HRT enan and sus cycle

[misticat]

This was my dr's recommendations for my HRT

can anyone offer any suggestions or mods if need be???
thanks

monday: Enanthate 200mg
friday: sus 250mg

1ml of each
450mg/ml per week total

i am on primo/winny/anavar
dr told me to drop the primo and lower the dosage for the winny and ox
i am lowering my dosasge for winny and anavar from 80mg of each to 20mg ed (of each).

nolvadex throughout to keep the bloat down (if needed). He said it was going to be minimal with this stack anyways.

pct
1cc every other day of hcg, a total of 10cc's
nolvadex/clomid

 

[DiamondCutCows]

that's weird to me....did he say why he wanted to mix Test compounds? I would just think Sust Mon/Thur or something of the sort...I'm not big on HRT so maybe I'm not aware of a reason for this

 

[misticat]

not sure i can find out from him though

 

[njmuscleguy]

This was my dr's recommendations for my HRT

can anyone offer any suggestions or mods if need be???
thanks

monday: Enanthate 200mg
friday: sus 250mg

1ml of each
450mg/ml per week total

i am on primo/winny/anavar
dr told me to drop the primo and lower the dosage for the winny and ox
i am lowering my dosasge for winny and anavar from 80mg of each to 20mg ed (of each).

nolvadex throughout to keep the bloat down (if needed). He said it was going to be minimal with this stack anyways.

pct
1cc every other day of hcg, a total of 10cc's
nolvadex/clomid

I see all kinds of weird things going on here... first of all, 400+mg/wk of test is more than just HRT.... typical HRT regimens are 200-250mg/wk. Strange that he would prescribe enth *and* sust?

And why would the doctor approve of you using winny and var as part of HRT? What kind of doctor is he by the way? Endo? General practitioner?

Test at that dosage can give some people a decent amount of bloat.... nolvadex is not the best anti-e to keep bloat down....

And where did you get that PCT from? That's alot of HCG.. in fact, many HRT'ers never even use HCG.... and if you're on HRT, assuming it's for life, why the need for PCT (meaning nolvadex and clomid?) How old are you?

 

[misticat]

ahhh.... thats the thing... first off i am only 26. My current cycle has suppressed my test soooo much that i qualify for this program! it is 54!

I am actually not sure if he is a dr... i searched for hrt on google and foond a place where i live. pm'd you the link.

send me some paperwork, told me to get a blood test and a physical and fax it to him... everything was cool and now he put me in the 10 week test program and advised me to reduce my current cycle.. it was rather expensive too compared to what i can get online! I am a private patient to the clinic.

 

[njmuscleguy]

whoah.... dude, take a few steps back here... cycles will suppress you....alot.... it's supposed to happen...and then you're supposed to do a proper PCT, for as long and as aggressive as need be.... did you attempt a PCT after your current cycle? what did it consist of? If it failed, you should've tried a second PCT....Unless you know for a fact that your natural test levels have always been below normal, then that's a different story....that's why everyone should do baseline bloodwork before any cycle.... If you go on HRT, with dosages that high, you will suppress your natural test levels permanently....you're WAY too young for that.... if I were you, I'd stop the HRT, cut your losses, do a proper PCT....then get bloodwork again to see where you're at.... just my humble opinion...you may want to get some other opinions

 

[misticat]

Hmmm..... anyone else on this?

I know my current cycle supresses my test thats how i got into getting "legal" test... right? (through hrt clinic)

im not using it as hrt... im doing a 10 week cycle... but getting away with it legally by calling it hrt. sorry for the confusion...

i have not done a pct on my current cycle... i have 2 more weeks... till i hit the clomid....
the guy said i can do a 10 week 450 / week test cycle and drop the primo and reduce my ox and winny dosage to 20mg each ed... with out any problems.
does that not seem right? thoughts anyone????
did you see the link i sent you?

 

[GetBig10]

ahhh.... thats the thing... first off i am only 26. My current cycle has suppressed my test soooo much that i qualify for this program! it is 54!

I am actually not sure if he is a dr... i searched for hrt on google and foond a place where i live. pm'd you the link.

send me some paperwork, told me to get a blood test and a physical and fax it to him... everything was cool and now he put me in the 10 week test program and advised me to reduce my current cycle.. it was rather expensive too compared to what i can get online! I am a private patient to the clinic.

can it be a scammer some how?

 

[GetBig10]

whoah.... dude, take a few steps back here... cycles will suppress you....alot.... it's supposed to happen...and then you're supposed to do a proper PCT, for as long and as aggressive as need be.... did you attempt a PCT after your current cycle? what did it consist of? If it failed, you should've tried a second PCT....Unless you know for a fact that your natural test levels have always been below normal, then that's a different story....that's why everyone should do baseline bloodwork before any cycle.... If you go on HRT, with dosages that high, you will suppress your natural test levels permanently....you're WAY too young for that.... if I were you, I'd stop the HRT, cut your losses, do a proper PCT....then get bloodwork again to see where you're at.... just my humble opinion...you may want to get some other opinions

i agree with you...you gotta do the PCT bro

 

[misticat]

can it be a scammer some how?

impossible its a clinic.... i got perscriptions for the test..


so what you guys are saying is finish off my current cycle do the pct wait another 10 weeks for time off then start the test cycle???

