HRT for low-normal levels?

[lanky]

in general,,, testosterone levels peak around the 18-21 y/o range...my last test which was in late december 2005 was 709 ng/dl . i am as skinny as a rail,,though very strong.when i was 18 years ago i was tested for the first time and it was 858 ng/dl....everyones baseline is different...two years later i was tested again and it was around 620ng/dl...you could have a level of 300ng/dl and be big and muscular..there are so many factors that predict body composition and mood.

 

[ALIN]

474 / 92 are not a bad numbers (even at 27). If I were you I would not opt for TRT unitl its a very last resort.

The could be a little higher but not bad for age.

 

[mikefear]

eow injections are not that uncommon..but yeah, i know 200mg/week is a lot.. and i <3 it.

 

[Maxgain]

eow injections are not that uncommon..but yeah, i know 200mg/week is a lot.. and i <3 it.

eow injections are not umcommon but are due to a lack of education any doc that recommends this over every week injections does not know enough. In truth you should be starting on the gel

 

[Maxgain]

does anyone know of any research that states levels by age range?

Yreah i have a large study somewhere ill post it this evening

 

[slat1]

I'm at 302. I hate it.

 

[Maxgain]

Yreah i have a large study somewhere ill post it this evening

In our healthy male nonobese population 20–40 yr of age (n = 150), the mean of log-transformed early morning T levels was 21.8 nmol/L (627 ng/dL), the mean - 2 SD was 12.5 nmol/L (365 ng/dL), and the mean - 2.5 SD was 11 nmol/L (319 ng/dL). For FT, measured by equilibrium dialysis or calculated from T and SHBG levels (96), the mean was 0.5 nmol/L (14 ng/dL), the mean - 2 SD was 0.26 nMol/L (7.4 ng/dL), and the mean - 2.5 SD was 0.225 nmol/L (6.5 ng/dL). If we take as the lower normal limit and threshold of partial androgen deficiency, a conservative value of 11 nmol/L for T and 0.225 nmol/L for FT, which represent the lower 1% value of healthy young males, then it appears that more than 30% of men over 75 yr old have subnormal (F)T levels

http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/86/6/2380

As you can see a non training population 20-40years the average is 627. That puts his levels out by about 1-1.5 standard deviations. As a 27 year old weight lifter you would expect him to be actaully above this -those closer to 40 below it- so he is not average/normal for his age

 

[JKurz1]

anyone make good gains from 200mg every 10 days or so, against the high 500mg+ amounts....

 

[Maxgain]

thats kind of off the point of this discussion hows that related to the hrt question

 

[mikey007]

We all know that levels of T are very subjective you cant even find one Dr. that agrees with another. You need to go to an anti-aging specialist that knows and studies hormones and just doesnt go by what the books say. Once you start on some you will know in a couple weeks if that was your problem or not. But you should be monitered by a Dr. that indorses this type of therapy.