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Hows this chest routine look

pull over suck they dont do shit
you cannot isolate the upper/outer inner quarter part of your pec..
the pec contracts thats it..

honestly what do you think is going to cause more chest growth increasing your 5 RM by 50 lbs or doing some stupid pullover with a 60 lbs DB in 2 hands??

Lifting is so simple fellas stick with a compund move either flat or slight incline BB presses..you most likely are not at a low enough BF to see you serratus and if you are you need to eat otherwise you will not gain any muscle..let the juiced up Pro's worry about brinign out such a tiny muscle
 
wnt2bBeast said:
pull over suck they dont do shit
you cannot isolate the upper/outer inner quarter part of your pec..
the pec contracts thats it..

honestly what do you think is going to cause more chest growth increasing your 5 RM by 50 lbs or doing some stupid pullover with a 60 lbs DB in 2 hands??

Lifting is so simple fellas stick with a compund move either flat or slight incline BB presses..you most likely are not at a low enough BF to see you serratus and if you are you need to eat otherwise you will not gain any muscle..let the juiced up Pro's worry about brinign out such a tiny muscle

Try doing it with a 60lb dumbell in EACH hand where you lie ACROSS the bench and you arch your back and have someone pushing your hips down, whilst lowering the bells to the floor and telll me that it doesn't blast your lats, pecs, serratus, triceps and abs!

Or you can do it with a 60lb in both hands lying along the bench and using a third the ROM and call it stupid.
 
wnt2bBeast said:
pull over suck they dont do shit
you cannot isolate the upper/outer inner quarter part of your pec..
the pec contracts thats it..

honestly what do you think is going to cause more chest growth increasing your 5 RM by 50 lbs or doing some stupid pullover with a 60 lbs DB in 2 hands??

Lifting is so simple fellas stick with a compund move either flat or slight incline BB presses..you most likely are not at a low enough BF to see you serratus and if you are you need to eat otherwise you will not gain any muscle..let the juiced up Pro's worry about brinign out such a tiny muscle

Ive never been a fan of pullovers.

Flat bench
incline
flyes
dips
Thats it for me and I mix it up sometimes bb sometimes db.
 
To each his own but I am a big fan of pullovers myself. Here's how I do it

Bench
Incline
Dips
Pullover
Some type of flies(I switch up up on what ever I feel at the moment)

And I agree, pullovers shpould be crossbench and Heavy as you can go.
 
musketeer said:
Try doing it with a 60lb dumbell in EACH hand where you lie ACROSS the bench and you arch your back and have someone pushing your hips down, whilst lowering the bells to the floor and telll me that it doesn't blast your lats, pecs, serratus, triceps and abs!

Or you can do it with a 60lb in both hands lying along the bench and using a third the ROM and call it stupid.

thats still only 120lb load try getting your incline BB up to 315 for solid clean reps..that would be a better chest builder

i also dont need to stretch my rotator's inot a position like that..completely pointless
 
wnt2bBeast said:
thats still only 120lb load try getting your incline BB up to 315 for solid clean reps..that would be a better chest builder

i also dont need to stretch my rotator's inot a position like that..completely pointless

Your right, incline press with 315 is much better than pullover with 120 (if you only had to do ONE)

I do incline with 245 (for now)

pullover with 2 x 60 (as it happens)

and dips with +45

ALL in the same week and they are my chest mainstay. I have never considered the pullover as thregtening my RC but as you say it might then I will bear it in mind thanks (genuine when I say it). I really like the HEAVY CROSS bench pullover - otherwise I wouldn't reccomend it.
 
musketeer said:
Your right, incline press with 315 is much better than pullover with 120 (if you only had to do ONE)

I do incline with 245 (for now)

pullover with 2 x 60 (as it happens)

and dips with +45

ALL in the same week and they are my chest mainstay. I have never considered the pullover as thregtening my RC but as you say it might then I will bear it in mind thanks (genuine when I say it). I really like the HEAVY CROSS bench pullover - otherwise I wouldn't reccomend it.

this is my point make it your goal to add 50 lbs to that incline so you wanna be doing 295 for however many reps youre doing with 245..i think that will give anyone solid gainsover say 8-12 months..you can do other stuff but prioritize that youll see growth moreso than increasing your pullovers
 
Here's what I've been doing recently for what it's worth-

Flat BB bench- 1 warmup, 2 working sets
Low Incline DB- 3 working
Low incline fly- 2 working
Decline mach- 2 working
Pec dec- 1 working with 2 drops

I do slow controlled reps with no bouncing or any of that bullshit either. All sets are 6-10 reps except warmup. Get a good pump and all around soreness after
 
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