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I have finished my first cycle, regret it..

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midsaede

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I have just finished my first cycle, gained about 2kg muscle. But man... I really regret it! I started way to early with steroids. Im 20 years old 150lbs. Why the f... did I use steroids now? :worried: If I tell people that I have used steroids just once, they will be like: aaah... no wonder you look fit! And I really hate that.

Hope my hpta a and everything will return to normal, where it was before the steroids. Got one week left of my pct, and really want to lose some fat. But if I go dieting now I guess I will lose all I gained in my cycle, and maybe more.

well, I guess its really too late for regrets now, but I will build muscles without steroids from now on.

Just wanted to share this, maybe some other will go natural instead of juicing because of this.. :verygood:


Has anyone else used steroids just once? when do you people think is the best time to start using steroids?
 
no sweat bro..

train naturally for at least a year..
i advise gettin to know the sport well.

then, when you're 30 pounds heavier, consider doing juice.
 
good for you bro for coming clean. at 20 you are so young and have so much time to get big. go naturally until you know for sure you are ready and in need of aas. good luck with the recovery. some of the newbies on here could learn a little from this guys experience.
 
satchboogie said:
no sweat bro..

train naturally for at least a year..
i advise gettin to know the sport well.

then, when you're 30 pounds heavier, consider doing juice.
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I agree...
Sorry about your regrets, man. 20 years old is a bit young to do anything that drastic. At least when you are a bit older and have a few more years behind you, you have the wisdom of not 'jumping the gun' to find a quick and easy way to get what you want. For some, it takes many years of hard work and dedication to achieve excelence. Some just want this without all of the work involved, they want it handed to them. The use of AAS has been around for many years, but most who have taken them were not nessaraly looking for a quick gain. (At least the good ones I know of, I'm sure there are some) They use them as a boost to their already hard work and dedication.
A number of youths don't stop at workout sessions alone. They turn to anabolic steroids and other performance-enhancing drugs to obtain faster results. Some young people even resort to steroid use without working out, simply waiting for their muscles to grow. Obviously not the way to go. They use them as peer recognition and a way to be accepted if they are great in aparticular sport the better off they are accepted and of course, a way to get the women.
All I can say is: :) no pain, no gain.
 
I distinctly get the impression this guy is full of it... nobody else thinks he's just breaking balls?
 
please detail your cycle, diet and training. 2 kilos (4.4 lbs) is low enough for my 'fake gear' flag to go up

what body changes did you observe
 
willis said:
I distinctly get the impression this guy is full of it... nobody else thinks he's just breaking balls?
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No... young misunderstood Willis,

I am just speaking from experience. I live in a small town and have seen what can happen to those of you who like to get all of the glory and not work for it. They pay the price one way or another, usally in regrets. This guy here sees that. You can't?

I'm not against AAS use at all. Far from it.
But education is one of the keys....
 
My cycle:
week 1-10 500mg testo enanthate
week 1-4 25mg dbol e.d.
week 1-12 10 mg nolva e.d.

PCT: clomid, 300mg first day, then 100 mg for ten days and finally 50mg for ten days.

I used my gear while cutting actually, my bodyfat% went down from 15-16% to 10-11%, and my bodyweight went up to kilos. Im happy with the results, I really am, but I didnt have to use aas to get this results. Shure it wouldt have taken me much longer time, but so what?

While on, I got some real good pumps on my workouts, god damn that felt good! I sure miss it now that Im off. The dbol made back lower back hurt like hell, like a painful pump or something. And I got som acne and musclecramps of it. I also bloated a bit from the dbol but nolva made sure I didnt bloat to much. I also noticed that my heart rate was higher then normal, and I often felt very dizzy. After finished 4 weeks with dbol the acne disappeared.
The four last weeks before clomid I was sick and tired of being on, just waiting for the pct to begin. I got sick and had to stay in bed for a week before pct, but strict dietting helped me keep my strengt and gains when I was ready for workout again.

