hows this for a bulker? PCT help also please

[spankymach1]

I am near the end of my cutter and I want to start to plan out my bulker. Cutter was Tren Ace 100mg EOD with Test Prop 100mg EOD. I am starting Anavar and Masteron for the last 4 weeks. After this I plan on taking 4 weeks off where I will buy and plan out my bulker and then jump right into it. This is what I am thinking what do you guys think.

Sust250 - 250mg EOD
Tren Ace - 100mg EOD
Test Prop - 100mg EOD
Anadrol - 50mg or 100mg ED depending on how my stomach is
for first 4 weeks
EQ - 200mg EOD (maybe not to sure yet)
Arimidex - ????
Nolvadex - ????
Clomid - ????
Proviron - ????

Only reason I have the tren/prop in there is bc I have a lot left over from my cutter so I dont know if I should use it or save it for next cutter. I cant break the two up either, they are already mixed together in a bottle so I either use it mixed or not at all. If its not a good idea for the tren/prop mix, should I buy more tren alone or maybe run deca instead?

I am not sure what I should use for my PCT either and if I should run Arimidex throughout the whole bulk or not. If anyone can lead me in the right direction for the best PCT for this cycle I would be very greatful.

 

[access]

Your going to run PCT and only have 4 weeks break before going back on again? I would advise against that. How long did you run your cutter cycle for? Are you having any bloodwork done?

 

[needtogetaas]

I am near the end of my cutter and I want to start to plan out my bulker. Cutter was trenbolone Ace 100mg EOD with Test testosterone propionate 100mg EOD. I am starting Anavar and Masteron for the last 4 weeks. After this I plan on taking 4 weeks off where I will buy and plan out my bulker and then jump right into it. This is what I am thinking what do you guys think.

Sust250 - 250mg EOD
Tren Ace - 100mg EOD
testosterone propionate - 100mg EOD
Anadrol - 50mg or 100mg ED depending on how my stomach is
for first 4 weeks
Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - - 200mg EOD (maybe not to sure yet)
Arimidex - ????
Nolvadex - ????
Clomid - ????
Proviron - ????

Only reason I have the trenbolone/testosterone propionate in there is bc I have a lot left over from my cutter so I dont know if I should use it or save it for next cutter. I cant break the two up either, they are already mixed together in a bottle so I either use it mixed or not at all. If its not a good idea for the trenbolone/testosterone propionate mix, should I buy more trenbolone alone or maybe run Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - instead?

I am not sure what I should use for my PCT - post cycle therapy - either and if I should run Arimidex throughout the whole bulk or not. If anyone can lead me in the right direction for the best PCT for this cycle I would be very greatful.

thats like the exact same cycle I just got don running bro..I would advice taking some more time off but its a great cycle..I would not run the tren longer then 8 weeks though run the ea 16 weeks and the test just as long..just keep all the ai;s on hand bro till you find you need them

run 500uis hcg ew threw out the hole cycle then use dermacrin sustain and clomid 25mg ed for 4-6 weeks.

 

[SLAYER69!]

you answered one of you questions, save the tren and prop for your next cutter, especially if it worked for you this time. Drop the Eq and add Deca at ~500mg EW.

Simplify, bread and butter bulker

test
deca
drol or dbol

 

[spankymach1]

access - i had blood work done before the cycle and i am planning on getting more blood work done this month. i have been on tren/prop for about 8 weeks so far and when i finish it should be around 12 weeks ending around nov 1st.

how long do you think i should take off? i wanted to start my bulker around early dec.

I am going to sell my tren/test combo and put that money towards my bulker so I at least figured that out.

Slayer691 - you recommend that i use Deca instead of tren? I tried deca before and didnt have great results with it, but the tren i noticed good results from the cutting and i heard it is just as good for a bulker so i am leaning more towards that.

using sust, tren or deca, and anadrol can someone please write me up a good PCT cycle. I hate to ask a newbie type question but when it comes to PCT i am not good at planning that out. i was told to run clomid after the last shot of test and to run arimidex throughout the whole cycle. is this right? should i add nolvadex or proviron to my PCT?

 

[SLAYER69!]

access - i had blood work done before the cycle and i am planning on getting more blood work done this month. i have been on trenbolone/testosterone propionate for about 8 weeks so far and when i finish it should be around 12 weeks ending around nov 1st.

how long do you think i should take off? i wanted to start my bulker around early dec.

I am going to sell my trenbolone/test combo and put that money towards my bulker so I at least figured that out.

Slayer691 - you recommend that i use Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - instead of trenbolone? I tried Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - before and didnt have great results with it, but the trenbolone i noticed good results from the cutting and i heard it is just as good for a bulker so i am leaning more towards that.

using Sustanon, trenbolone or Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - , and anadrol can someone please write me up a good PCT - post cycle therapy - cycle. I hate to ask a newbie type question but when it comes to PCT i am not good at planning that out. i was told to run clomid after the last shot of test and to run arimidex throughout the whole cycle. is this right? should i add nolvadex or proviron to my PCT?

