How responsible is the UAW regarding Ford's situation?

[Dial_tone]

how much in bonuses and stock options has ford (and GM) executives collected in the last few years?

Management ALWAYS takes care of their own FIRST.

How much do their stock options cost the company, you and I?

 

[theoak01]

The unions got you those things.

Please tell me that you're not looking for the government to look out for your rights over a multi billion dollar corporation?

yes they got these things made laws,now that workers rights are protected by LAW unions only work at getting lazy ass workers more money and protecting them from being fired.

ill give an example as i worked security/private investigation at a strike for a steel plant thats an automotive feeder plant.

250 works go on strike,30 replacement workers are brought in, they increase production 240%,the ministry came in and said they never say the plant running so well .

union workers want to go back to work when the union is still telling them to hold out and wait for a deal,however behind the scenes they dont know that the plant told the union to go pound sand and that talks are off because the plant is still making mroe moeny paying our company 290k a week and then paying the other employees, ie scabs,and other workers in a different union to work there.

tell me what good the union is doing for these people?

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

Intransigence kills businesses.

Unions create intransigence, because a CEOs decision has to be improved by line workers. It's idiotic.

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

I don't care. I bought a Jeep

Good for you.

Ford trucks are still the best made and best selling. But I agree on most of the other models, and think that quality control could have at least been better to catch a lot of the problems, and then place blame where it should be. If much of the blame is clearly on the union workers, then have that reflect on whatever settlement they decide on for the layoffs, and if the union tries to sue, well....ideally it should come down to who could afford better lawyers- Ford or the union. I'd be pissed at union workers if they were responsible for putting Ford on the line, and they should be made feel shame to no end by everyone if the company does keel over.

 

[big4life]

The cost of everything will come down, ask people in the rust belt.

Let's see, did these things or services go down in cost?

Healthcare?
Energy/electricity/heating fuel?
Food?


Nope, the only thing that came down was property values, and that's because the tax base was wiped out. They can't afford to provide the community services that they use to without these union jobs/salaries.

 

[rnch]

All of those "benefits" are negotiated by me, myself and I at time of hire. If those benefits are removed and I feel I am unjustly compensated for my work, I walk. Simple as that.

yeh, rite..........keep on walking.

one day you will have to settle for the crumbs offered by the rich fat cats AKA management.

dude.....unles you are uniquely qualified or work in a very high demand specialized job; YOU don't "negotiate" shit in this world.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

yeh, rite..........keep on walking.

one day you will have to settle for the crumbs offered by the rich fat cats AKA management.

dude.....unles you are uniquely qualified or work in a very high demand specialized job; YOU don't "negotiate" shit in this world.

Yes he did.

By obtaining whatever qualifications enable him to be in demand, he did exactly that.

There is no limit to how one can make money in this world.

 

[BrothaBill]

We need to bring back the mafia

 

[big4life]

yes they got these things made laws,now that workers rights are protected by LAW unions only work at getting lazy ass workers more money and protecting them from being fired.

ill give an example as i worked security/private investigation at a strike for a steel plant thats an automotive feeder plant.

250 works go on strike,30 replacement workers are brought in, they increase production 240%,the ministry came in and said they never say the plant running so well .

union workers want to go back to work when the union is still telling them to hold out and wait for a deal,however behind the scenes they dont know that the plant told the union to go pound sand and that talks are off because the plant is still making mroe moeny paying our company 290k a week and then paying the other employees, ie scabs,and other workers in a different union to work there.

tell me what good the union is doing for these people?

So, without making a single change in equipment, 30 people are doing 2 1/2 times the work of 250 people?

I'm going to tell you something so shocking that you might want to sit down before reading it.




Are you sitting down? Good, here it is.


During a labor strike no company in the world is going to say that the strike is hurting them, especially when they try to bring in replacement workers.

I know, it's shocking, isn't it.

 

[BrothaBill]

So, without making a single change in equipment, 30 people are doing 2 1/2 times the work of 250 people?

I'm going to tell you something so shocking that you might want to sit down before reading it.




Are you sitting down? Good, here it is.


During a labor strike no company in the world is going to say that the strike is hurting them, especially when they try to bring in replacement workers.

I know, it's shocking, isn't it.

lmao