how the hell you know what's working???

[louisiana]

I see people giving praise to a certain product when they are taking 4 different forms of gear. for example i saw this guy brag about he effects of anavar and he was also taking test,and primo. How do you know a certain gear is given you the effects and not the other that you are using???

 

[zedhed]

YEAH...I wanna know this too!

 

[jonnysak]

lol. As a newb i've wondered this aswell. I figured it just comes with experience.

 

[ryno9000]

I'm on the "start simple, keep it simple" belief. Start with one compound your first time - test. Then next cycle try the same test and add in something like dbol (I honestly think Dieslbolan is stronger than dbol, and I am not just riding Needto's nuts). You'll notice a difference. Then next cycle try another combo and so on. Overtime, you'll see what does what. Too much too soon is not good - you don't need 5 things your fist cycle, and then of course if you do use 5 things, where do you go from there? Keep it simple. In life and in steroids.

 

[RADAR]

It comes with experience

 

[chesty]

Kiss

 

[louisiana]

but why use would a person use more than 2 form of steroids at a time. All steroids build muscles, some do it without the water retention. Certain steroids build muscles quickly but add water so people use winny, primo, or anavar to combat the water retention. Or they use them to lessen the estrogen effect of tren,deca or test. Why use 2 steroids that do basically the same thing.

 

[Nelson Montana]

A good reason for noobs to use one at a time. I did.

Even for advanced guys, there's really no reason to use more than 2 at a time. Then if you want to add some boutique stuff, at least you'll know what it's doing.

 

[chesty]

I use two mainly at a time for most of my cycle, then during the last half, depending on what I am wanting to accomplish, I will add in some other stuff. Sometimes I will add a third or fourth at the beginning for a few weeks as a kick start or I will use an oral in the middle like halo for keeping my motivation and such up. But I really prefer halo towards the end most of the time.

 

[ghettostudmuffin]

I've got a handful of cycles under my belt. Mainly test and dbol with a little anavar use.

I know exactly what running 250 or 500mg test by itself does to me. I've never run dbol strictly by itself, but I have ran it up to 25mg with 500mg test and the gains were huge.

I agree on sticking with mainly 2 kinds. I'm at the point as time goes by I'll stick to moderate doses and if I jack anything up it'll likely be the test while keeping the other anabolic moderate in dose.

Something like test+dbol, test+deca, test+eq etc.

Also plan on running some high dose test cycles by itself to see exactly what happens.

I'm glad I started this way rather than doing test+deca+dbol first cycle. I probably would never have realized I don't even need ai on 500mg test alone or that even with 25mg dbol I need minimal ai.

I'm still a newb, but I can see the benefit of really understanding how each compound effects you at different doses and how they synergize with each other FOR YOU.