i am thinking most var these days is dbol

[Vascular Freak]

i dropped tren ace from my cycle and replaced it with 50mg var....tren dosage was at 80mg ed....since i started the var my strength has gone through the roof and i have a little moon face....my var is from a great source BUT i think the powder manufacturers overseas are mixing var with dbol...no way would var give this much power to my workouts....i went from 405 for 4 reps last week on squats to 405 for 8-9 reps today like butter....no belt nothing...and flat bench went up 30 lbs for equivalent reps...

i have never used dbol before....i am a little bloated even while using letro so i think my var is part dbol....what are the chances?

 

[Mac173]

In that case who needs var?

 

[todoveritas]

A major use of Anavar is to build strength without mass. It is a fantastic power-builder so I wouldn't doubt your strength gains would be from it. Not at 50 mg a day (which is a pretty healthy dose).

 

[Vascular Freak]

In that case who needs Anavar - oxandrolone - ?

i am not a big fan myself....it gives me more noticeable sides than harsher more effective drugs...kidney ache, cramps, headaches, lower back pump like mad.......

i am using prop/mast/var/and 25mg winstrol for prog reduction.....i think after this i am done with var...its overated...unlike tren and primo...those are now my favs

 

[Mac173]

i am not a big fan myself....it gives me more noticeable sides than harsher more effective drugs...kidney ache, cramps, headaches, lower back pump like mad.......

i am using testosterone propionate/mast/Anavar - oxandrolone - /and 25mg winstrol for prog reduction.....i think after this i am done with Anavar - oxandrolone - ...its overated...unlike trenbolone and Primobolan - methenolone - ...those are now my favs

Ya I know, I was just saying considering how your lifts have improved.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Many UG labs have two drugs -- test and dbol. And sell them under every drug name there is.

Var does increase strength but it does not cause water retention so it's likely you have something else.

Personally I always liked dbol over var anyway.

 

[Mrpumped]

Could be the impurities in the Var making it something else. Most Var today is coming from China so who knows what they're mixing it with in order to cut cost.

 

[Vascular Freak]

even back when satch was selling gtp var i was getting puffy nips from 50mg var....that was prob anadrol lol

 

[funkyfresh]

This really bothers me.

I want to try Anavar as a first cycle...but I've heard it is very difficult to source legit Var these days. I don't want to end up taking dianabol or anadrol instead.

I heard British Dragon var is very good, but there are even counterfiets of them now since they stop production last year.

Huangshi Var is said to be one of the better brands from China.

I think a lot of people think they are taking Var but are actually getting Dianabol or Anadrol...hench the side effects.

There is no way you'd get puffy nipples or gyno from legit Var as it does not aromatize in any dose (so I've read).

 

[Faizakafez]

i personally think anavar is expensive and over rated...and crap.. i wouldnt never run it..

but vascular freak when did u notice the bloating? this morning?

 

[iMoto]

Been on 50mgs/day of Anavar - oxandrolone - for a month, love the stuff! Ending a 18 week testosterone enanthate cycle with it for the last 8 weeks (4 to go). GREAT strength increase, hardness and veins in places I've never seen them before (lower legs/calves). My source (a certain diesel powered farm tool) is known for his Var and it's no BS. Assuming it's available, I'll always include it in my cycles. Great pump too.

 

[blackbird]

What type of var are you taking?
Thanks

 

[gautho]

Been on 50mgs/day of Anavar - oxandrolone - for a month, love the stuff! Ending a 18 week testosterone enanthate cycle with it for the last 8 weeks (4 to go). GREAT strength increase, hardness and veins in places I've never seen them before (lower legs/calves). My source (a certain diesel powered farm tool) is known for his Anavar - oxandrolone - and it's no BS. Assuming it's available, I'll always include it in my cycles. Great pump too.

He's mine also, and its definitely Var, and the absolutely best var.

 

[Mac173]

Been on 50mgs/day of Anavar - oxandrolone - for a month, love the stuff! Ending a 18 week testosterone enanthate cycle with it for the last 8 weeks (4 to go). GREAT strength increase, hardness and veins in places I've never seen them before (lower legs/calves). My source (a certain diesel powered farm tool) is known for his Anavar - oxandrolone - and it's no BS. Assuming it's available, I'll always include it in my cycles. Great pump too.

Very clever, so his are good?

 

[iMoto]

Very clever, so his are good?

HIGHLY recommended.

 

[Selene]

Every person is individualized in how they respond to a certain product and yes there are those that have complained that they have had water retention with anavar even at low doses.

good luck to you

 

[LiquidPhire]

lol I am stumped with the power diesel powertool comment. haha

 

[funkyfresh]

Me too....lol...this is turning into the Da Vinci code now.