I used glucorell r-ala during the whole cycle, 7-800 mg e.d. to prevent liver damage, and it also helps me on a diet.

My diet worked out well, because my eating was and still is very strict.

I train every other day, and has splitted my body to four parts:
Day 1 pecs
Day 2 back,biceps
Day 3 shoulders, triceps
Day 4 legs

2-3 worksets
 
fake gear or your diet sucked,probably diet,then you would be singing a different tune had you added 10kg
 
Im not against using aas either, I just believe that you should train naturally for some years before juicing. When you lack progress and have tried everything and still dont grow any bigger, THEN its time to consider aas.

Like parabellum said; live and learn! I have learned the wrong way, other people dont have to make the same mistake. Using aas involves some health risks
 
midsaede said:
Im not against using aas either, I just believe that you should train naturally for some years before juicing. When you lack progress and have tried everything and still dont grow any bigger, THEN its time to consider aas.

Like parabellum said; live and learn! I have learned the wrong way, other people dont have to make the same mistake. Using aas involves some health risks
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Exactly, that was my point.
 
ok so at 150lbs post cycle you gained 4.4lbs and went from 15-16% to 10-11%

ie a 145.6lb 15%bf person to a 150lb 10%bf person, meaning you really put on something a little over 10lbs and dropped 7 or so lbs fat.

eh cant complain. so long as your hpta gets back to normal, then it wasnt an expensive lesson at all. the opposite, rather.

what can i say, next time look before you leap, but its not like yours is a horror story by any measure. be glad of that

cheers
 
Dude, that was too much gear at your age and experience. Without a good base you won't find much satisfaction in gains from AAS.
 
Im happy with the results but i still, believe I should have waited with juicing. I was growing big time before the cycle
 
midsaede said:
yeah right, gaining 10kg when on a strict diet to lose fat? :p
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test & dbol & nolva does not scream SPRING CUTTING CYCLE. i dont get how you would want to be cutting fat at 150lb. Just put on a shit ton of muscle and your baby fat will most likely go away in the process
 
eviction said:
test & dbol & nolva does not scream SPRING CUTTING CYCLE. i dont get how you would want to be cutting fat at 150lb. Just put on a shit ton of muscle and your baby fat will most likely go away in the process
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Thats your oppinion, mine is another. I wanted to cut now so my look would be great during the summer. :cool:

I now know that it wasnt the best cutting cycle...

thanx for the advice, im still planning on putting on a ton of muscles,it just have to wait till after the summer.
 
chordz said:
Dude, that was too much gear at your age and experience. Without a good base you won't find much satisfaction in gains from AAS.
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too much? Man, I thought i took ok dosages?

Some of my friends take about 1300mg as e.w. and they are 18 years old... One of my friends still havent recovered his hpta six months after his last cycle, that was pretty hevvy. 700mg testo e.w, 400 mg deca and som dbol
 
midsaede said:
too much? Man, I thought i took ok dosages?

Some of my friends take about 1300mg as e.w. and they are 18 years old... One of my friends still havent recovered his hpta six months after his last cycle, that was pretty hevvy. 700mg testo e.w, 400 mg deca and som dbol
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because your friends are idiots and dont know what PCT is and probably cant even spell it. im 18, and just did a cycle. i had been training for a year and 1/2, and did so much research it was unreal. i added 20 pounds and ive been off for almost 2 months and have kept 10-15 pounds of it. my nuts are back to normal (thank you clomid) and ppl still think im juicing because i kept a decent amount of my gains.

dont regret anything you do because at one point and time, you wanted to do it.
 
athlete0185 said:
because your friends are idiots and dont know what PCT is and probably cant even spell it. im 18, and just did a cycle. i had been training for a year and 1/2, and did so much research it was unreal. i added 20 pounds and ive been off for almost 2 months and have kept 10-15 pounds of it. my nuts are back to normal (thank you clomid) and ppl still think im juicing because i kept a decent amount of my gains.

dont regret anything you do because at one point and time, you wanted to do it.
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What are you going to do when you stop growing with as? hgh ?Insulin?