 

[njmuscleguy]

I know my current cycle supresses my test thats how i got into getting "legal" test... right? (through hrt clinic)

im not using it as hrt... im doing a 10 week cycle... but getting away with it legally by calling it hrt. sorry for the confusion...

i have not done a pct on my current cycle... i have 2 more weeks... till i hit the clomid....
the guy said i can do a 10 week 450 / week test cycle and drop the primo and reduce my ox and winny dosage to 20mg each ed... with out any problems.
does that not seem right? thoughts anyone????
did you see the link i sent you?

Ok, you've got us all kinds of confused here.... in one of your previous posts, you said that your current cycle suppressed you so much that you saught out this doctor (clinic) because they deemed you qualified for HRT... this doctor then prescribed you essentially a full-fledged AAS cycle, NOT HRT... not sure why he would've done that in the first place....but you also admitted that you're not using the clinic's stuff as HRT... legitimate HRT clinics shouldn't be prescribing enough AAS to do a full cycle, but then again, I'm not that familiar with these clinics...

But from what I'm understanding so far....if you're not using that stuff for HRT, then why did you bother going to a clinic in the first place? There are much easier and much less expensive ways to go about that.... plus, if you had finished a cycle and thought your natural levels were suppressed, you should've done a proper PCT...simple as that....

 

[misticat]

im not sure why you are so confused. You sound like a very negative person njmuscleguy.. I will answer all of your questions and hopefully you will see why i did what i did and want to add test.

Ok, you've got us all kinds of confused here.... in one of your previous posts, you said that your current cycle suppressed you so much that you saught out this doctor (clinic) because they deemed you qualified for HRT...

I went to the dr on purpose cause my test was low, so low i was able to qualify for my "LEGAL" cycle.

this doctor then prescribed you essentially a full-fledged AAS cycle, NOT HRT... not sure why he would've done that in the first place....but you also admitted that you're not using the clinic's stuff as HRT...

and your point is???

legitimate HRT clinics shouldn't be prescribing enough AAS to do a full cycle, but then again, I'm not that familiar with these clinics...

then why are talking about it? i had a simple question, and you keep trying to tell me about HRT

But from what I'm understanding so far....if you're not using that stuff for HRT, then why did you bother going to a clinic in the first place? There are much easier and much less expensive ways to go about that....

to get legal test DUH!
what over the internet from some guy in greece... no thanks i did that and i think its fake... rather pay the extra bucks for LEGIT and NOW LEGAL TEST

plus, if you had finished a cycle and thought your natural levels were suppressed, you should've done a proper PCT...simple as that....

im not done with my cycle yet... I JUST WANT TO ADD TEST

you are so focused on details right now and telling me other ways ... all i asked was "can i add test to my current cycle".....

 

[mattrich]

personally i think this so called doctor is just using you as a guinney pig to try out his own idea of a ""cycle""

 

[misticat]

haha... great dont tell me that.
he told me that winny and ox and primo is a joke of a cycle. he said in 4 weeks i promise you will be able to tell

 

[mattrich]

monday: Enanthate 200mg
friday: sus 250mg
im not done with my cycle yet... I JUST WANT TO ADD TEST

you are so focused on details right now and telling me other ways ... all i asked was "can i add test to my current cycle".....





?????wtf???

 

[misticat]

my bad i was frustrated with njmuscleguy....
i was just trying to get more opinions other than my dr's. njm was just telling me what hrt is and how they wouldnt give me an aas cycle... blah blah... well i do have it and it has my name on the side of the vile and in amber pill cases (since test is light sensative)
i can take it on the plane for christmas since it is perscribed to me..

i just shot my ass with 200mg of enan.
i couldnt wait till monday so i have to do friday/tuesday injections

oh i have HCG instructions too on the chorionic gonadotropin box it says for IM use only.... and in the HCG instructions from the clinic it says sub-q injections...
?? does that seem right?
simple instructions.... open 3ml syringe and dray 6ml of air out of chorionic gonadotropin(green top vial).

then take 3ml syringe and draw 10ml of bacteriostatic water and inject all 10ml of bacteriostatic water into the chorionic gonadotropin(gren top vial)
then gently agitate mixure until dissolved DO NOT SHAKE refrigerate once reconstituted
inject 1cc every other day sub-q until gone (10 injections)

this is to be done at the end of your cycle

 

[njmuscleguy]

Dude, you need to calm down there.... I've re-read the entire thread and nowhere do you ask DIRECTLY, in a clear manner, if you should add test to your current cycle.... you started off the thread by saying your test was low, you went to an HRT doctor and he prescribed you an HRT regimen.... then later you said you were still on-cycle and the test this doctor gave you wasn't an HRT program after all....eventually, you're telling us that you went to him for a (legal) full-blown cycle....that's great, that's your perrogative....but you've been all over the place with your posts.... so I was just trying to figure out what was going on so I could offer any help....

I'm not a 2-week newbie man.... I've been here for a while now, have had more than a few years of experience....still learning, but not a clueless fuck... don't be FRUSTRATED with someone trying to help you when you're not making it easy in the first place.... I'll just leave it alone, good luck and hopefully someone else can help you out

 

[misticat]

my bad your right, no where did i put that i wanted to add test. You have helped me out numerous times!

It just sounded like you didnt believe me or something like that...

I AM VERY NEW TO THIS!
all i know is that ox/winny/primo is not that great of a cycle when you are a skinny fuck like me. I was expected more gains. Well im hoping that the sus and test will do it...
the enan is way more sore today than the next day of a primo shot.. is that right??
and it was impossible with a 25g i had to use 23g and it still took forever to draw it out of the vial.

i can take pics of it if you want to see it... im going to have to block my name out... it says i have 5 more refills