HS athletes and supplements

[cityhick]

Its not america. Its the parents that let their kids play video games all day. Eat Mc Ds and BK 3 times a day. And never even try to get them envolved with sports. Thier work ethic therfore sucks. haha... Canadian guys in windsor... they do like to talk a lot of shit about america...and thats not something I like to hear. I think its how you were brought up and your natrual agression/demeanor that makes you a good fighter. Not where you are from. I aint the biggest but I will never back down.

 

[boxerjake]

Canadian guys in windsor... they do like to talk a lot of shit about america...and thats not something I like to hear. I think its how you were brought up and your natrual agression/demeanor that makes you a good fighter.


I've never been to windsor but i would equate it to the mentality of any large city ..

Lucky for me i live out west where the air is clean and you can drive 3 hours without hitting a tim hortons or mcdonalds ... my kids play outside without supervision ... my keys stay in the ignition of my vehicles and i don't lock my doors at night , my kids don't watch " network television " and i take an intrest in there lives .

Not everyplace on this planet looks like a MTV video shot in the getto of L.A late at night .. i'm fortunate enough to live in a place where community spirit is more then just a word and when someone stops and asks " how are you doing " they actually want to stick around and hear your answer .

I for one have nothing against the USA or it's people .. but i do beleive the good ones need to work ten times as hard to show through considering your massive population and the over sensationalism bread into the media pertaining to anything negative .


As for being a good scrapper .... For the most part good fighters are no different then most elite athletes , there born with it . I fought amatuer and semi pro for 10 years and some of the guys i went against made it seem effortless compared to the energy i was expending trying to break down there defences ...

Just like some guys are born with the genetics for bodybuilding and some of us can tread water in the gym for a lifetime and never see much change .. it's almost a birthright

 

[cityhick]

Well siad my friends. Although I do live in detroit My heart lives in the woods. Thats what makes michigan a great state. From Where I live i can drive 15 min east and be at St. Clair and have some of the best ice fishing/fresh water fishing in the world. Every 2 miles there is some type of open water. I can drive south and be in Canada/downtown and party in the city with a lot of people. And I can drive 45 min north and be somewhat rural. And of course always go up to Manistee for REAL rural.

Thinkin about getting into boxing then MMA..... i have been watching the shit sense I was like 8 and always dreamed of kicking some ass in front of a crowd... must be a rush. Kinda like wrestling 1 on 1 and its all bout you. And yes I have seen some scroney lanky and fat guys that make me look like a bitch on the mat. Dont know how...just did.

 

[boxerjake]

A little secret i learned years ago was the guys who were super super competitive were often the ones who moved away from team sports and into something like weightlifting bodybuilding or a martial art ( including boxing ) because they could'nt stand being let down by a team considering there own effort was always 100% and most often above the crowd .

Gives you somewhat of an insight into the mind of a bodybuilder and why they choose the sport they do

 

[not quite ripe]

dear all- im a junior in HS. play ftbl. my coaches did roids when they were in HS. i can see the long term sides in them;-height mostly. they know that some of us juice,(sust and winn mostly) they pretend they dont know. never talk to us; or give advice. we simply dont bring the subject to attention. to get the stuff you have to prove your worth to the team. you have to be a hard ass, demand; from others and yourself. we know the contract we signed when we decide to shoot. we tell each other when to lay off. our brotherhood keeps us in check. i did my research before i decided, thought long and hard on the morality. i chose to because it is worth it- i set a goal. some ppl i know are constantly competing. i compete with myself, i dont care if KGKUHYU is bigger or stronger. i train for ME and for MY TEAM. i see the pot heads and the weasers in my school and know that i am better them them. they call us gearheads; we make a reality. they simply try to escape reality.

dont be satisfied with your best

 

[mrp3652]

they call us gearheads; we make a reality. they simply try to escape reality.
dont be satisfied with your best

not quite ripe:
First off all of your team is WAY TOO YOUNG to be using steroids. At that age you have high test levels already, making no need for them, much less I'm willing to bet your diet isn't in check and you don't have a really good base. All of you have now potentially damaged your possible football careers by stunting your growth, it can continue into your early 20's(take the florida basketball player Noah, a sophomore in college, who it's stated has grow I think they said at least 2 more inches, and he was already at least 6'4 when that spur hit), which is important in football.
The coaches that turn their heads are probably just idiotic about this but the legal issues also come up when a coach talks to a student about roids, still should find a way to stop the whole thing.
You guys need to not look out for just someone overdoing it, you need to stop each other from using steroids at all until you have come much closer to your natural limits.

