I almost slapped my doctor

[Metasomatized Ijolite]

I'm starting to believe that doctors really DO get paid by pharmaceutical companies. I was having problems falling asleep. She prescribed a drug called Seroquel which is an antipsychotic. It turns out that it doesn't work so well for psychosis so the manufacturer, Astra Zeneca, started marketing it for off label uses, including use as a sleep aid. What they failed to reveal was that their own research showed that this drug causes diabetes in a very high percentage of patients. Some estimates put it as high as 40% of patients become hyperglycemic and gain weight.

I hired a lawyer to sue the drug maker. The lawyer took the case on a contingency basis meaning I don't owe any legal fees unless I get a settlement. If I get a settlement, the lawyer gets 1/3 of it. I told my doctor that I was suing them. Her response was "Shame on you for suing a drug company". She then went on to say that while it's known that seroquel causes diabetes, it's still a great drug for psychotic patients and that it's better to have diabetes than psychosis. Maybe that's true, but I reminded her that all I needed was something to help me fall asleep. Then I said that I could inhale a bowl of marijuana through a vaporizer and it would put me to sleep. How do you think she responded to that?

SHE SAID THAT MARIJUANA WAS ILLEGAL AND DANGEROUS TOO!!!!!!!! WHAT THE FUCK???? THE SHIT SHE PRESCRIBED GAVE ME FUCKING DIABETES, (WHICH IS KNOWN AS THE "SILENT KILLER"), AND SHE'S LECTURING ME THAT WEED IS DANGEROUS!!!!!

I think it's time to get a new doctor. Of course they will probably be the same way.

 

[javaguru]

One of my ex-girlfriends is a Nexium rep...they spend a lot of money on the doctors. Everything from free meals at high end local restaurants combined with drug presentations to sponsoring seminars in Vegas and other vacation spots.

 

[SpyWizard]

I'm starting to believe that doctors really DO get paid by pharmaceutical companies. I was having problems falling asleep. She prescribed a drug called Seroquel which is an antipsychotic. It turns out that it doesn't work so well for psychosis so the manufacturer, Astra Zeneca, started marketing it for off label uses, including use as a sleep aid. What they failed to reveal was that their own research showed that this drug causes diabetes in a very high percentage of patients. Some estimates put it as high as 40% of patients become hyperglycemic and gain weight.

I hired a lawyer to sue the drug maker. The lawyer took the case on a contingency basis meaning I don't owe any legal fees unless I get a settlement. If I get a settlement, the lawyer gets 1/3 of it. I told my doctor that I was suing them. Her response was "Shame on you for suing a drug company". She then went on to say that while it's known that seroquel causes diabetes, it's still a great drug for psychotic patients and that it's better to have diabetes than psychosis. Maybe that's true, but I reminded her that all I needed was something to help me fall asleep. Then I said that I could inhale a bowl of marijuana through a vaporizer and it would put me to sleep. How do you think she responded to that?

SHE SAID THAT MARIJUANA WAS ILLEGAL AND DANGEROUS TOO!!!!!!!! WHAT THE FUCK???? THE SHIT SHE PRESCRIBED GAVE ME FUCKING DIABETES, (WHICH IS KNOWN AS THE "SILENT KILLER"), AND SHE'S LECTURING ME THAT WEED IS DANGEROUS!!!!!

I think it's time to get a new doctor. Of course they will probably be the same way.

wait 6 months and you can get to see a doc in 6 more months, the good news is the gov will legalize mj and you can grow and smoke all you want..

 

[Six8]

My Dr. knows I live alone and im in school so anytime i need meds that he has a sample of he gives me the whole prescription in the form of samples. I think theres a site with doctor reviews you should check it out and dump that whore.

 

[Mr. dB]

Are you diabetic now?

 

[samoth]

You're most likely just another fucking idiot to them. Do you have a degree in medicine or pharmacology? If not, then you're just another moron who thinks he knows everything because he has the internet. This is a very common subset of people. (I'd bet many of them are "self-medicating" rec drug abusers, too, making it all the more entertaining.)

