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how much test before ai is necssary

dumbass said:
Thanks for responding with actual information and not the generic responce that everyone is different.


The "Generic Responses" are the best ones in this thread because your question really does depend on the individual. You may like the post from someone who says they can use a couple of grams of test and not get gyno but that is not going to help you in any way. Not trying to sound like an arse but for example i could do 500 mg and get gyno and so can many others. It sounds more like you want to hear a specific response and that will cause more trouble than good. There will be no fooling yourself if you started to develope Gyno. So be safe and at least use a small dose of AI and adjust to how your body is responding.
 
dumbass said:
I am trying to figure out what are some of the upper limits of test you folks run without any AI. I know its going to be different for everyone, so if you dont have personal experience to talk about then go back to knitting.
For those not gyno prone, at say 500-750mg per week, where does estrogen aromatization typically become a problem for you? Or does it become a problem for you at all?


I've seen guys at 200mg/wk who need AI,,,the AI dose will vary with testosterone dose.
 
Caper26 said:
The "Generic Responses" are the best ones in this thread because your question really does depend on the individual. You may like the post from someone who says they can use a couple of grams of test and not get gyno but that is not going to help you in any way. Not trying to sound like an arse but for example i could do 500 mg and get gyno and so can many others. It sounds more like you want to hear a specific response and that will cause more trouble than good. There will be no fooling yourself if you started to develope Gyno. So be safe and at least use a small dose of AI and adjust to how your body is responding.

I am not asking what dose I can run without an AI but thanks for your even less useful infomation then the generic response.
I know what dose I can run without having problems but that doesnt have anything to do with my question. I asked what doses YOU (and not you specifically, but you, as in members of the board who have experience) run without an AI.
 
I am getting worried that every question on this board is starting to get the auto response that would be worthy of a high school kid.
I dont need to know that AI's are used during PCT and I didnt ask if I can run test without an AI. I didnt even ask if anyone SHOULD run test without any estrogen protection. What I asked, and I even included the comment on knitting just for this reason, was what some of you have, or do run, without any AI.
 
dumbass said:
I am getting worried that every question on this board is starting to get the auto response that would be worthy of a high school kid.
I dont need to know that AI's are used during PCT and I didnt ask if I can run test without an AI. I didnt even ask if anyone SHOULD run test without any estrogen protection. What I asked, and I even included the comment on knitting just for this reason, was what some of you have, or do run, without any AI.

Bro take it easy there with the bad attitude...

The "Generic Response" you got is the best answer for your question. If you'd like to stay in this board and make new friends you better work on your attitude.
 
I've run as little as 400mg/wk test and as much as 800mg/wk.... I needed an AI as much for the lowest test dosage as I did for the highest.... I puff up very easily.... Adex did nothing for me... AIFM works decently...Aromasin did the job very nicely.... so even as low as 400mg, I'm pretty sensitive to test bloat.... add deca to the mix and fuhgetaboutit!
 
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