OK, if tren has worked for you stick with it. Certain things just work better for some and not for others

 

[Nelson Montana]

Call me crazy, but you could flip flop those cycles, and just add 1500 cals to the bulker and cut 1500 cals from the cutter and it'll work just fine.

The drug choices and combos are far overrated in terms of any of this. You can cut on dball and bulk on Primmo.

 

[socket]

Crazy, mental cycle.

Some issues:

Time on equals time off
credit on getting pct sorted before cycle
Keep some femara on hand if using tren.

I suggest, back to basics for a bulker. BIG calories, so eat big over the duration, especially the december holidays, and prepare for the new year. cutter early summer.

As I Bulker, i suggest

500mg test/wk 16 wks
400mg deca or 600mg equi. 14 wks
dbol to kick off, first 4 wks 30mg day.
winny at end last 6 wks 50mg day

Mind you, the last bulker i just ran was test 1g/wk, tren 490mg wk, winny 50mg day and mast 100mg day. but after what you have just done, i reckon a solid back to basics regime will be great for you.

 

[access]

access - i had blood work done before the cycle and i am planning on getting more blood work done this month. i have been on trenbolone/testosterone propionate for about 8 weeks so far and when i finish it should be around 12 weeks ending around nov 1st.

how long do you think i should take off? i wanted to start my bulker around early dec.

I am going to sell my trenbolone/test combo and put that money towards my bulker so I at least figured that out.

Slayer691 - you recommend that i use Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - instead of trenbolone? I tried Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - before and didnt have great results with it, but the trenbolone i noticed good results from the cutting and i heard it is just as good for a bulker so i am leaning more towards that.

using Sustanon, trenbolone or Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - , and anadrol can someone please write me up a good PCT - post cycle therapy - cycle. I hate to ask a newbie type question but when it comes to PCT i am not good at planning that out. i was told to run clomid after the last shot of test and to run arimidex throughout the whole cycle. is this right? should i add nolvadex or proviron to my PCT?

See what your blood work comes back like but glad to know your having it done. I personally think bloodwork is essential as it provides a true picture of where your at. If running current cycle for 12 weeks then the tried and true adage is time on = time off but again rely on your bloodwork results to guide you here but at least take 6-8 weeks off would be my recommendation.

I think the sus might be a little overkill here. You could get great results with the tren/prop/eq combo and bump up calories as Nelson mentioned. Kick start with the anadrol for 4 weeks and finish with winny for 6 weeks.

I'm assuming here you did not run arimidex through current cycle and if that is the case then you should be able to get away with it with this new cycle. I would still have on hand in case anything comes up and then you can jump on it quickly to alleviate symptoms. I used to be a proponent of taking this on cycle regardless but have found recently that this is not an absolute and use it as a preventative measure only.

I would agree with Needto also on running HCG at low dose (500-750IU's/week) throughout cycle to keep HPTA in order and make transition into PCT a little easier. PCT would be Nolva at 20mgs/day for 4 weeks (20 days after last shot) and if me I would also run IGF for 4 weeks. Start immediately after last shot of cycle and run the IGF into commencement of nolva.

Did you run T3 through current cycle? I would also run this at 25mcg/day too.

 

[spankymach1]

access - that is a whole lot to swallow in one reading ha. i did not take T3. i was going to but my source wasnt able to get it. I never read up on HCG or IGF yet so i can either ask what they are here or just do a google search.

let me rephrase what you said so i understand it. what you are suggested for my PCT would be to get some arimidex just incase i need it during cycle and to start Nolva 20 days after my last shot and start IGF right after my last shot for 4 weeks running into the Nolva 20 days later and overlap the 2 till IGF is done and continue with Nolva. how much of IGF do i use? x per day or x week?

socket - i am leaning towards the test at 750/wk, tren 600/wk, a-drol 50-100/day for 4 weeks. in comparison i like the tren over the deca. plus my first cycle was sust 500/wk and deca 400/wk and i didnt get that great of results so i prefer the tren over deca. after that i want to do a cutter using tren/prop/anavar/masteron/clen/t3 but that is so far away i will not even worry about for a few months.

Nelson - i agree with you about diet being more important but i dont want to use a short ester test for a bulker which is why i would go for the sust over prop. other than that and adding adrol i am probally just going to add more cals to my diet now and call it a day.

 

[access]

Well see how your thyroid levels are now after running the tren. Is always a good idea to run 12-25mcg T3 while on tren.

You got it right on the nolva and IGF. Run IGF at 30-50MCG bilaterally PWO into muscles worked that session. I typically run it 4 times a week as I workout 4 times a week and for 4 weeks duration. Say I did Bi's I would hit each Bi with 40mcgs for a total of 80mcgs. Next session was legs would hit quads with 50mcgs each side for total of 100mcgs. And so on.

A lot of guys here swear by Demacrine Sustain for PCT to so may be worth looking into. I have not used myself yet but will try when finish this current cycle in combination will Nolva.

 

[spankymach1]

what does IGF do and why should i use it on the worked muscles? i never did bis or chest injections yet so i dont know if i would like them