Madcow2 said:For nearly 99% of the gym training world, the key to bigger bicepts is in increasing the big lifts like deads, squats, presses, and rows. These drive long term progress and major mass increases. If there was some magic combination or amount of isolation work the noddle arms curling in the mirrors and using the power rack to hold their curl bars would have certainly lucked into it by this point. Direct arm work basically fluffs out and incrementally develops the base one already has. As for increasing the base, that is done with the big lifts, even the ones that seemingly don't involve arms like the squat. Put 100lbs on your squat and dead and 50lbs on your rows and presses - you will find bigger guns.
. He had a better physique than 99% of us...go figure. Obviously he would have done much better if he were not overtraining, but how do you tell a guy who looks like he does, that he's training all wrong?"Bows to master..."Madcow2 said:For nearly 99% of the gym training world, the key to bigger bicepts is in increasing the big lifts like deads, squats, presses, and rows. These drive long term progress and major mass increases. If there was some magic combination or amount of isolation work the noddle arms curling in the mirrors and using the power rack to hold their curl bars would have certainly lucked into it by this point. Direct arm work basically fluffs out and incrementally develops the base one already has. As for increasing the base, that is done with the big lifts, even the ones that seemingly don't involve arms like the squat. Put 100lbs on your squat and dead and 50lbs on your rows and presses - you will find bigger guns.
Madcow2 said:For nearly 99% of the gym training world, the key to bigger bicepts is in increasing the big lifts like deads, squats, presses, and rows. These drive long term progress and major mass increases. If there was some magic combination or amount of isolation work the noddle arms curling in the mirrors and using the power rack to hold their curl bars would have certainly lucked into it by this point. Direct arm work basically fluffs out and incrementally develops the base one already has. As for increasing the base, that is done with the big lifts, even the ones that seemingly don't involve arms like the squat. Put 100lbs on your squat and dead and 50lbs on your rows and presses - you will find bigger guns.
Makavelli said:I agree with this. Too many people go in and try all kinds of stupid arm routines, including curls in the squat rack, but neglect leg and back training.
DJ_UFO said:So many different routines because we all have so many different genetics. You have to experiment on yourself. One of the keys that work for everyone is VARIETY. And just a few people give importance to that. If you do the same routine week after week, you are hitting the same part of the muscle evey week. If you do the same muscle twice a week but with the same routine, you are maybe overtraining the muscle in the same area. But if you train a muscle twice a week with different excercises, you can do one heavy session and the next one heavy again using different excercises and you'll get growth in the whole muscle. With time, that gives you that old skewl wide chests, wide arms, ripped and built back.
Makavelli said:I don't agree with that. I've done the same routine for years. Same exercises, same amount of sets, etc. I make continual progress. The only thing that changes is when I'm on, I'll train each bodypart more frequently and add more sets. Other than that, it's the same. Once you find what works for you, you should stick with it. Look at Ronnie. I don't think you'd find very many people that would make any progress with his routine. He's been doing the same routine since he was 12! Has he made progress? Yeah...![]()
azul said:Lol, what's his routine?
12 months of testosterone?
Makavelli said:I agree with this. Too many people go in and try all kinds of stupid arm routines, including curls in the squat rack, but neglect leg and back training.
toxicsambo said:I saw some clown do the jerry's kid version of curls in the gym yesterday. I don't know wtf was going on. His arms were curling out to the side and up, then made a right turn. It was funny. I was waiting for him to tear a ligament.
You see less and less ppl doing deadlifts of any kind and also basic barbell rows.
satchboogie said:anybody working out one muscle per week is totally shorting gains!
i get 3x workouts per muscle per 2 weeks.
That sounds like way too much to do in one day. Chest/back/legs? Those are 3 major muscle groups. I always thought you shouldn't spend more then an hour in the gym on weight training...toxicsambo said:Exactly. Gotta work hard. I think ppl are confusing the hysteria of overtraining with working out hard. I do
Day..
1:chest/back/legs
2:cardio
3:delts/bi's/tri's
4:cardio
5:repeat
6:repeat
7:nothing.
Never had a problem with joints, gains, yadda, yadda, yadda.
WannaBeBig72 said:That sounds like way too much to do in one day. Chest/back/legs? Those are 3 major muscle groups. I always thought you shouldn't spend more then an hour in the gym on weight training...
WannaBeBig72 said:I always thought you shouldn't spend more then an hour in the gym on weight training...
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