 

[Indy]

i dropped trenbolone ace from my cycle and replaced it with 50mg Anavar - oxandrolone - ....trenbolone dosage was at 80mg ed....since i started the Anavar - oxandrolone - my strength has gone through the roof and i have a little moon face....my Anavar - oxandrolone - is from a great source BUT i think the powder manufacturers overseas are mixing Anavar - oxandrolone - with Dianabol - methandrostenolone - ...no way would Anavar - oxandrolone - give this much power to my workouts....i went from 405 for 4 reps last week on squats to 405 for 8-9 reps today like butter....no belt nothing...and flat bench went up 30 lbs for equivalent reps...

i have never used Dianabol - methandrostenolone - before....i am a little bloated even while using Femera - letrozole - so i think my Anavar - oxandrolone - is part Dianabol - methandrostenolone - ....what are the chances?

Agreed, it's much cheaper and you should not get water retention from VAR in the least. that's why I had a huge batch of var custom made after getting the var myself.

 

[needtogetaas]

A major use of Anavar is to build strength without mass. It is a fantastic power-builder so I wouldn't doubt your strength gains would be from it. Not at 50 mg a day (which is a pretty healthy dose).

I was going to say the same...yes Anavar - oxandrolone - will give you huge strength gains and at 80mg ed your gains are right on par as well as the bloat.at 80mg ed yo have to expect some bloat.

 

[Indy]

even back when satch was selling gtp Anavar - oxandrolone - i was getting puffy nips from 50mg Anavar - oxandrolone - ....that was prob anadrol lol

Yes I firmly believe that stuff was not on the up and up, whether he knew or not, another story, but prior to that brand he used to sell var in 5mg pills, green in color, do you remember what brand those were ?? they were the shit, great quality var but the 5mg pills sucked as I was doing 100mg/day, after that I had my own 50mg per cap var made in a large quantity so I never tried the GTP myself, but everyone I talked to seemed to have got bloat or nothing at all from it.

 

[Indy]

I was going to say the same...yes Anavar - oxandrolone - will give you huge strength gains and at 80mg ed your gains are right on par as well as the bloat.at 80mg ed yo have to expect some bloat.

No not true, you can and should expect bloat from anything affected the aramotase enzyme in the liver for conversion, var is not in the least.

 

[needtogetaas]

so is this var of yours pressed or caped my I ask.

 

[Indy]

so is this Anavar - oxandrolone - of yours pressed or caped my I ask.

No capped of course, the manufacturer of the var did nothing more than supply the var, I had another local bro with the machines do the measuring and capping for me, even mixed it with protein and aminos for cap fillers vs. inert ingredients, it's good stuff except you have to get a ton of it in order to get the stuff at all.

 

[needtogetaas]

No capped of course, the manufacturer of the Anavar - oxandrolone - did nothing more than supply the Anavar - oxandrolone - , I had another local bro with the machines do the measuring and capping for me, even mixed it with protein and aminos for cap fillers vs. inert ingredients, it's good stuff except you have to get a ton of it in order to get the stuff at all.

opps I was asking the guy who made the thread...

I think the makers of pressed pills like phenix and others are good to go but the ug's that are just caping pills might not be.

 

[Cauliflower Ear]

i would say if your source is on point...the var is real...but really, you never know unless you get it tested...and who is gonna do that

 

[Indy]

opps I was asking the guy who made the thread...

I think the makers of pressed pills like phenix and others are good to go but the ug's that are just caping pills might not be.

You're right, anyone can buy a capper and fill some caps, that's why the reasoning behind pressed caps is that they are legit due to the press being so costly that an everyday scammer could not afford to buy one and press pills and in the USA they are serialized and tracked by the DEA and I read an article where supposedly a guy in CA bought one from a company closing up in Colorado, and the DEA tracked it via GPS and literally followed the truck via satellite, photo's and all, and arrested the guys that purchased it, for not registering it with the DEA. yet we cannot find bin laden......

 

[needtogetaas]

You're right, anyone can buy a capper and fill some caps, that's why the reasoning behind pressed caps is that they are legit due to the press being so costly that an everyday scammer could not afford to buy one and press pills and in the USA they are serialized and tracked by the DEA and I read an article where supposedly a guy in CA bought one from a company closing up in Colorado, and the DEA tracked it via GPS and literally followed the truck via satellite, photo's and all, and arrested the guys that purchased it, for not registering it with the DEA. yet we cannot find bin laden......

ya thats what I was thinking...pheonix is pressed pills and I can tell there Anavar - oxandrolone - .not many ug out there can press pills like you said.

 

[Vascular Freak]

i would say if your source is on point...the Anavar - oxandrolone - is real...but really, you never know unless you get it tested...and who is gonna do that

well i have no concern that its my sources fault, but rather the powder manufacturers cutting var with other things to make more money in which th esource wouldn't realize unless they tested every batch.