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How would you guys handle this

Well I saw this thread and had to chime in. First and formost, your "friend" is a little bitch and he should have be done a LONG time ago. As for the girl, I understand where your coming from because you have been with her for so long and you obviously still love her BUT if she does not respect you and your wishes then she is gone, bottom line! It sounds like your being very patient and a real good guy to both of them but patience can only go so far. I am glad you and your girl talked it out and only time will tell where it goes from here. The guy should be completely out of the picture, no question about it.

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Hardrock...


Well he and I lost touch way before he got married to this whore. I know 100% that she basically told him to stop hanging out with me, or else... (Whatever that means) In a situation like ours, no cause was needed, just the fact that she did not like me was enough. That is what I could not believe. I hated the fact that she propositioned me. I did almost feel like ai did something wrong by not flat out telling him, but I will explain that part...moreover. I had already planned and thought about telling my friend many times. I hinted, attempted to breach the subject, but felt like he would break all ties with me then, if he knew his girl propositioned me for sex. Regardless if I was a friend, hated her, and turned her down. he was a mess and completelyinsecure with himself. It was bad. I just wanted to keep the friendship we had going, and was glad we still hung out. At least that is what I thought. Besides the fact, all things considered,... one of the main reasons I did not tell him flat out about the situation w/ her asking me to "fuck" is, in our close group of buddies...(my friend (Brian) already flat out told my friend (Ryan/ guy with girl problem)about being propositioned already for sex by my his (Ryan) so called "girlfriend." This happened on one or more occassions. The guy with the girlfriend/ (Ryan)whore, got weird, angry, and claimed my other friend was making it up, and they got into a few arguements about it. Without a doubt he (Ryan) claimed that his girlfriend was innocent, and this was all made up for some reason....to piss him off. After hearing that,...I just assumed, if he is that stubborn, stupid, and that far gone, he already knew about her fucking around with other guys, (as I was told many times) and was just living in denial. If he wanted to act like that, I thought by telling him,... "What am I in for?" His girlfriend already hates me,...for what reason I never found out. She just did. Ithought that was funny all the time... But I wanted our friendship just to last as long as it could, since I never betrayed my friend, and knew he would never listen to me anyway.


When they broke up for a month before....

he called me literally every other night, or every,...and ASKED ME THE SAME QUESTIONS OVER AND OVER...

I am not kidding....I really think towards the end, he needed some therapy or counseling. "what should I do?" Evry night,...after a while I just told him what he wanted to hear, and repeated what he said he "would do, maybe." Before that I always told him

"Date, (she is)keep busy and if things happen, they happen... "If you are happy, that is what counts." If you guys love eachother you will get back."


It was like talking to a broken record. How many time my other friend (Brian) would call me saying he just got off the phone w/ Ryan (friend w/ girl prob) telling me about what a pain in the ass he was becomming. Saying the same question every night. he just wanted us to tell him over and over to go and wait for her after she was done blowing and fucking every guy, to wait until she had nothung to do but call him back. Funny,...later I found she had sex with her ex before my friend, and was trying to get back with him. Keeping my friend on the burner. He knew this! I was like..."Wow!" But he was really messed up,...went sprinting back to her and all...

His MOM, DAD, Sister, Aunt, Cousin, all love me. To this day, they prolly' ask him about me...

His sister(Ryan) has cought my friend's girlfriend (wife now) many times at clubs sucking face with guys.

Nice.

But, he does not want to hear it.

What happened?

He was one of my best friends, buit I never saw a guy with such a low self esteem problem. It was insane.
 
I have to say though...


Although I am deeply sad about the loss of one of my best buddies. It was not by my doing. Aside from the fact of "me" not telling him his girl asked me "If I wanted to fuck" flat out, and
I declined, It was brought anyway, from the same friend who was sitting next to me in the car when this happened to both of us. Did not do any good, when he told it. Why would I even bother, I thought....? Mistake or not,...I just wanted to salvage the rest of whatever friendship she would allow him to me while it lasted. Maybe I was selfish for that, but I thought it good at the time, since I just wanted to forget it, and save my friend some grief. he already knew she fucked arounf with other guys, and was in denial and dealing with that.... There was no point. Headache even, for him, and me...My friend Ryan knew... What was the point? I did not do any wrong, "I felt." I am pissed off though, a good friend of mine ditched me for absoultely no reason, other that his girl told him to. he basically did not care.
That always hurst, but I am pissed about that and angered a lot about it, and him.

I'm like fuck him now, as before I was really hurt.

I figure he does not care about our friendship, so what am I gonna' do?

Don't need him...

It was his choice. Not mine. But, although angry, still sad, and miss him. I just want to know why after all those years, he just could do something like that.I could never really hate him, we are like brothers, but angry is what I feel sometimes, along with sadness and hurt.
 
Well, last "I heard"...he was a Corrections Officer, here in New Jersey. His cousin (older) got him in. his cousin, who I am also friends with is a police officer. He moved, and lost touch though...If there was any job that was sooooo wrong for a particular person, it was this for this guy (Ryan). For this guy (Ryan) to be a C.O. was a mistake from the beginning. He was a so shy, timid, and completely not the type. Take my word for it. I heard from a buudy who "is" also a C.O. my friend Ryan was termninted from job, while on his "one year probatioinary period." Supposedly he endangered another officer's life by "not reacting to something." So I heard.... I was told by another guy, helater filed an "appeal" to get his job back,...and was told by a D.O.C. review board he was "not mentally compitent to do the job." I don't know what he is doing now for work,...but hope he is well living with that whore. Maybe one day, he will wake up. All I hope reallay for his is that he has a good life. Down deep, I still love the guy like a brother, but the hurt will never go away. I know he is fucked up in the head. I have to consider that....
 
You're a good man. You don't deserve that shit. Drop that sorry ass piece of shit that you call a friend. And as for your girl, that sounds like real trouble to me. I might drop her as well. If you're whipped, good luck. I'd probably never trust her though.
 
I'm sorry, but this bothers me because I think you are a good guy and I don't want to see you get messed up. After further consideration, dump her. It will only get worse. That is, if it went down like I think. The divorce rate is 60%. This is the kind of women that will fuck your world up, I know, I was married to one. If she would do something like that behind your back, wanting to screw around with your friend, she's not the type to stay with.
The same thing happened to me and I blew it off and it came back to haunt me years down the road. End it now, before it's too late. Just do it.
 
I appreciate your advice bro,about the guy,he is not around either of us anymore,its been laid down and he was told,and he knows what happens if he doesnt listen

I truly believe my girl invited us all and that guy took it the wrong way as just a invite to him,and maybe he even made it sound that way to stir up shit,I really cant say,but things with me and her are fine,we had a very long talk last weekend and I laid it all on the line and told her I could walk and not look back if she keeps her bullshit up,and she explained how things went down and I think shes being sincere
 
hardrock said:
I'd set 'em up. If shit happens, ditch 'em both.

never believe that "I don't even find him attractive" shit. My girl once said that to me and a week later we were at the dudes house drinkin and she was flirting with him right in front of me. Kissing him on the cheek and shit. I made her feel like shit afterwards and told her it would never happen again or I would be gone.
Agreed, set them up, then whack them,
 
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