo the way so we could do the shuttle thing.

I was kneeling on the ground, bored and had my pencil as always. I took it apart and was putting it back together, then started pretending it was a rocket shooting up into the air.
I then took it all apart and pretended that it exploded and rained down all over the place.

right at that instant, when the last peices of my imagined spaceraft had fallen to the ground, my concetration was broken by a teacher coming into the room and called my teacher out into the hall.
they then both came in, obviously disturbed and told us that the shuttle had just blown up.

then, as with the WTC, it was on the news non-stop for days.

I had done the explosion at the exact same time the shuttle went up.

I have a million stories like this, not all gruesome.

do I feel special or psychic?

nope.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA i still do that in me college classes with me pens, but i pretend they are various nuclear wepons.. been doing that since i can remember..