AZ just fucking aquired MedImmune and some other companies for almost $20B. You don't have a fucking chance at legal anything against BIGPHARMA. They know the laws. They have prestigious high-paid lawyers and work with firms like Latham and Skadden.

Have fun coughing up a few million to prove your case and take it to court. Maybe you'll get some of that back when you settle for half that ten years down the road.

 

[miplank]

so you actually have diabetes now?

 

[Inspector]

er response was "Shame on you for suing a drug company".

LOL shame on you for having an issue with another "benevolent" organization.

Prescription drugs are the most dangerous substances around.
But good luck trying to sue them, unless you can get a class action going you have no chance in hell

 

[samoth]

But good luck trying to sue them, unless you can get a class action going you have no chance in hell

Probably TCR, but settlement would more than likely be for mere crumbs. Only people that will come ahead will be the firm handling the case.

 

[Metasomatized Ijolite]

so you actually have diabetes now?

Yes, I have diabetes now. I never had any problems with high blood sugar until I took their poison. As for the person who said I was going to cough up money to sue them, if you read my post again, you will see that the law firm took the case on a contingency basis. That means if I don't get any money, the lawyer doesn't get any money either. It's not a class action suit either. However they are representing multiple clients for the same issue but filing each as a separate case.

My issue is the doctor telling me weed was bad for me after she prescribed me a "legal" drug that gave me diabetes.

 

[nimbus]

lol you're gonna get worked. i wonder how much credibility an admitted druggie has in court

 

[timtim]

Yes, I have diabetes now. I never had any problems with high blood sugar until I took their poison. As for the person who said I was going to cough up money to sue them, if you read my post again, you will see that the law firm took the case on a contingency basis. That means if I don't get any money, the lawyer doesn't get any money either. It's not a class action suit either. However they are representing multiple clients for the same issue but filing each as a separate case.

My issue is the doctor telling me weed was bad for me after she prescribed me a "legal" drug that gave me diabetes.

is that your case? she lectured you on the tweed and youre angry you have the betes now? the drug she gave you isnt legal. its only allowed on your persons via a prescription. having it on your persons without a prescritpion would make it illegal. you have a case if you got the betes from the drug. dont expect to be a millionaire but they will pay you something.

 

[rnch]

i Strongly Suggest that you FIND ANOTHER DOCTOR!

 

[Metasomatized Ijolite]

lol you're gonna get worked. i wonder how much credibility an admitted druggie has in court

Huh? Dude I don't think you understand how this type of litigation plays out. I'm never even going to be a part of the court proceedings. The drug company already has 10,000 people that have filed suit against them over this same drug. The law firm representing me is probably handling at least 2,000 of the plaintiffs. This will likely come down to a settlement offer.

 

[nimbus]

Huh? Dude I don't think you understand how this type of litigation plays out. I'm never even going to be a part of the court proceedings. The drug company already has 10,000 people that have filed suit against them over this same drug. The law firm representing me is probably handling at least 2,000 of the plaintiffs. This will likely come down to a settlement offer.

hmm yea it seems i don't understand how it plays out at all.

isn't it more the doctor's fault for prescribing you the med for that purpose, than the drug company's? Because diabetes is a lot better than psychosis imho, so it seems like the drug company didnt really do anything wrong.

anyway please let us know how it goes i am pretty interested

 

[nangiggles]

Usually medication comes with a little insert that says use, precautions, storage, dosis, interactions and side effects, is diabetes listed as a side effect?

 

[Bikini Mod]

I was perscribed Seroquel, in very low doses but only took it for a short time. That was back in May/June 2006. Matter of fact you will be able to find me posting about it. I had NO IDEA that this agent caused diabetes. I mean... NONE.

WTF?

Thank goodness I stopped taking both the seroquel and the anti-depressant shortly after I started to feel better. I still need sleep aides to this day and I REALLY DID need both a sleep aid and anti-depressant back then but I am happy that I decided personally when I was *done* with them and didn't rely on the nurse practisioner/shrink's advice to decide.

