Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below every time i incorporate test in my cycle i get terrible acne on my face so i refuse to use anymore. i just wanted to say that test is not an option(even though i have a bunch) before i ask my question. i have some primobolan. 2 10ml bottles at 100mg/ml. i know that isnt a whole lot but is it enough run with something else like a deca tbol cycle or would it just be a waste?
i cant take test
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The short answer is; anything will work.
vicvic1 said:
Well even if you were to shoot only 200mgs ew of the primo you would only last 10 weeks with it. You should run primo for at least 12 weeks to get its full effect and mabye at a higher dose of say 300-400mgs EW for 12 weeks. So i dont think you have enough i would wait and get some more. Run some dbol at the front of that cycle and i heard you would get some nice gains from that cycle.
Mavafanculo
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before you dismiss test because of acne,
try low dose with
1) panthotenic acid (vitamin b-5) - work up to 1,500 mg 3 or 4 times a day. this will keep the oiliness WAY down and may prevent a flareup.
2) retin-a creame (script or overseas pharm -- 2nd time reccomended today lol) - its a powerful topical vitamin A derivative - similar to accutane but much safer -
many people find either or both of the above makeit possible to run test and dbol without acne problems
try low dose with
1) panthotenic acid (vitamin b-5) - work up to 1,500 mg 3 or 4 times a day. this will keep the oiliness WAY down and may prevent a flareup.
2) retin-a creame (script or overseas pharm -- 2nd time reccomended today lol) - its a powerful topical vitamin A derivative - similar to accutane but much safer -
many people find either or both of the above makeit possible to run test and dbol without acne problems
Mavafanculo
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vicvic1 said:
1) re b-5, how high did you go with dose?
2) did your skin get oily prior to the breakout
3) did you try retin-a?
Mavafanculo said:
if i remember right i was tking like 20 500 mg b5s over the coarse of the day. the acne seemed to have come from nowhere. no oily skin until it was too late. i used a facial wash the entire cycle. i have never tried retin-a. i cant have a breakout again like that as i was being questioned at work about it
Mavafanculo
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vicvic1 said:
but oily skin accompanied the breakout? if it did, I'll have to check but you may just need to go highr with the b-5 (but let me check that first, or if anyone knows the upper limits chime in)
also, you may benefit from doctor supervised accutane treatment if you intend to make BB a lifestyle. having to stick to drugs that will not increase sebacious (sp?) gland activity is gonna hamstring you. the accutane will semi-permanently shrink the oil glands in your skin.
needtogetaas
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Right. Some things that are out of the norm work great for people. deca alone is not really the best cycle, but if its what your body lets you work with. Then learn all you can about good solid deca cycles and how to run the best ones you can.Nelson Montana said:
Deca can be a hard recovery so I tend not to go past 10 weeks. Its best to run hcg 500iu's ew with it. Running deca and hcg can make for some high progesterone/prolactin levels so running some unleashed along side it is a good start. Keep letro and dostinex on hand to.
My advice: Do the 300 mg of primo a week along with just an extra 100 mgs of test a week. Take Mavas advice. And use rubbing alcohol on your back after showering and gobas of good old clearasil on your face at night. Avoid sugar.
This would give you a nice 2 month cycle. I do not believe it is necessary to do 13 weeks of Primo to see any benefit.
Boost the cycle with some supps -- UNLEASHED/BIG BLAST/VIGOR will help a lot. And EAT! EAT! EAT!
Train like your life depended on it.
You'll grow.
This would give you a nice 2 month cycle. I do not believe it is necessary to do 13 weeks of Primo to see any benefit.
Boost the cycle with some supps -- UNLEASHED/BIG BLAST/VIGOR will help a lot. And EAT! EAT! EAT!
Train like your life depended on it.
You'll grow.
vicvic1 said:
You shouldnt see any kind of bad side with only 100mgs of Test. I know your not going to USE TEST but im just saying though.
ironcheif1984 said:
10 weeks primo will give great results. even at 200mg ew stacked with something else, it's going to produce really nice results in 10 weeks. I don't encourage going over 10 weeks on any cycle for that matter unless you are a hardcore competing BB.
dabuffguy said:
Really. Now you got me want to actually spend some money bro. I thought i would have to spend alot more then i did now that you told me this. Thanks. Im gonna get some fucking Pimo.
needtogetaas
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Yes added with some test it might not be that bad. Alone it would suck.dabuffguy said:
ironcheif1984 said:Really. Now you got me want to actually spend some money bro. I thought i would have to spend alot more then i did now that you told me this. Thanks. Im gonna get some fucking Pimo.
200mg EW is not ideal though. If I were gonna do primo, it would be atleast 300mg. People that use like 600mg+ with test are using too much IMO.
like needto said, 200mg ew primo by itself would blow. I'd go 500mg by itself, but wouldn't run it by itself anyways. but 200mg primo with 250 test and 50mg var/winny is plenty of gear for some very solid lean gains. thats 800mg EW of gear. that's a lot for some people including myself. I grow like a weed on 250mg test and 20mg dbol ed.
vicvic1 said:
Lighten up kid. The point here is that any androgen will have ANDROGENIC side effects. So dball can give acne too, or didn;t you know that? You need some androgen in a cycle to make it effective and to insure libido -- if that matters to you. The guys here are trying to help by suggesting a lower T dose with another compound. They know more than you. Don't snap back and get all pissy, alright?
dabuffguy said:
Yeah, like Nelson said, the following will possibly give you acne:
every single steroid
even the low androgen ones like anavar can give you acne in higher doses. tbol gave me acne even, and the adrogenic rating in tbol is very low.
i understand that . people react differently to different drugs. im saying test does not work for me. im not trying to argue. im sure people on here know more than me. thats why i post on here. i said i cant take test. so i cant take test even in low dosages.
i know im not the only person on here who doesnt like to use test in theyre cycles. my first cycle was just test. i got good results with bad acne . i laid off test for about 10 years before i tried it again. i got good results with other drugs. i tried test again in my last 3 cycles with the same horrible acne. i have come to the conclusion that i have to stay away from it. i didnt mean to yell at anyone but i cant use it.
vicvic1 said:
Orals work, just can run them for as long. that's the only difference really. Or, run EQ, dbol, proviron and HCG. But still, even though you get bad acne on test, 100mg is about how much your body has in it naturally anyway so keeping a low dose test in there to match what your body already has would most likely not show any signs of increased acne. That's what they are trying to say I think.
dabuffguy said:
i understand and appreciate all your replies. i wasnt trying to yell but i had to make that clear. one cycle with test added was 250mg per week and i still got acne pretty bad. i dont think its worth the trouble for me as i have done well with other drugs in the past . i like to be able to pick the brains of members. i didnt mean to shout . im sorry if it seemed like it was directed at you. so the answer to my original question is even when stacked with other drugs i still need more primobolan?
sugashane
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Try the Primobolan like they said and since Dbol doesn't affect you badly, why not use it as a kick-starter for a few weeks? Its a common stack that should provide some solid results. Probably need to keep the dosage lower with ther Dbol because of your sensitivity to probably most high androgenic compounds.
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