Temps is definitely up there....i have not been anywhere else where EVERYBODY is dancing...if anybody knows another place like that, i haven't been there yet and want to go.....but Surf was the most amazing place i have ever been too....i only went one time, labor day weekend....i was blown away...me and my girlfriend are still trying to top that experience.....i too can't stand the asian invasions, and now the fanny tarzans have taken over another favorite stomping ground...Exit