Now 3 years later I still need the sleep aid but haven't taken any anti-depressants. I've found through research and personal experience that supplementing my diet with EFA's had GREATLY affected my depression in a very positive fashion, have practically ELIMINATED IT.

Sorry you got diabetes, that shit is nasty. Hope you will get some sort of justice as no amount of money will take the diabetes away.

 

[Mr. dB]

Huh? Dude I don't think you understand how this type of litigation plays out. I'm never even going to be a part of the court proceedings. The drug company already has 10,000 people that have filed suit against them over this same drug. The law firm representing me is probably handling at least 2,000 of the plaintiffs. This will likely come down to a settlement offer.

Perhaps if you had mentioned in the first post that you were part of a class action...

 

[nangiggles]

I was perscribed Seroquel, in very low doses but only took it for a short time. That was back in May/June 2006. Matter of fact you will be able to find me posting about it. I had NO IDEA that this agent caused diabetes. I mean... NONE.

WTF?

Thank goodness I stopped taking both the seroquel and the anti-depressant shortly after I started to feel better. I still need sleep aides to this day and I REALLY DID need both a sleep aid and anti-depressant back then but I am happy that I decided personally when I was *done* with them and didn't rely on the nurse practisioner/shrink's advice to decide.

Now 3 years later I still need the sleep aid but haven't taken any anti-depressants. I've found through research and personal experience that supplementing my diet with EFA's had GREATLY affected my depression in a very positive fashion, have practically ELIMINATED IT.

Sorry you got diabetes, that shit is nasty. Hope you will get some sort of justice as no amount of money will take the diabetes away.

I'm always a bit on the paranoid side, whenever a Dr gives me something i ALWAYS google it before taking it.... I do this because when I was 12 I has some breathing problems, went to hospital and got some pills, I immediately became violently ill, my bro is a dentist so he has one of those books where you can check on medication (use, etc) and I saw the pill was for patients over 15 yrs of age, I immediately stopped taking it but was too late and I ended up in the ER with a severe gastro-enteritis (not sure spelling, too tired to google it ) ever since I always research... there's a reason why medication comercials are so pretty and soothing but at the end they blurt out rapidly all the side effetcs...

 

[myway]

I'm starting to believe that doctors really DO get paid by pharmaceutical companies. I was having problems falling asleep. She prescribed a drug called Seroquel which is an antipsychotic. It turns out that it doesn't work so well for psychosis so the manufacturer, Astra Zeneca, started marketing it for off label uses, including use as a sleep aid. What they failed to reveal was that their own research showed that this drug causes diabetes in a very high percentage of patients. Some estimates put it as high as 40% of patients become hyperglycemic and gain weight.

I hired a lawyer to sue the drug maker. The lawyer took the case on a contingency basis meaning I don't owe any legal fees unless I get a settlement. If I get a settlement, the lawyer gets 1/3 of it. I told my doctor that I was suing them. Her response was "Shame on you for suing a drug company". She then went on to say that while it's known that seroquel causes diabetes, it's still a great drug for psychotic patients and that it's better to have diabetes than psychosis. Maybe that's true, but I reminded her that all I needed was something to help me fall asleep. Then I said that I could inhale a bowl of marijuana through a vaporizer and it would put me to sleep. How do you think she responded to that?

SHE SAID THAT MARIJUANA WAS ILLEGAL AND DANGEROUS TOO!!!!!!!! WHAT THE FUCK???? THE SHIT SHE PRESCRIBED GAVE ME FUCKING DIABETES, (WHICH IS KNOWN AS THE "SILENT KILLER"), AND SHE'S LECTURING ME THAT WEED IS DANGEROUS!!!!!

I think it's time to get a new doctor. Of course they will probably be the same way.