Come on man, youre 18, why the fuck are you juicing now? You have trained for a year and 1/2, that is nothing...

But you are right, my friends are idiots... i know. Some of them REALLY dont know what pct is, I had to introduce them to clomid after they had did their 3. cycle...
 
athlete0185 said:
because your friends are idiots and dont know what PCT is and probably cant even spell it. im 18, and just did a cycle. i had been training for a year and 1/2, and did so much research it was unreal. i added 20 pounds and ive been off for almost 2 months and have kept 10-15 pounds of it. my nuts are back to normal (thank you clomid) and ppl still think im juicing because i kept a decent amount of my gains.

dont regret anything you do because at one point and time, you wanted to do it.
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You're right on man. I can tell you are pretty damn smart for only 18. your logic is pure brilliance. I predict you will live a long and prosperous life. I say let good old Darwin take care of this guy. Keep juicing bro, I'll keep my fingers crossed that you don't reproduce.
 
hey midsaede,

Did you get any pain in your legs? Was the lower back thing in your tail bone area?
 
I don't know one person that has tried juice that has totally stopped. Im sure there are many, but not many I know...good luck to you
 
GoldenDelicious said:
ok so at 150lbs post cycle you gained 4.4lbs and went from 15-16% to 10-11%

ie a 145.6lb 15%bf person to a 150lb 10%bf person, meaning you really put on something a little over 10lbs and dropped 7 or so lbs fat.
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this is not a bad first cycle, its not a great one. though its true that you probably would have been better off waiting. particularly if you had not built a "base".

if you are a "hard gainer" some might consider that a good cycle.
 
Davs said:
hey midsaede,

Did you get any pain in your legs? Was the lower back thing in your tail bone area?
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No it was just in the lower back muscles.

But the first shot of testo in my leg hurt like hell. Couldnt walk for 3 days!
 
You gained 2kg? Tell me that is a typo. Do you have any fucking clue what diet and training mean? Fuck, I doubt it was eve real gear. You sir are tool of the day.
 
tokebloke a guy i know (former national level competitor) only goes up by 2-3 kilos when he goes on cycle. he drops about 8 kilos of fat on average though (chatting to him today about it actually...he has some interesting cycle ideas...can anyone say 'pincushion' ;) )
 
tokebloke said:
You gained 2kg? Tell me that is a typo. Do you have any fucking clue what diet and training mean? Fuck, I doubt it was eve real gear. You sir are tool of the day.
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such criticisms are not necessary and incorrect (at least numerically)

2kg muscle gain
3-4kg Fat loss
net gain of 5-6kg

though training and diet may be a factor (perhaps a very big one)
it could very well be that he is not genetically as lucky as others.

there just are not enough facts laid out to make that assertion. JMO
 
You say your diet was good but still have`nt posted it. You were 150 pounds and 15% bf....
 
gonelifting said:
You say your diet was good but still have`nt posted it. You were 150 pounds and 15% bf....
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+ how tall?

though agree with the implication that the pre-cycle stats dont particularly look "gear ready".... but stats are often not as telling as they seem to be..
 
I didn't read the thread, just his post. My reply was a little uncalled for, but not much. Are we forgetting he weighs 150lbs? That is smaller then some normal sized woman. At that weight, assuming your not a midget your body has a lot of room for growth. To gain, what has been pointed out as 6kg is still not that impressive for a guy like you, not impressive at all.

As for your comment Goldendelicious. The guy is a national level competitor, his body is already maxed out, he is probably defying what mother nature intented everytime he gains a pound. I wouldn't consider comparing him to this guy any better then comparing apples to motor oil.
 
tokebloke said:
You gained 2kg? Tell me that is a typo. Do you have any fucking clue what diet and training mean? Fuck, I doubt it was eve real gear. You sir are tool of the day.
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He was cutting.

Read the thread before you decide to shoot off your mouth.
 
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