 

[big49ersfan]

mrp i not condoning th euse of roids in kids at all but tbh if a junior or senior (im tkaing they are the last 2 years of highschool im british so we have different terms for years) has the chance to make a D1 school with a scholarship then at the end he has to make a decsion edn of a very very tuff just saying no dont take will hinder there cahnced of making it.

we need more poepl who juiced earlry to come out say so and say the problems or not problems they have now. cos as mentioned height is about the only problem that i know of of using gear to ealry that and controlling aggression. all other side as far as i am awarte and correct me if i am wrong are the same as with adult users.

 

[mrp3652]

mrp i not condoning th euse of roids in kids at all but tbh if a junior or senior (im tkaing they are the last 2 years of highschool im british so we have different terms for years) has the chance to make a D1 school with a scholarship then at the end he has to make a decsion edn of a very very tuff just saying no dont take will hinder there cahnced of making it.

we need more poepl who juiced earlry to come out say so and say the problems or not problems they have now. cos as mentioned height is about the only problem that i know of of using gear to ealry that and controlling aggression. all other side as far as i am awarte and correct me if i am wrong are the same as with adult users.

Good points but people should not take steroids before their bodies and minds are ready for them. With an excellent base built by a perfect diet/workout routine over a period of time your body is better prepared to adapt to the additional mass and strength and more likely to maintain these gains through PCT and more hitting it hard in the gym while eating perfect.

High school kids have enough test and gh running in them that if used correctly with that diet/workout routine they can gain cycle-like gains naturally. This takes time though, which high schoolers don't like hearing, so they start out on insufficient bases which can't support the gains(gains not as good as compiled with the diet/workout) and thus become another step behind those who took the time to build their base.

When it comes down to football, they can make enough natural gains while building their base to at least make it somewhere decent by the time that in required(talent and skill in the game being their for the kid too). After a couple years at the college, the kid with the natty gains due to his base can then consider steroid use to further his already great potential.

Overall it makes more sense and can be done but not by people without the commitment. It's not a little trip, it's a long journey.

 

[BigCracker]

Juicing so young teaches guys to rely on the drugs, not training and diet which will fuck them in the long run. Over my 20+ yrs in the gym I can count on one hand how many guys under the age of 19 that actually knew how to eat and train (sort of)and possessed the discipline to follow through with it.

I know that if I was a teen and I wanted to consume 200 grams of protien a day my parents would've never allowed it because they would've gone broke feeding me. So even if I wanted to do it right I wouldn't have been able to.

Also relying on your bros to keep you in check is like the blind leading the blind. Keep in mind I'm not one of your lard ass coaches still trying to relive his glory days. I'm mid 30's, one of the biggest/strongest guys in my state, and people still ask me if I compete all of the time. So I'm not some washed up, beer bellied , alcoholic, has been telling you to do as I say and not as I do. By using roids at such a young age you're selling your genetic potential short. And if you're using college as an excuse, you might wanna think about this. A college education is great. However it's no guarantee of success in life. 20-30 yrs ago it may have been different, but these days having a BS is nothing special. Sure, you could go to school another 4 yrs and become a Dr or Lawyer, but when you graduate you'll have a monthly student loan payment that rivals a monthly home mortgage in amount. You'll also probably work 60-80 hrs a week at your own practice-leaving little time for dieting/training. If you get married/have kids you'll have even less time. This kind of lifestyle will age you quickly, and once you no longer have your youth you may truly wonder why you chose the path in life that you did-and by then it will be too late to change it. So before you make irreversible decisions about using AAS so young, try to see the big picture. What do you want your day to day life as an adult to be like? If you wanna join the rat race and die of a stress/diet related heart attack at age 45 go for it. Success to me is measured by comfort, health, and happiness, not how much frivolus material shit you have or how much $$$ is in your bank account. Why have all of these nice things if you never have time to enjoy them? It's not like you can take these things with you when you die.

 

[big49ersfan]

fair point

but all im syaing is yes you should as a high school kid wait until the last opportunity to juice hopefully it i snever unboubtble it will eb at some point whetehr after an injury or trying to make an nfl team or get a scholarship the opurtinity will rear its ugly head.

baring this in mind is a 17/18 year old kid has the change to make a scholarship which means they get educated for free and i know how much you yanks poay for education. but he has to put on 20lbs or something then juice is an option he could and probablyw ill consider. we here in these situations need to put preducdice aside i.e. no kids on gear etc and all that and look at the case and actaully trya na dput the safest possible cycle together for him to minisie the damage it may due. this isnt th eideal situaton but nay stretch but tbh nor is not goign to college or missing out a pro-contract cos you are too small or weak.