Hmmmmm.... odd.
If you aren't leaving out any important details, yea, thats jacked up.
But I have a hard time wrapping my mind around a doctor actually doing this.
Was this the first thing you had been given as a sleep aid? Your doc didn't try ambien, lunesta or any other NORMAL sleep medication prior to giving you the Seroquel?
Plus, I think we would need to maybe know a little more about your psych hx to understand the doctor's reasoning for giving you Seroquel.
Since most people aren't usually SUPER EXCITED to post such information on a forum, I don't think there is a way for us to have enough of the picture to be objective.
But yea. If you have no other psych history and this is the first and only medication ever given to you for sleep, yea, not cool.

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

I'm starting to believe that doctors really DO get paid by pharmaceutical companies. I was having problems falling asleep. She prescribed a drug called Seroquel which is an antipsychotic. It turns out that it doesn't work so well for psychosis so the manufacturer, Astra Zeneca, started marketing it for off label uses, including use as a sleep aid. What they failed to reveal was that their own research showed that this drug causes diabetes in a very high percentage of patients. Some estimates put it as high as 40% of patients become hyperglycemic and gain weight.

I hired a lawyer to sue the drug maker. The lawyer took the case on a contingency basis meaning I don't owe any legal fees unless I get a settlement. If I get a settlement, the lawyer gets 1/3 of it. I told my doctor that I was suing them. Her response was "Shame on you for suing a drug company". She then went on to say that while it's known that seroquel causes diabetes, it's still a great drug for psychotic patients and that it's better to have diabetes than psychosis. Maybe that's true, but I reminded her that all I needed was something to help me fall asleep. Then I said that I could inhale a bowl of marijuana through a vaporizer and it would put me to sleep. How do you think she responded to that?

SHE SAID THAT MARIJUANA WAS ILLEGAL AND DANGEROUS TOO!!!!!!!! WHAT THE FUCK???? THE SHIT SHE PRESCRIBED GAVE ME FUCKING DIABETES, (WHICH IS KNOWN AS THE "SILENT KILLER"), AND SHE'S LECTURING ME THAT WEED IS DANGEROUS!!!!!

I think it's time to get a new doctor. Of course they will probably be the same way.

Sounds like that cunt shouldn't be a doctor. I hate brainwashed idiots like that.

 

[Metasomatized Ijolite]

hmm yea it seems i don't understand how it plays out at all.

isn't it more the doctor's fault for prescribing you the med for that purpose, than the drug company's? Because diabetes is a lot better than psychosis imho, so it seems like the drug company didnt really do anything wrong.

anyway please let us know how it goes i am pretty interested

Actually it might not be the doctor's fault at the time. One of the basis behind this lawsuit is that Astra Zeneca FAILED TO REPORT this side effect even though their own studies showed there to be a high incidence of diabetes and weight gain among patients. That means when their drug reps visited doctors to "educate" them about their drug, there was no mention of this potential side effect. Also, the flyers that the pharmacy gives you didn't mention it. In fact even now after word is out, the last time I had this filled I read the warnings and it STILL did not list diabetes as a side effect! The only mention of diabetes was that it said not to take it if you HAVE diabetes. Well, I didn't have it when I started taking their drug.

There are also other factors involved such as the fact that when sales were slow, they send their sales reps around and started suggesting "off label" uses for it. This is how it ended up being prescribed as a sleep aid. It is very effective as a sleep aid. That shit used to put me in a coma for 15 hours.

The way I look at it is that I have a large law firm taking the case on a contingency basis meaning if they don't win me some money, the lawyers don't get any money either. No law firm is going to touch a case on those conditions unless they feel that the chances of winning are very high. Obviously I have no idea how this is all going to turn out but I would obviously prefer to have no diabetes.

This thread wasn't really about the lawsuit. I was pointing out the irony that the doctor prescribes pills that cause a dangerous disease like diabetes but then lectures me that marijuana is dangerous and illegal. Compared to Seroquel, weed is absolutely harmless!

 

[PICK3]

I still need the sleep aid

What sleep aid